Question for white people

[min0rity]

what i don't understand is 90% of rap records have direct or indirect disses towards whites but its mostly those white fans that buys the records....

[Trauma-san]

It's because everybody is fascinated by danger, death, dark stuff.  So subliminally, to a white kid in the burbs, buying a dirty 'black' cracker-haters' cd is dangerous, and they get a thrill out of it.  

[TOOTHBRUSH]

man we havin deep topics up in dubcc lol...........anyway like i said in the mc ren post i'm have black half white most see me as a black, and i can really say that half the shit we as blacks be complaining about like slavery and shit is bullshit! i mean when i look back at my ancesters it hurts alot to know what they went through but thats no fuckin excuse to say fuck white people we should kill them and shit, i mean shit in reality our worst ghettos in this country the people in em have a better chance of success than most countries, basically if you work your ass off in this country you can make something of your self, it might be harder for some but you can do it.  using white peole as an excuse for not making it is pure bullshit these days!

[M Dogg™]

i dont really care..sometimes find it funny actually...only thing that bothers me is people whining like little bitches about shit that never happened to them and happend generations before them, and trying to make it seem like they have it rough just cause they're another race...or flipping out just cause eminem or another white person says nigga....eventhough its meant in no disrespect....

GENERATIONS AGO!!!!!!!!! Damn

Las generation was the one fighting for civil right, not allowed in resturants and shit. This generation had the Rodey King beatings, and police practicing Racial Profiling. Generations Ago, shit is still happing today. It started with slavery, and it continues. Generations ago, the past affects the presents. In slavery, mastrs would sell the fathers of children, so when slavers were freed, men did not know how to be men, for they had no dad to learn from, and therefore, they would leave their families in fear, a problem that still exist today. In Africa, leaving your family is look really down apon, so they didn't learn it there. But after 300 hundred years of slavery, it becomes a learned trait, that many blacks are trying to reverse. Generation ago! Muthaphukka, generations ago, whites killed Native Americans, and generations later, they ain't comeback. A man blows up a black church 35 years ago, and he never comes to justice, as blacks are told to forget about it as it happened years ago. Is that justice. This was this year. Native are fighting to be allow to have casinos so they can support themselves after years of being poor, and dying. This is this generation, just hidden behind the surface The media ain't telling you shit. Generation's ago, whites came to my valley, now San Bernardino California, and took it away from the Native's here, my tribe. Now out of thousands of people, only 2 families exist. What happened generations ago, still effects today. We have a generation now that our parents say no problems exist, yet they see it, and though hip-hop it's expressed. White's are not an excuse, it's just they need to be educated that in ths country we have problems. I never ask anyone to help me, and my family, for we can only help ourselves. But people should know. Peace

[EM28]

i agree wit some of this shit.  I like black people and i like black people.  But its true why are black people complainin today if it doesn't even affect them.  I mean they are livin in freedom these days.  True it happened generations ago.  But you've also got to see it from black point of view.  that is if your not black.  So i can't really say wheter they are right or wrong.  They have a good reason to complain tho.  I don't know, lol.

peace

[LyRiCaL_G]

good post, i agree with wat ya sayin

[HBKid_Jr]

i agree that minoritys have a right to complain about how they r still opressed 2day,  b/c no matter how hard u wanna try an say opression dont exist it does exist so i dont blame blacks when shit like that happens.  but they should stop bitching about when the white man looks at em weird cuz they do the same shit to the white man.  also its time to stop using slavery as a crutch.  none of any of our realatives alive have owned or been slaves or n an maybe a few of us here have a relative that knew some1 that was a slaver owner or a slave.  but than again this is comin from a naive white boy that dont kno any better

[Jome]

MC Ren & Ras Kass - 2 of my favorite artists, and they both have racist remarks in 0.3% of their lyrics..(Aimed at white people)
Do I care? Not really, but if 0.3% turned into 3%, I would probably would find something else to listen to.
If it really WAS 3%, they would probably sell 3K units, instead of 30K.
And that's probably why most people don't care - they're nobodys to the mass public.
Now, if 2Pac or Jay-Z had these kinda lyrics, there would be hella lot more noise about it.

