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Re: Another Detox thread: Derek Jackson on Scott Storch/Under Pressure/Detox
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2010, 03:59:55 PM »
If it ever comes out this might be one of the most generic sounding albums of the decade.

Sad, but if you take what we have heard into concideration: true.

At this point (if Detox even excists) Dre should just scrap it all together and leave this twaddle out of his legacy.
 

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Dre need Scott and Scott needed Dre
well Dre has a lot of keyboard players on board so....

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"Let me tell you this, the first single, 'Under Pressure,' that's not how it sounds. You all got a real misconstrued version of it and that's not how it really sounds. That's how it was in the early stages. [Scott produced it,] but it doesn't sound like that...Somebody leaked the version of what they just did. We cut the record when we first got there. Dre met Jay in Miami. They cut the vocals, kind of a beat up track, nothing really finished and that's what the track you guys got."
blablabla.
finished or not, it's not good enough

I dont really think the keyboard players he's worked with over the last few years have done that well..

So I think they need each other.
i guess we disagree then.

i don't really have a preference for a certain keyboard player, plus Dre is the frontman.

Scott Storch > Mike Elizondo > Mark Batson > Dawaun Parker.

Dawaun is extremely talented, but Dre doesn't give him any chance of showing his own skills, which are more jazzy. He basically works on command for Dre and Dre regularily buys beats from him.

The most allround talented guy is without a doubt Elizondo, but when it comes to the keyboard you have to respect the pianoman.

Definately agree with you there, Elizondo is very talented.
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Re: Another Detox thread: Derek Jackson on Scott Storch/Under Pressure/Detox
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2010, 05:55:59 PM »
I think its pretty obvious scott is the best piano cat dre has had in the last decade and probably the most gifted cat in his studio when he is in there. Elizondo was great too but he is better as backup than being lead musician like scott was when he was in there.

Dre also went through a nice stage during the era when obie dropped his debut album, not for obie but for his instrumentals. He has a strong overall team then but he they all felt dre was fuckin them so they dipped.

Recently its like has dre gone even more quiet than usual so we don't know who dres 'piano' man is but considering scotts been back with dre on detox behind the scenes for a while, its fair to say they both neeeded each other for a push and they make great music together.

 

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Dre need Scott and Scott needed Dre
well Dre has a lot of keyboard players on board so....

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"Let me tell you this, the first single, 'Under Pressure,' that's not how it sounds. You all got a real misconstrued version of it and that's not how it really sounds. That's how it was in the early stages. [Scott produced it,] but it doesn't sound like that...Somebody leaked the version of what they just did. We cut the record when we first got there. Dre met Jay in Miami. They cut the vocals, kind of a beat up track, nothing really finished and that's what the track you guys got."
blablabla.
finished or not, it's not good enough

I dont really think the keyboard players he's worked with over the last few years have done that well..

So I think they need each other.
i guess we disagree then.

i don't really have a preference for a certain keyboard player, plus Dre is the frontman.

Scott Storch > Mike Elizondo > Mark Batson > Dawaun Parker.

Dawaun is extremely talented, but Dre doesn't give him any chance of showing his own skills, which are more jazzy. He basically works on command for Dre and Dre regularily buys beats from him.

The most allround talented guy is without a doubt Elizondo, but when it comes to the keyboard you have to respect the pianoman.


Good to see somebody else with the same view on that whole piano deal..

 

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Re: Another Detox thread: Derek Jackson on Scott Storch/Under Pressure/Detox
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2010, 06:26:05 PM »
I wish Dre would stop pussyfooting around and just get back in the studio with The Glove and Colin Wolfe.  Real talk.
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Re: Another Detox thread: Derek Jackson on Scott Storch/Under Pressure/Detox
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2010, 06:54:52 PM »
I wish Dre would stop pussyfooting around and just get back in the studio with The Glove and Colin Wolfe.  Real talk.

just lock the three of them in a room wit The D.O.C. and we'd have a modern classic in NO time, yeeeeeeeeeah!

