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Quote from: Shallow on June 06, 2010, 02:20:28 PMQuote from: wcsoldier on June 06, 2010, 12:28:54 PMI don't try to argue otherwise , Shaq was the focal point ... I'm just saying that Kobe was not your regular second option ... you won't find many 2nd options who averaged 27 , 5 and 5 on a championship team ... so he deserved more credit for those titles than some of you give him ..I don't think that we would have made it to the Finals these years and if you replace Kobe by let's say Ginobili in his prime .... do you think so ?Maybe not, but with Lebron in his prime and Shaq in his prime I'd guess about 4 straight titles.LMAO...LeBron doesn't have the outide game nor the clutch play to make a LeBron-Shaq duo even HALF as successful as the Kobe-Shaq 1-2 punch of the threepeat era. The inside-outside game was vital. Shaq clogged up the lane, where LeBron scores most his point...do you watch basketball, Shallow? Because you do seem like a knowledgeable person...just that you sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about in this instance, and a lot of the time when you argue against Kobe.
Quote from: wcsoldier on June 06, 2010, 12:28:54 PMI don't try to argue otherwise , Shaq was the focal point ... I'm just saying that Kobe was not your regular second option ... you won't find many 2nd options who averaged 27 , 5 and 5 on a championship team ... so he deserved more credit for those titles than some of you give him ..I don't think that we would have made it to the Finals these years and if you replace Kobe by let's say Ginobili in his prime .... do you think so ?Maybe not, but with Lebron in his prime and Shaq in his prime I'd guess about 4 straight titles.
I don't try to argue otherwise , Shaq was the focal point ... I'm just saying that Kobe was not your regular second option ... you won't find many 2nd options who averaged 27 , 5 and 5 on a championship team ... so he deserved more credit for those titles than some of you give him ..I don't think that we would have made it to the Finals these years and if you replace Kobe by let's say Ginobili in his prime .... do you think so ?
the only players who can compare to MJ in terms of career stats are Wilt and Lebron. and even Lebron is about 4 PPG away from Jordan in his prime (who was about a 32 PPG guy)the only players who can compare in the terms of winning are Bill Russell and Robert Horry lol.
Quote from: Hans Moleman on June 08, 2010, 12:22:59 PMthe only players who can compare to MJ in terms of career stats are Wilt and Lebron. and even Lebron is about 4 PPG away from Jordan in his prime (who was about a 32 PPG guy)the only players who can compare in the terms of winning are Bill Russell and Robert Horry lol.lol at stats, what about in terms of skills, clutch, taking over games, being the finisher, and being the best.its either going to be kobe or mjnone of those old school guys come close to kobe or MJ in terms of being the best player. but MJ didnt even play against a d-wade, lebron james, chris paul, the NBA has much more talent right now than they ever did.lebron doesnt come close, this guys overrated i wouldnt be suprised if he joins the t-mac/grant hill club by the end of the career.
lol at stats, what about in terms of skills, clutch, taking over games, being the finisher, and being the best.
top 20 NBA players ever as of june 2010:Michael JordanLarry BirdMagic JohnsonOscar RobertsonBill RussellWilt ChamberlainHakeem OlajuwanTim DuncanShaq O'NealKareem JabbarKevin GarnettJohn StocktonKarl MaloneKobe BryantIsiaih ThomasPatrick EwingDavid RobinsonElgin BaylorCharles BarkleyLebron James
i would rank Oscar #2 over magic AND larry but most niggas on here would go crazy