Russell realeased

[Shallow]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d817fd855/Russell-released

I vowed to not say another word about the Raiders until December to address my prediction that they will come in last in their division. Since Russel is no longer a Raider I can talk about him. And I welcome him in Buffalo if they choose to bring him.


Jaydc- I saw that you posted it already but I think it deserves it's own thread.

[Sofa_King_Awesome]

Russell realeased

GOOD!

[westsiderider323]

some say he was more of a bust then ryan leaf their stats seem pretty identical

[theremedy360]

He's been awful, but with all of the natural abilities he showed earlier in his career someone's gonna take a chance on him.

[Jaydc]

some say he was more of a bust then ryan leaf their stats seem pretty identical

The difference is,russel is a number one overall and they wasted 39 million on him.I dont have leafs number off the top of my head but it was less then half of what russell got.

[Shallow]

some say he was more of a bust then ryan leaf their stats seem pretty identical

The difference is,russel is a number one overall and they wasted 39 million on him.I dont have leafs number off the top of my head but it was less then half of what russell got.

Russell deserved every penny. Now I hope he can make a very nice league minimum fighting for a starting job in Buffalo, unless we get Vick.

[OG Hack Wilson]

he never had a chance but ate his way out of the league



some team will be dumb enough to pick him up

[Westcoastin']

some say he was more of a bust then ryan leaf their stats seem pretty identical

The difference is,russel is a number one overall and they wasted 39 million on him.I dont have leafs number off the top of my head but it was less then half of what russell got.

At the time I'm pretty sure Leaf's rookie contract broke the record,  plus he was picked right after Manning, and the team that traded up to grab him gave up a couple first round picks and a couple starters.  It wasnt all his fault tho.. he had injury problems.  Russell is just a fat lazy piece of shit who has been able to scam Oakland outta millions of dollars

[westsiderider323]

some say he was more of a bust then ryan leaf their stats seem pretty identical

The difference is,russel is a number one overall and they wasted 39 million on him.I dont have leafs number off the top of my head but it was less then half of what russell got.

At the time I'm pretty sure Leaf's rookie contract broke the record,  plus he was picked right after Manning, and the team that traded up to grab him gave up a couple first round picks and a couple starters.  It wasnt all his fault tho.. he had injury problems.  Russell is just a fat lazy piece of shit who has been able to scam Oakland outta millions of dollars

wouldve been crazy if the colts got leaf and the raiders got manning

[Shallow]

some say he was more of a bust then ryan leaf their stats seem pretty identical

The difference is,russel is a number one overall and they wasted 39 million on him.I dont have leafs number off the top of my head but it was less then half of what russell got.

At the time I'm pretty sure Leaf's rookie contract broke the record,  plus he was picked right after Manning, and the team that traded up to grab him gave up a couple first round picks and a couple starters.  It wasnt all his fault tho.. he had injury problems.  Russell is just a fat lazy piece of shit who has been able to scam Oakland outta millions of dollars

wouldve been crazy if the colts got leaf and the raiders got manning

You mean Chargers. No way was Peyton gonna fall to the 4th pick that year.

[.:DaYg0sTyLz:.]

some say he was more of a bust then ryan leaf their stats seem pretty identical

ESPN has rated him as a bigger bust. mainly due to his draft position, the amount of money he earned, etc.  Its a toss up between him and Leaf. ESPN radio was mentioning Jamarcus might take it, due to his attitude. Leaf had a BAD attitude, and very immature. But Russell has an "I couldnt care less" type of attitude and no QB taken #1 has ever been cut sooner then him.


And I dont hate the Bills or anything Shallow. But yes, I hope u guys get him too lol. Have fun with THAT. You guys wont regret it like we did...because he wont be your starter and you would only be paying him the league minimum. You guys naturally wont expect shit out of him. So if he turns into anything better then the WORST QB in the league....then he would have exceded your expectations.

[Shallow]

some say he was more of a bust then ryan leaf their stats seem pretty identical

ESPN has rated him as a bigger bust. mainly due to his draft position, the amount of money he earned, etc.  Its a toss up between him and Leaf. ESPN radio was mentioning Jamarcus might take it, due to his attitude. Leaf had a BAD attitude, and very immature. But Russell has an "I couldnt care less" type of attitude and no QB taken #1 has ever been cut sooner then him.


And I dont hate the Bills or anything Shallow. But yes, I hope u guys get him too lol. Have fun with THAT. You guys wont regret it like we did...because he wont be your starter and you would only be paying him the league minimum. You guys naturally wont expect shit out of him. So if he turns into anything better then the WORST QB in the league....then he would have exceded your expectations.

I wouldn't want him for anything other than league minimum and a shot to compete for the starting job. Nothing else.

As for worst draft bust; Jamarcus for the Raiders should be ranked number 1, maybe all time. But even though it should have no effect what he does from here on out will matter in the eyes of the public. Leaf will always be remembered as the guy that was almost taken ahead of Peyton Manning, he sucked, and he retired. If Russel even gets on any team and has 1 winning season as a starter he'll be remembered better than Leaf.