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Re: Another Detox thread: Derek Jackson on Scott Storch/Under Pressure/Detox
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2010, 07:17:57 PM »
Dre could tell ay scott work on this while i work on this other album...detox is comin but it has 2 b right...perfectly right
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Re: Another Detox thread: Derek Jackson on Scott Storch/Under Pressure/Detox
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2010, 07:18:09 PM »
That's not how Under Pressure sounds?  Then what the fuck was that wack ass beat I heard in the HP commercial?
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Re: Another Detox thread: Derek Jackson on Scott Storch/Under Pressure/Detox
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2010, 03:10:56 AM »
im fuckin confused cause Dre said he spent about six month on Detox with interview with Vibe but Storch was workin' on it since January. What the fuck does Dre do? just mix?

to be honest, I'm getting the impression that that is the case. Dre mixes other ppls beats, throws produced by Dr. Dre on it, and then calls it a day. I guess he was actually making beats in the 90s, but now.... idk.
he can't just throw his name on there, that's not how it works.
he'd get sued.

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Re: Another Detox thread: Derek Jackson on Scott Storch/Under Pressure/Detox
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2010, 03:29:31 AM »
i say ban these detox threads & no1 in future should be making a thread about detox

Why just not click on them? Just ignore any Detox thread and stop bitching


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Re: Another Detox thread: Derek Jackson on Scott Storch/Under Pressure/Detox
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2010, 04:52:14 AM »
i say ban these detox threads & no1 in future should be making a thread about detox

Why just not click on them? Just ignore any Detox thread and stop bitching



lol because i aint bitching, plus these threads are a waste of time, everyone knows that, scott storch just confuses himself, dre even
 

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Re: Another Detox thread: Derek Jackson on Scott Storch/Under Pressure/Detox
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2010, 02:11:28 PM »
im fuckin confused cause Dre said he spent about six month on Detox with interview with Vibe but Storch was workin' on it since January. What the fuck does Dre do? just mix?

to be honest, I'm getting the impression that that is the case. Dre mixes other ppls beats, throws produced by Dr. Dre on it, and then calls it a day. I guess he was actually making beats in the 90s, but now.... idk.
he can't just throw his name on there, that's not how it works.
he'd get sued.

The guys that he works with are trying to get big by associating their names with him. They aren't going to sue him or say a single bad thing about him for that matter. They are gonna take whatever money he buys the beat for, let him list the beat as produced by Dr. Dre, and then hope other people start buying beats from them due to thie fame Dre helps generate for them.

I mean I don't know that this is happening, but I feel like there is a possibility that it happens with some beats.
 

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Re: Another Detox thread: Derek Jackson on Scott Storch/Under Pressure/Detox
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2010, 09:05:49 PM »
I don't know it all reads kind of iffy to me with people talking about credit. A lot of it is people talking about beats but producing isn't just the guy who makes the instrumental.
 

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Re: Another Detox thread: Derek Jackson on Scott Storch/Under Pressure/Detox
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2010, 10:06:06 AM »
im fuckin confused cause Dre said he spent about six month on Detox with interview with Vibe but Storch was workin' on it since January. What the fuck does Dre do? just mix?

to be honest, I'm getting the impression that that is the case. Dre mixes other ppls beats, throws produced by Dr. Dre on it, and then calls it a day. I guess he was actually making beats in the 90s, but now.... idk.
he can't just throw his name on there, that's not how it works.
he'd get sued.

The guys that he works with are trying to get big by associating their names with him. They aren't going to sue him or say a single bad thing about him for that matter. They are gonna take whatever money he buys the beat for, let him list the beat as produced by Dr. Dre, and then hope other people start buying beats from them due to thie fame Dre helps generate for them.

I mean I don't know that this is happening, but I feel like there is a possibility that it happens with some beats.
well i'm sure Dre has bought beats from others, especially for Detox.

for 'We made you' he bought a beat from someone & changed it (according to the seller)

I don't know it all reads kind of iffy to me with people talking about credit. A lot of it is people talking about beats but producing isn't just the guy who makes the instrumental.
yeah.
someone should make a wiki for producing

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Re: Another Detox thread: Derek Jackson on Scott Storch/Under Pressure/Detox
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2010, 10:15:22 AM »
Dre took we made u from someone else?
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