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Quote from: GangstaBoogy on May 19, 2010, 10:59:40 AMQuote from: Action! on May 18, 2010, 07:13:47 PMQuote from: midwestryder on May 18, 2010, 12:39:37 PMQuote from: Action! on May 17, 2010, 01:26:32 AMJay Electronica career is about to turn south. How is he going to talk about conspiracy when he's a 5%? Really? The shit they believe? Shouldn't be surprised Basically, five percenters are racists that think white people are devils and the moon is a part of the earth blown apart some odd trillion years ago.it's just another stupid religion no, five percenters are not racists . everlast is white & he is five percenterOh, great, there's one 5 percenter that's white. It means they're not racists. I guess if the KKK has one black man it means not they're not racists either. You do realize that would never happen right?Did you forget about clayton bigsby?
Quote from: Action! on May 18, 2010, 07:13:47 PMQuote from: midwestryder on May 18, 2010, 12:39:37 PMQuote from: Action! on May 17, 2010, 01:26:32 AMJay Electronica career is about to turn south. How is he going to talk about conspiracy when he's a 5%? Really? The shit they believe? Shouldn't be surprised Basically, five percenters are racists that think white people are devils and the moon is a part of the earth blown apart some odd trillion years ago.it's just another stupid religion no, five percenters are not racists . everlast is white & he is five percenterOh, great, there's one 5 percenter that's white. It means they're not racists. I guess if the KKK has one black man it means not they're not racists either. You do realize that would never happen right?
Quote from: midwestryder on May 18, 2010, 12:39:37 PMQuote from: Action! on May 17, 2010, 01:26:32 AMJay Electronica career is about to turn south. How is he going to talk about conspiracy when he's a 5%? Really? The shit they believe? Shouldn't be surprised Basically, five percenters are racists that think white people are devils and the moon is a part of the earth blown apart some odd trillion years ago.it's just another stupid religion no, five percenters are not racists . everlast is white & he is five percenterOh, great, there's one 5 percenter that's white. It means they're not racists. I guess if the KKK has one black man it means not they're not racists either.
Quote from: Action! on May 17, 2010, 01:26:32 AMJay Electronica career is about to turn south. How is he going to talk about conspiracy when he's a 5%? Really? The shit they believe? Shouldn't be surprised Basically, five percenters are racists that think white people are devils and the moon is a part of the earth blown apart some odd trillion years ago.it's just another stupid religion no, five percenters are not racists . everlast is white & he is five percenter
Jay Electronica career is about to turn south. How is he going to talk about conspiracy when he's a 5%? Really? The shit they believe? Shouldn't be surprised Basically, five percenters are racists that think white people are devils and the moon is a part of the earth blown apart some odd trillion years ago.it's just another stupid religion
Quote from: midwestryder on May 18, 2010, 12:39:37 PMQuote from: Action! on May 17, 2010, 01:26:32 AMJay Electronica career is about to turn south. How is he going to talk about conspiracy when he's a 5%? Really? The shit they believe? Shouldn't be surprised Basically, five percenters are racists that think white people are devils and the moon is a part of the earth blown apart some odd trillion years ago.it's just another stupid religion no, five percenters are not racists . everlast is white & he is five percenterOh, great, there's one 5 percenter that's white. It means they're not racists. I guess if the KKK has one black man it means not they're not racists either. Jrome, you be on some other shit. Conspiracy conspiracy all I hear is conspiracy. I have never seen any one like you argue with clear as day facts and precisely laid out information that supports you're argument. The majority of it is conjecture and I'm doing it justice by calling conjecture. I'm open to learning. Provide me reading information, show me the information.
yes, they're so smart they think white people were created 6000 years ago by a black scientist and we're devils. you're right, they're so much smarter than me they believe the moon was blown apart from the earth over 66 triliion years ago by a black scientist who crawled into the earth. blah blah blah5 percenters are no different than scieontologist. they backwards preach who recommend to do one thing but never question the orator.and, i'm positive there's been at least one kkk member that's been black even if it was a mistake. i'll admit it was the best example but it still serves the point. just because 5 percenters have several white people in their groups does not mean their message is not at it's core racists.
