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Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 21, 2010, 12:12:24 PMYeah, threadstarter, change your opinion because other people don't like this album. Do you have an opinion to offer or are you just being smart? This would be a boring ass forum if everyone agreed and dickrode every album brought up. I see you comment plenty on things you don't like (ie, Game's leaks from RED). Allow others to do the same, and offer a retort if you feel differently.
Yeah, threadstarter, change your opinion because other people don't like this album.
Quote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on June 21, 2010, 12:46:17 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on June 21, 2010, 12:12:24 PMYeah, threadstarter, change your opinion because other people don't like this album. Do you have an opinion to offer or are you just being smart? This would be a boring ass forum if everyone agreed and dickrode every album brought up. I see you comment plenty on things you don't like (ie, Game's leaks from RED). Allow others to do the same, and offer a retort if you feel differently.Yeah, I do.I think most of you went into this album with the thought "I'm not going to like this album" & therefore went extra critical when reviewing it; after one spin people were throwing up reviews of 4/10; how do you possibly rate an album after one spin?
When most of the hate is "I didn't feel the soul of the album" or "It sounds so forced" that's almost as bad as when you guys who don't Slaughterhouse said "I didn't feel the production".
Yet Drake has Kanye giving him 808 beats with cheap, catchy singing & that's fine.
Judging by the list of albums you think is "better than this" (you're entitled to your opinion), Eminem is clearly not for you; it basically screams against everything those albums are.
Eminem is a huge name, with one of the largest fanbases, with "top of the line production" (big names) & has a thing about it like "Oh, it's Eminem, it's good".Whereas all those albums you named have lesser known production that fits the direction of the album with lesser known names that don't get all the hype & such.I love Strong Arm Steady, but that music is completely different with a different purpose.
The only thing that makes me shake my head is that everytime there is a "Recovery" thread the same names keep popping in & out to give the same exact opinion they gave in the other 10 threads; it's like you want to make a distinct point that you didn't like the album; you didn't like the return of Eminem & are turned off by it's hype.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 21, 2010, 03:43:44 PMQuote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on June 21, 2010, 12:46:17 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on June 21, 2010, 12:12:24 PMYeah, threadstarter, change your opinion because other people don't like this album. Do you have an opinion to offer or are you just being smart? This would be a boring ass forum if everyone agreed and dickrode every album brought up. I see you comment plenty on things you don't like (ie, Game's leaks from RED). Allow others to do the same, and offer a retort if you feel differently.Yeah, I do.I think most of you went into this album with the thought "I'm not going to like this album" & therefore went extra critical when reviewing it; after one spin people were throwing up reviews of 4/10; how do you possibly rate an album after one spin?Actually a lot of people were excited considering he let us know he was dropping the accent. Where are you getting this from? It sounds like something you're just making up to attack anyone who doesn't like it.Well I for one can tell after one spin whether I like an album or not. And now you're assuming that the people with positive reviews listened to it many times before throwing a rating up, and the others didn't. Face it, you're reaching. I always see you attacking the person reviewing, instead of the review itself. Stannish behavior. QuoteWhen most of the hate is "I didn't feel the soul of the album" or "It sounds so forced" that's almost as bad as when you guys who don't Slaughterhouse said "I didn't feel the production".I didn't think anything was wrong with the production. But for those who did, critiquing production is legit. Face it, production is the single most important part of hip hop. And this is coming from a guy who loves lyricists. It's music, if the musical aspect of it doesn't sound good then who would want to listen to it? That said, I liked most of the production on both Recovery and Slaughterhouse.QuoteYet Drake has Kanye giving him 808 beats with cheap, catchy singing & that's fine.It is? From what I remember that album was criticized as well. But I didn't hear you jumping in to defend Drake. I wonder why? Fyi, I haven't even listened to that album. I asked in that thread if it was an album for the bitches and the reply was yes, so I didn't even bother listening.QuoteJudging by the list of albums you think is "better than this" (you're entitled to your opinion), Eminem is clearly not for you; it basically screams against everything those albums are.How would you know what is and isn't for me? I happen to listen to a wide-variety of hip hop. I was listening to dude in 99, now why the fuck would I be even bothering to listen to his music now, 7 albums deep if I didn't like him? It's like the same thing with that Dre track, if they make music that isn't up to par I'm going to critique it. It doesn't take away from their previous accomplishments. QuoteEminem is a huge name, with one of the largest fanbases, with "top of the line production" (big names) & has a thing about it like "Oh, it's Eminem, it's good".Whereas all those albums you named have lesser known production that fits the direction of the album with lesser known names that don't get all the hype & such.I love Strong Arm Steady, but that music is completely different with a different purpose.Yes, they are different. But I was just listing albums that are better, I wasn't aware I had to limit my response to popular music from pissed off crazy white boys. I listen to both underground and mainstream. Underground tends to impress me more, for obvious reasons.QuoteThe only thing that makes me shake my head is that everytime there is a "Recovery" thread the same names keep popping in & out to give the same exact opinion they gave in the other 10 threads; it's like you want to make a distinct point that you didn't like the album; you didn't like the return of Eminem & are turned off by it's hype.Again, what is wrong with giving criticism? There's only two recovery threads and at least people are pointing out what they don't like about the album. You come into these threads attacking any type of criticism, legit or not. What exactly is the point of a forum if not for that? And yet you do the exact same type of criticism when it comes to other rappers like Drake or Game. I mean, you even have Em's album cover as your signature, clearly you are getting offended and feeling like you have to ride for him. It's just music dude, Eminem could care less that you're attacking the people who didn't like the album.
