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Nature and nurture both mold us a human beings. I don't get stuck on percentages when it comes to that sort of thing.
Quote from: S.I.K. on October 22, 2010, 01:20:32 AMNature and nurture both mold us a human beings. I don't get stuck on percentages when it comes to that sort of thing.Hahaha yeah I forgot about that shit. Nobody knows the percentages but to think it's 99.9% environment is insanely stupid and frankly I'm amazed that someone like Ikke would say that. People should check out all the studies they've done on identical twins that were separated at birth and grew up in two very different places. In almost every single case you got them doing almost the same exact thing. Even if they'd never even met and they'd have the same goddamn job. A religious person may find this fact to be demoralizing, but it's a goddamn fact. I've always had my attitude. I was angry and violent the minute I came out that womb, I was kicking and screaming every day. And then my little sister came, a saint, never cried, never did shit and she's never changed lol. What is that? the environment? get the fucc outta here.
Quote from: C-BLUE on October 22, 2010, 02:19:02 AMQuote from: S.I.K. on October 22, 2010, 01:20:32 AMNature and nurture both mold us a human beings. I don't get stuck on percentages when it comes to that sort of thing.Hahaha yeah I forgot about that shit. Nobody knows the percentages but to think it's 99.9% environment is insanely stupid and frankly I'm amazed that someone like Ikke would say that. People should check out all the studies they've done on identical twins that were separated at birth and grew up in two very different places. In almost every single case you got them doing almost the same exact thing. Even if they'd never even met and they'd have the same goddamn job. A religious person may find this fact to be demoralizing, but it's a goddamn fact. I've always had my attitude. I was angry and violent the minute I came out that womb, I was kicking and screaming every day. And then my little sister came, a saint, never cried, never did shit and she's never changed lol. What is that? the environment? get the fucc outta here.I can trace back the origin of big part of my behaviour that's why I believe that.And I used to be the complete opposite that I am now.I should note that I haven't thought about this much.I do realize now that your bodies hormone production will influence the way you develop in a big way.Also, shouldn't christfags support that you are born a certain way seeing how they believe that God plans every thing.
At birth, a baby’s brain contains 100 billion neurons, roughly as many nerve cells as there are stars in the Milky Way. Before birth, the brain produces trillions more neurons and “synapses” (connections between the brain cells) than needed. During the first years of life, the brain undergoes a series of extraordinary changes. Then, through a process that resembles Darwinian competition, the brain eliminates connections that are seldom or never used.
Early stimulation sets the stage for how children will learn and interact with others throughout life. A child’s experiences, good or bad, influence the wiring of his brain and the connection in his nervous system. Loving interactions with caring adults strongly stimulate a child’s brain, causing synapses to grow and existing connections to get stronger. Connections that are used become permanent. If a child receives little stimulation early on, the synapses will not develop, and the brain will make fewer connections.
Recent research on one of the body’s “stress-sensitive” systems shows how very stressful experiences also shape a child’s developing brain. When children are faced with physical or emotional stress or trauma, one of these systems “turns on” by releasing the hormone cortisol.High levels of cortisol can cause brain cells to die and reduces the connections between the cells in certain areas of the brain.
Research studies consistently find that the first three years of life are critical to the emotional and intellectual development of a child. During these early years, 75 percent of brain growth is completed.
Even before your child is born, all the nerve cells he will ever possess have been formed. These nerve cells are like a mass of unconnected electrical wires. From the time your child is born, his brain will constantly strive to connect the wires.
The wiring for sight, for example, is developed during the third and fourth month of life. If the visual system is not stimulated during this time, the ability to form the connections for sight are lost. The same concept is true of intellectual connections in the developing brain.
Until about 8 months of age, many things a child can do will be initiated by his own interest. First, he becomes looker. He shows his curiosity in many ways-interest in your face, in his hands, in feeling his clothing and blankets.
During the period after 8 months and until the age of 2 , every one of the four educational foundations-language, curiosity, intelligence and sociability-is developing.
Mice and rats raised in enriched environments, with toys and playmates, have billions more connections between brain cells and are better learners than mice and rats raised alone in empty cages.
Exposure to violence can hinder a child's ability to learn. Constant exposure to an unpredictable, threatening environment causes the brain to repeatedly activate the brain systems that respond to threat or stress.
Research has shown that infants, since they are perceptive to emotional displays even when only days old, may be affected by the stresses in their environment to such an extent that they are more likely to develop psychiatric conditions and even degenerative mental illnesses. In fact, being subjected to external stress factors has been shown to kill brain cells!