Another thing - black people sees upon themselves as one people, brothership etc.
E.G. a white/brown/yellow dude offend a black guy - you upset the whole black community.
Turned around - a black guy offending a white guy, the regular white guy wouldn't care, he'd probably say: "Yeah so what, we are a few hundred million white people on earth".

So if MC Ren, Ras Kass or Dead Prez says "cracker" in the U.S. - why should I care, or get upset??
They never seen me in their whole life, and probably won't.

[smerlus]

i agree black people have had it rough in the past but the people rapping now weren't born in the 50's and 60's, they weren't born into slavery or none of that shit, and some of them act like ALL white people were against them. like in everything there's bad and good people, they got Klu Klux Klan and they got white people fighting for black rights.

honestly though, jewish people have had it the worst, if you believe in the bible, they were slaves back then, WW2 almost seen them get taken off this earth and still you don't see any JET or Jewish entertainment Television. the don't make songs saying they want to kill fucking germans and this and that. they got one of the best countries in the world and they started from nothing.

the reasons why black people feel segregated today is because they do it to themselves. they have clothes that are supposed to be just for blacks, music that's supposed to be just for blacks, TV, radio stations (here in buffalo we got WBLK) people would have a fit if there was WHTY. W.E.T. and shit like that.

[M Dogg™]

I actually think Native Americans had it worst. They didn't try to kill off Natives, they did kill off Natives. 2/3 of the population is gone, never t comeback, and the rest that are here are in poverty, and using casinos to get money. They tried to kill the Jews, they did kill the Natives.

And black people weren't born into the 50's, but their parents were. Most were born into the 80's that your talking about, lets see what has happened since then... Rodney King, Riots, O.J. and resentment white people felt because he go off, when black men where not killing white women around the nation, but white cops where beating black men, it's not the black communities fault for O.J., I still hear whites complain. Also, the continuation of racial profiling, and intercities still get shitty education and intercity minorities can't keep up with raising standards, the cut of school funding threaten by President George Bush. It's rooted from their parents fight in the 50' and 60's, and even the 70's, and in the 80's it never went away, so after being silenced for a decade, the 90's exploded, and no one even did shit to resolve the problem, and until people reconize their is a problem, people will stll complain.

[Instant_Killa]

I actually think Native Americans had it worst. They didn't try to kill off Natives, they did kill off Natives. 2/3 of the population is gone, never t comeback, and the rest that are here are in poverty, and using casinos to get money. They tried to kill the Jews, they did kill the Natives.

And black people weren't born into the 50's, but their parents were. Most were born into the 80's that your talking about, lets see what has happened since then... Rodney King, Riots, O.J. and resentment white people felt because he go off, when black men where not killing white women around the nation, but white cops where beating black men, it's not the black communities fault for O.J., I still hear whites complain. Also, the continuation of racial profiling, and intercities still get shitty education and intercity minorities can't keep up with raising standards, the cut of school funding threaten by President George Bush. It's rooted from their parents fight in the 50' and 60's, and even the 70's, and in the 80's it never went away, so after being silenced for a decade, the 90's exploded, and no one even did shit to resolve the problem, and until people reconize their is a problem, people will stll complain.

word, that shit is 100% true

[eNgIeS]

If you get offended by racist comments in rap, why listen. I listened to rap for many years, and I've neve been offended. Half the shit they say, coming from a minority point of view, makes sense. On this board, it seems that if a white person talks some stupit shit about race, 3/4 the board agrees, and they don't want to listen. A minority talks, and everyone argues and shit. Well I want to say this. You get offended by rap music, turn it off. They are making a point coming from a black point of view in the United States, and it must be true because as a Mexican/Native American who grew up poor and under the system, I see what they are saying. Remember, people don't say contraveral stuff unless they mean it, because record labels don't want to lose money. I think instead of being offended, that maybe you should try to understand. And if not, don't buy the CD, exchange it, and get something that will be kinder to your ears. The world is a very tuff, and real place, and lots of bad shit happends, even in the United States. People are expressing themselves after 300 years of slavery, and 140 years of opression, in which a whole community was reshaped. As I said, you can't take it, don't buy, so why complain?