Quote from: Jimmy H. on May 18, 2010, 09:59:07 PMQuote from: adamanthraxe on May 17, 2010, 11:04:03 PMIf yall cant see how Jimmy Iovine and Interscope are manipulating the masses and pushing their Great White Hype then you really aint payin attention. I guess rock n roll wasnt enough so they had and go get another Elvis. Theres tons of artists who can spit with the same intensity and lyrical abilities as Em...so why is Interscope stuck on Eminem and not Canibus or Pharoah Monch? Unfortunately the only answer has to be skin color. Or the more appropriate answer could be because Canibus and Pharoah Moch AREN'T signed to Interscope. Skin color is the only answer to people too close-minded to look beyond it. Anyone who actually knew their history when it came to the entertainment industry would see how things have been for over 40 years and wouldn't be surprised. Some might call it "mass manipulation", others might call it capitalism. It's never been strictly about talent in the world of entertainment. You think they put Megan Fox and Jessica Alba in all these movies because they are the best actresses? You think Hulk Hogan sold out wrestling arenas for decades because he was the most talented wrestler? The point I'm making is it's a "business". Talent is good because it brings credibility to your product but record labels and movie studios have never had a problem pushing flash-in-the-pan no-talent crap, whether it was made by a white or a black artist, as long as the money came in. Yes, music executives with millions of dollars have a ridicilous amount of control and influence in this country. I KNOW IT'S SHOCKING! Interscope PUSHING Eminem? Imagine that? A label pushing an artist that is making them millions. Definite conspiracy. I mean did Tupac and Death Row fit into this plan 15 years ago or was that different because people on this board like their music? Did record execs just decide recently that they were going to take over the world through secret societies by brainwashing consumers into buying the music of Eminem, Jay-Z, and Lil Wayne? +1 bro, real talk. Iovine aint the devil, he's a smart as fuck business man
Quote from: adamanthraxe on May 17, 2010, 11:04:03 PMIf yall cant see how Jimmy Iovine and Interscope are manipulating the masses and pushing their Great White Hype then you really aint payin attention. I guess rock n roll wasnt enough so they had and go get another Elvis. Theres tons of artists who can spit with the same intensity and lyrical abilities as Em...so why is Interscope stuck on Eminem and not Canibus or Pharoah Monch? Unfortunately the only answer has to be skin color. Or the more appropriate answer could be because Canibus and Pharoah Moch AREN'T signed to Interscope. Skin color is the only answer to people too close-minded to look beyond it. Anyone who actually knew their history when it came to the entertainment industry would see how things have been for over 40 years and wouldn't be surprised. Some might call it "mass manipulation", others might call it capitalism. It's never been strictly about talent in the world of entertainment. You think they put Megan Fox and Jessica Alba in all these movies because they are the best actresses? You think Hulk Hogan sold out wrestling arenas for decades because he was the most talented wrestler? The point I'm making is it's a "business". Talent is good because it brings credibility to your product but record labels and movie studios have never had a problem pushing flash-in-the-pan no-talent crap, whether it was made by a white or a black artist, as long as the money came in. Yes, music executives with millions of dollars have a ridicilous amount of control and influence in this country. I KNOW IT'S SHOCKING! Interscope PUSHING Eminem? Imagine that? A label pushing an artist that is making them millions. Definite conspiracy. I mean did Tupac and Death Row fit into this plan 15 years ago or was that different because people on this board like their music? Did record execs just decide recently that they were going to take over the world through secret societies by brainwashing consumers into buying the music of Eminem, Jay-Z, and Lil Wayne?
If yall cant see how Jimmy Iovine and Interscope are manipulating the masses and pushing their Great White Hype then you really aint payin attention. I guess rock n roll wasnt enough so they had and go get another Elvis. Theres tons of artists who can spit with the same intensity and lyrical abilities as Em...so why is Interscope stuck on Eminem and not Canibus or Pharoah Monch? Unfortunately the only answer has to be skin color.