1. So you mean to tell me you were hyped? Out of all the releases this year, you were excited about this? Sure, people were "excited"; face it, people would of been excited if he said there was an accent too lol.
Well if the album drops & 5 posts into the discussion thread there is a review, it's a safe bet he only listened to it once & somebody who posts a review on page 13 LIKELY heard it more than once lol.
2. The Slaughterhouse production was just an example of "false hatred"; there was nothing wrong with the Slaughterhouse production, even if they weren't your favorite beats it CERTAINLY wasn't bad enough to take away from the album.
Some people had a problem with Recovery's production & that's fine, I can understand, people wanted Dre & shit; but my point was the critiques were "The music had no soul", "The music didn't feel real or geniune"; what kind of bullshit critique is that? lmfao. That's just "Well, I really have nothing that bad to say about it, so let me say something nobody can question me on" lol.
3. I didn't defend Drake because the album wasn't good lol. His best songs were on the mixtape he dropped last Summer & I feel he came up with weaker material for the album; but also, my reasons for not liking the album are that for an album based around singing, he doesn't have that great a voice; he can make a catchy hook, but didn't really come through with many; "Bout to get these niggas nervous, PROM NIGHT NIGGA"; just one example of 100 corny punchlines. I can bump some of the album, but it's nothing special; especially for the hype, which is my point here; you did the same thing, saw the hype & attacked it when it did live up to your sky high standards of underground perfection lol.
4. So getting back to point number one with "you being hyped", you mean to tell me after a gradual decline in music from Eminem over the last 11 years, you expected that same "good Eminem"? I doubt it, you went into it thinking, "Ehh, maybe without the accent it'll be better than Relapse, but that isn't saying much" lol.
Also, sure, you listen to a wide variety, but you just said that you prefer Underground Hip Hop; what kind of mainstream album, pushed & directed by a label would meet up to those standards?5. Underground "impresses" me more too, but I'm curious to hear a mainstream project that you liked; not going to lie, you come off as a Hip Hop purest.
6. What do you mean? I'm saying a few people keep saying the same thing, you can make whatever point you want; but why make the same point 30 times for the same piece of work?
I critique Game song by song, I don't generalize & say he's wack all around; I've openly admitted to loving The Documentary & Doctors Advocate, LAX didn't do it for me.
Speaking of critiques, I criticized Eminem after his "Despicable" freestyle saying he's been yelling on a track since his "Forever" feature & people called me a hater, now I show support & I'm a stan? So while we're talking about forums, why is it when I defend someone I'm a "stan" & when I'm critiquing I'm "hating"?
You call me a stan & I rate this album around a 7/10, as did most people who supported it; you look at me like I deemed it a Hip Hop classic; it doesn't have any songs that I would even consider a classic lol.
Is it my fault some of you guys are extremists? I see reviews on here, albums are either 9/10 or 4/10; it's like some of you never heard the term average/good, just "classic" & "awful" lol.
I think its tied with encore for his worst album.
damn u still havent logged off...ur hurting everyone with all this wack shit u drop, it hurts more then getting the swine fluQuote from: Laconic on March 16, 2010, 08:21:33 AMTue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM By: Ice CubeMe and Mack 10 together again? I never say never, but he has the kiss the ring first.Cubegbee:@ Petey: you sound like a broken record, time to grow up.
Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM By: Ice CubeMe and Mack 10 together again? I never say never, but he has the kiss the ring first.Cube
in my opinion the main problem with the album was that he kind of used the same shouting type delivery on basically every song & too many singing hooks anybody agree with this?
Quote from: Eddz on June 21, 2010, 05:22:28 AMI got the album on Friday. I didn't listen to any of the leaks and I have to say the album is FIRE. Everyone is saying there is better albums out this year, like what? I want to know what's better? To be honest I haven't listened to as much music as I did last year. But most of what I have listened to is better than RecoveryFornever - Murs & 9th WonderThe Good Sun - Homeboy SandmanStimulus Package - Freeway and Jake OneIn Search of Stoney Jackson - Strong Arm SteadyRevolutions per Minute - Reflection EternalDistant Relatives - Nas & Damien MarleyAll those records skeet on Recovery. Of course that's my opinion. However I would encourage you to check them out if you haven't already.
I got the album on Friday. I didn't listen to any of the leaks and I have to say the album is FIRE. Everyone is saying there is better albums out this year, like what? I want to know what's better?
em hasnt done enough to secure his level of greatness...he isnt no scarface so IMO the jordan comparison wont and dont work