So because white people, who are probably not related to me, did some awful crimes & racism (I hate all racists, including the black ones), that makes me accountable just because of my skin colour? So if you're great great great grand uncle did some ungodly crime like murder or rape 100 or more years before you were born, that means you must be guilty of your distant relatives crimes? Thats what you are saying!. I have nothing against any race, heck i'm a white Australian & most of my friends are indian, sri lanken & asian (dont say why arent u friends with aboriginals because theres none in my parts, & not many in my state) & some of them act more Australian than me.

& Finally if a white person said on a record "go to a black neighborhood & shoot em up" & "I'm sick of them niggers (they say crackers in there songs, so whats the difference) crying racism for everything bad that happens to them", i'll tell you to fuck off because "english is our form of expression you dont like dont use it or listen to it"

[eNgIeS]

Racism is NEVER right. It doesn't matter from which side it comes (if u want to call it "side"), rather a white human talks shit like that or a black human! IT IS NEVER RIGHT. So for some ppl there might be a point to complain about.

I am white, I do listen to bands like Dead Prez, who have got some racist lyrics no doubt. But most of their reasons to be angry at white ppl are no bullshit, so I try to understand their anger... Plus, Rap lyrics are mostly exaggerated, no doubt! No u better don't trip...

If a white boy walks through a black neighbourhood he gets looked at strange. So how can blacks complain when the same happens.

You see Dead Prez etc dissing white folk because of history etc but that has no relevance to them. Maybe the black man is Seriously jelous of the white man.

I myself have no problem pulling Black women or White, is that a reason to make records with Hatred to my race?

Hmm...

i agree black people have had it rough in the past but the people rapping now weren't born in the 50's and 60's, they weren't born into slavery or none of that shit, and some of them act like ALL white people were against them. like in everything there's bad and good people, they got Klu Klux Klan and they got white people fighting for black rights.

honestly though, jewish people have had it the worst, if you believe in the bible, they were slaves back then, WW2 almost seen them get taken off this earth and still you don't see any JET or Jewish entertainment Television. the don't make songs saying they want to kill fucking germans and this and that. they got one of the best countries in the world and they started from nothing.

the reasons why black people feel segregated today is because they do it to themselves. they have clothes that are supposed to be just for blacks, music that's supposed to be just for blacks, TV, radio stations (here in buffalo we got WBLK) people would have a fit if there was WHTY. W.E.T. and shit like that.

These words above are as good as gospel!

[ILL-Logic-AL]

They tried to kill the Jews, they did kill the Natives.

Tried to kill the Jews?

What, are you fuckin retarded?

[Snoop_da_BOSS]

If you get offended by racist comments in rap, why listen. I listened to rap for many years, and I've neve been offended. Half the shit they say, coming from a minority point of view, makes sense. On this board, it seems that if a white person talks some stupit shit about race, 3/4 the board agrees, and they don't want to listen. A minority talks, and everyone argues and shit. Well I want to say this. You get offended by rap music, turn it off. They are making a point coming from a black point of view in the United States, and it must be true because as a Mexican/Native American who grew up poor and under the system, I see what they are saying. Remember, people don't say contraveral stuff unless they mean it, because record labels don't want to lose money. I think instead of being offended, that maybe you should try to understand. And if not, don't buy the CD, exchange it, and get something that will be kinder to your ears. The world is a very tuff, and real place, and lots of bad shit happends, even in the United States. People are expressing themselves after 300 years of slavery, and 140 years of opression, in which a whole community was reshaped. As I said, you can't take it, don't buy, so why complain?

hey, dawg, wat I would suggest iz 2 care only bout wat makes sence... if wat they say in rap iz real, keep it real, if they r dissin white ppl, only cause, their favourite color iz pink, and they r allergic 2 white- fuck it!!!! I only care if they r dissin white ppl, if they have no reason 2 do dat... u feel me? and if I hear somethin like dat, I do exactly wat u said, I turn dat shit OFF!!!! and one more, dissin any1 cuz of tha color of their skin, iz da fuckin RASIZM, no matter wat u say!!! u got it? and, by tha way, ur post is stupid, like, probably, U, cause u dont even know wat u r talkin bout... fuck it!!!

Chuuch!!!