Quote from: dubsmith_nz on May 19, 2010, 12:32:29 AMQuote from: Jimmy H. on May 18, 2010, 09:59:07 PMQuote from: adamanthraxe on May 17, 2010, 11:04:03 PMIf yall cant see how Jimmy Iovine and Interscope are manipulating the masses and pushing their Great White Hype then you really aint payin attention. I guess rock n roll wasnt enough so they had and go get another Elvis. Theres tons of artists who can spit with the same intensity and lyrical abilities as Em...so why is Interscope stuck on Eminem and not Canibus or Pharoah Monch? Unfortunately the only answer has to be skin color. Or the more appropriate answer could be because Canibus and Pharoah Moch AREN'T signed to Interscope. Skin color is the only answer to people too close-minded to look beyond it. Anyone who actually knew their history when it came to the entertainment industry would see how things have been for over 40 years and wouldn't be surprised. Some might call it "mass manipulation", others might call it capitalism. It's never been strictly about talent in the world of entertainment. You think they put Megan Fox and Jessica Alba in all these movies because they are the best actresses? You think Hulk Hogan sold out wrestling arenas for decades because he was the most talented wrestler? The point I'm making is it's a "business". Talent is good because it brings credibility to your product but record labels and movie studios have never had a problem pushing flash-in-the-pan no-talent crap, whether it was made by a white or a black artist, as long as the money came in. Yes, music executives with millions of dollars have a ridicilous amount of control and influence in this country. I KNOW IT'S SHOCKING! Interscope PUSHING Eminem? Imagine that? A label pushing an artist that is making them millions. Definite conspiracy. I mean did Tupac and Death Row fit into this plan 15 years ago or was that different because people on this board like their music? Did record execs just decide recently that they were going to take over the world through secret societies by brainwashing consumers into buying the music of Eminem, Jay-Z, and Lil Wayne? +1 bro, real talk. Iovine aint the devil, he's a smart as fuck business manwith too much power
Too much power? He's got a fuck load of money so I'd say any power or influence he holds he has earned. I'm not saying I agree with what he pushes or the decisions he makes, but people needa get off that new world order, racist white devil shit, and realise that anyone with money has power and influence, despite their cultural background.
Quote from: dubsmith_nz on May 20, 2010, 06:49:41 PMToo much power? He's got a fuck load of money so I'd say any power or influence he holds he has earned. I'm not saying I agree with what he pushes or the decisions he makes, but people needa get off that new world order, racist white devil shit, and realise that anyone with money has power and influence, despite their cultural background. But everyone needs someone to blame. And few people really do their research, they just need someone who sounds like they know what they are talking about yelling what they want to hear and it's all good. Thing is even Jimmy don't call every shot.
Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 20, 2010, 01:07:35 AMQuote from: dubsmith_nz on May 19, 2010, 12:32:29 AMQuote from: Jimmy H. on May 18, 2010, 09:59:07 PMQuote from: adamanthraxe on May 17, 2010, 11:04:03 PMIf yall cant see how Jimmy Iovine and Interscope are manipulating the masses and pushing their Great White Hype then you really aint payin attention. I guess rock n roll wasnt enough so they had and go get another Elvis. Theres tons of artists who can spit with the same intensity and lyrical abilities as Em...so why is Interscope stuck on Eminem and not Canibus or Pharoah Monch? Unfortunately the only answer has to be skin color. Or the more appropriate answer could be because Canibus and Pharoah Moch AREN'T signed to Interscope. Skin color is the only answer to people too close-minded to look beyond it. Anyone who actually knew their history when it came to the entertainment industry would see how things have been for over 40 years and wouldn't be surprised. Some might call it "mass manipulation", others might call it capitalism. It's never been strictly about talent in the world of entertainment. You think they put Megan Fox and Jessica Alba in all these movies because they are the best actresses? You think Hulk Hogan sold out wrestling arenas for decades because he was the most talented wrestler? The point I'm making is it's a "business". Talent is good because it brings credibility to your product but record labels and movie studios have never had a problem pushing flash-in-the-pan no-talent crap, whether it was made by a white or a black artist, as long as the money came in. Yes, music executives with millions of dollars have a ridicilous amount of control and influence in this country. I KNOW IT'S SHOCKING! Interscope PUSHING Eminem? Imagine that? A label pushing an artist that is making them millions. Definite conspiracy. I mean did Tupac and Death Row fit into this plan 15 years ago or was that different because people on this board like their music? Did record execs just decide recently that they were going to take over the world through secret societies by brainwashing consumers into buying the music of Eminem, Jay-Z, and Lil Wayne? +1 bro, real talk. Iovine aint the devil, he's a smart as fuck business manwith too much powerToo much power? He's got a fuck load of money so I'd say any power or influence he holds he has earned. I'm not saying I agree with what he pushes or the decisions he makes, but people needa get off that new world order, racist white devil shit, and realise that anyone with money has power and influence, despite their cultural background.
For the most part, there is just some basic ignorance going on with most people here. Jimmy Iovine is a powerful music executive so he must literally have control of everything fucking thing he touches. He could have made Bishop Lamont as big a star as Eminem but he didn't "push" him. He spends millions of dollars on acts that end up getting dropped but that's just because he chooses not to hit the "green light" and make them into superstars or because his secret society of gnomes from the planet Jupiter don't like the content and demand they be dropped.
I agree with what you're saying but I do think there's something to be said about the poor marketing/the lack of faith in new talent at Interscope.