But what about the mental and emotional effects of stress on a baby before it's even born? Before birth, a pregnant mother is her child's total environment. Any stress experienced by the mother is more than likely experienced as an environmental stress by her child.
A pregnant woman’s thoughts have a physical connection to her unborn child. “Everything the pregnant mother feels and thinks is communicated through neurohormones to her unborn child, just as surely as are alcohol and nicotine,” states Dr. Thomas Verny whose books, professional publications, and founding of the Association for Prenatal and Perinatal Psychology and Health (APPPAH) and Journal of Prenatal and Perinatal Psychology and Health, have established him as one of the world’s leading authorities on the effects of prenatal environment on personality development.
A pregnant woman’s thoughts are the precursor for her emotions. And her emotions are the precursor for the neurohormones that Thomas Verny refers to.
There's no getting around facts QT? That's funny coming from you. I believe I'm gonna make you eat them words, but sadly you're still so closed minded it really doesn't matter what people say to you anymore. You know I've had a lot of time in my life to read, a lot of time to think and everything you said here I agree with up to a point. The problem is you're only interested in one factor and seeing how religious you are it doesn't surprise me. The environment is a funny thing and nobody's disputing it's power. They've even shown how music can affect babies that are still in the womb by following their heart rate. I've read all this shit. Nobody's disputing any of this or how the environment can shape a person. If I take you and put you in a certain situation, I could probably make a killer out of you and seeing how weak minded you are and how religion has managed to brainwash your funky ass, I could probably MYSELF mold you like fucking clay. You can control a person's mind through ways by breaking a person's will and this has been done many times. There's ways to do all kinds of things to you. Ways you probably don't wanna know about, ways that simple minded niggas could never comprehend. Put you on the street like a Manchurian fucking candidate. I BELIEVE in the power of the environment because I‘ve seen it at work, growing up around broke ass niggas all my life and being one myself, I know what it is to be a product of the environment. The only difference between me and them is I'm conscious of this fact. This fact that we're still slaves, almost robotic. You're a beautiful case yourself. SO YEAH I believe in this factor, but your personality does not ride on one single factor son. Shit ain't black and white and the older you get that's one thing that becomes clear to you. I guess it depends though because I wasn't brainwashed by the local church. So sadly for you and your bitch ass religion, there's just much more to it than the environment. Yes there's no getting around facts and there's certainly no getting around all those studies they've done on identical twins. All the cases where you got overwhelming similarities, again and again, same jobs, same temperament, same hobbies, same taste in music, clothes, music and very often same type of spouse. Not to say there aren't differences (differences you can easily blame on the environment!), but you can't close your eyes to these other facts. Just like you can't close your eyes and pretend Everest isn't in Nepal. It's there! Ain't a science bitch? lol. And you can't get around this because this is so well documented now. This is a fact and a clear fact that shows that nature plays a HUGE role in molding us. Nobody knows the percentages, but after all the shit I've read about this and having a close friend who's an identical twin I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than 50%. Another thing people need to keep in mind is how these two factors work together. When nature produces a weak minded person with a low IQ, the environment is gonna have a field day and make him even weaker. I know many people who hear this that lose all hope, or they feel threatened, it don't fit in with what they were taught and they refuse to give it any thought. They say they find it demoralizing, but nobody said you can't change nigga. We're THE ONLY ANIMAL on this planet that has the brain to do it. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER and when you become conscious of these facts I just stated, you can grow and then you can change. That's what gives me hope. I'll be more than happy to find these studies for you, since you probably don't know how to use google. You should also read Lawrence Wright's book Twins, one of the best books I've ever read on the subject.You do know what an identical twin is right? They got identical genes and that's why these studies are so important. You think it‘s a coincidence they all show the same results. I‘m gonna absolutely love hearing your reply and read more bullshit from you. I can't wait to respond and tear you to pieces again. Go ahead. Make my day lil nigga.shit you should buyhttp://www.amazon.com/Twins-What-They-Tell-About/dp/0471252204articles you should read and PLEASE read them allhttp://www.associatedcontent.com/article/414665/identical_twins_separated_at_birth.html?cat=49http://lornareiko.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/identical-twins-who-were-separated-at-birth-what-are-they-like/http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15629096http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_20030413/ai_n12863703/?tag=content;col1
There's no getting around facts QT?
Now back on topic about the whole sexuality thing, I always ask people who feel gays choose to be gay this: did you choose to like women? I know there is nothing in this world that could make my pee pee grow with the desire for another man. My life could depend on it and that shit ain't gonna happen. I didn't choose shit, I am just biologically attracted to women. That shit is ingrained in my fucking being.
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