[.:DaYg0sTyLz:.]

some say he was more of a bust then ryan leaf their stats seem pretty identical

ESPN has rated him as a bigger bust. mainly due to his draft position, the amount of money he earned, etc.  Its a toss up between him and Leaf. ESPN radio was mentioning Jamarcus might take it, due to his attitude. Leaf had a BAD attitude, and very immature. But Russell has an "I couldnt care less" type of attitude and no QB taken #1 has ever been cut sooner then him.


And I dont hate the Bills or anything Shallow. But yes, I hope u guys get him too lol. Have fun with THAT. You guys wont regret it like we did...because he wont be your starter and you would only be paying him the league minimum. You guys naturally wont expect shit out of him. So if he turns into anything better then the WORST QB in the league....then he would have exceded your expectations.

I wouldn't want him for anything other than league minimum and a shot to compete for the starting job. Nothing else.

As for worst draft bust; Jamarcus for the Raiders should be ranked number 1, maybe all time. But even though it should have no effect what he does from here on out will matter in the eyes of the public. Leaf will always be remembered as the guy that was almost taken ahead of Peyton Manning, he sucked, and he retired. If Russel even gets on any team and has 1 winning season as a starter he'll be remembered better than Leaf.

thats a big time "if" buddy lol

[Shallow]

some say he was more of a bust then ryan leaf their stats seem pretty identical

ESPN has rated him as a bigger bust. mainly due to his draft position, the amount of money he earned, etc.  Its a toss up between him and Leaf. ESPN radio was mentioning Jamarcus might take it, due to his attitude. Leaf had a BAD attitude, and very immature. But Russell has an "I couldnt care less" type of attitude and no QB taken #1 has ever been cut sooner then him.


And I dont hate the Bills or anything Shallow. But yes, I hope u guys get him too lol. Have fun with THAT. You guys wont regret it like we did...because he wont be your starter and you would only be paying him the league minimum. You guys naturally wont expect shit out of him. So if he turns into anything better then the WORST QB in the league....then he would have exceded your expectations.

I wouldn't want him for anything other than league minimum and a shot to compete for the starting job. Nothing else.

As for worst draft bust; Jamarcus for the Raiders should be ranked number 1, maybe all time. But even though it should have no effect what he does from here on out will matter in the eyes of the public. Leaf will always be remembered as the guy that was almost taken ahead of Peyton Manning, he sucked, and he retired. If Russel even gets on any team and has 1 winning season as a starter he'll be remembered better than Leaf.

thats a big time "if" buddy lol

Ok, but I'm just saying, the book is closed on Leaf. He's retired and done. Russel still has a chance to be remembered better than Leaf. And even then Leaf is such a running gag I don't think anyone will top him on the lists ever, because the more Peyton accomplishes the more Leaf will be remembered. Russel, if he never plays another down, might very well be completely forgotten.

[.:DaYg0sTyLz:.]

some say he was more of a bust then ryan leaf their stats seem pretty identical

ESPN has rated him as a bigger bust. mainly due to his draft position, the amount of money he earned, etc.  Its a toss up between him and Leaf. ESPN radio was mentioning Jamarcus might take it, due to his attitude. Leaf had a BAD attitude, and very immature. But Russell has an "I couldnt care less" type of attitude and no QB taken #1 has ever been cut sooner then him.


And I dont hate the Bills or anything Shallow. But yes, I hope u guys get him too lol. Have fun with THAT. You guys wont regret it like we did...because he wont be your starter and you would only be paying him the league minimum. You guys naturally wont expect shit out of him. So if he turns into anything better then the WORST QB in the league....then he would have exceded your expectations.

I wouldn't want him for anything other than league minimum and a shot to compete for the starting job. Nothing else.

As for worst draft bust; Jamarcus for the Raiders should be ranked number 1, maybe all time. But even though it should have no effect what he does from here on out will matter in the eyes of the public. Leaf will always be remembered as the guy that was almost taken ahead of Peyton Manning, he sucked, and he retired. If Russel even gets on any team and has 1 winning season as a starter he'll be remembered better than Leaf.

thats a big time "if" buddy lol

Ok, but I'm just saying, the book is closed on Leaf. He's retired and done. Russel still has a chance to be remembered better than Leaf. And even then Leaf is such a running gag I don't think anyone will top him on the lists ever, because the more Peyton accomplishes the more Leaf will be remembered. Russel, if he never plays another down, might very well be completely forgotten.

I get what youre saying.  I think for most people tho, the book is pretty much closed on Jamarcus as well....at least as a bonified starter in this league. He will more then likely be picked up by SOMEbody out there as a backup. But if he manages to turn himself into a starting QB anywhere in this league, it will be the biggest turnaround ever for a player in the NFL. Not the kind of odds Id wanna bet on.