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From a narrative point of view, I don't really know where they're going to go with it. I have faith that they'll come up with something, but the rumors about the movie featuring Dr. Hugo Strange actually made a little more sense to me. Because the "Prey" storyline dealt with Hugo Strange assisting the Gotham Police Department track down a fugitive Batman (which was pretty much the situation that Batman was left in at the end of "The Dark Knight.") There are already rumors that, despite using Bane as the villain rather than Hugo Strange, they still may be using elements of the "Prey" storyline. Of course you have to take any rumors about this movie with a grain of salt though. This casting announcement pretty well illustrates how wrong most of the early rumors about this movie have been.
Quote from: JohnnyL on January 20, 2011, 07:18:44 AM From a narrative point of view, I don't really know where they're going to go with it. I have faith that they'll come up with something, but the rumors about the movie featuring Dr. Hugo Strange actually made a little more sense to me. Because the "Prey" storyline dealt with Hugo Strange assisting the Gotham Police Department track down a fugitive Batman (which was pretty much the situation that Batman was left in at the end of "The Dark Knight.") There are already rumors that, despite using Bane as the villain rather than Hugo Strange, they still may be using elements of the "Prey" storyline. Of course you have to take any rumors about this movie with a grain of salt though. This casting announcement pretty well illustrates how wrong most of the early rumors about this movie have been.I still expect it to be better than any non-Batman superhero film this decade, I'm just not excited about it like I was the Dark Knight because of how the Dark Knight ended, as opposed to how Begins ended, (which I still wasn't blown away by but at least excited to see the Joker and Nolan's take on it so that Burton's take could be wiped away from mainstream culture). There's nothing about the Catwoman or Bane characters that make me say "oh man I can't wait to see Nolan's take on them" and I can't fathom there being a groundbreaking way to tackle the Bat-fugitive storyline.Nolan said he treated each film as it's own story and didn't plan ahead for a trilogy. I think if he did he would have saved the return of Ducard for this film. He'd be the ideal character in this franchise to be the one that works with Gotham to track and capture Batman.
Christian Bale Talks Dark Knight RisesIt's his farewell to the Bat...probablySource: Exclusive This may not come as a huge surprise but it does come straight from the horse's mouth: Christian Bale, talking to Empire last month, said that The Dark Knight Rises will be his last Batman movie...probably."All I know is the likelihood that this will be the last one," says the star. "Well, I wouldn't say definitely. If Chris goes, 'Hey, I've got another story I think could be interesting,' then yeah, great, I'd go do that. I always assumed it would be three, but I could be wrong. I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but I don't feel any pressure."Nolan's on record as saying that the next film will be the last chapter in his Batman franchise, so we're going to assume that's it, but hey! It's nice that Bale isn't locking anything out. It's clear throughout our interview that he and Christopher Nolan continue to enjoy a great relationship, and also that Bale's looking forward to the new members of the gang."[Tom Hardy] seems like he's balls-out, doesn't he? Like he really goes for it.He looked like a guy that was happy to go to extremes, to really push it. Looks like he could go the distance..."For the full interview, which includes a whole lot on The Fighter - including an explanation why, despite featuring famed hotheads Bale and director David O.Russell, everything was calm on set, and which role it is that Bale really wants to play (it's not obvious!) - pick up the latest issue of Empire, which is on sale now. You know you want it.
But my question is, what if Nolan doesn't return but another really good director does the next one. For instance, what if Daren Aronofsky were to do the next one, or David Fincher? Wouldn't he want to at least keep the option on the table. I could see passing on a fourth if they replaced Christopher Nolan with a hack. I would hope though, that he will at least wait and see what happens.
Quote from: JohnnyL on January 21, 2011, 09:40:26 AMBut my question is, what if Nolan doesn't return but another really good director does the next one. For instance, what if Daren Aronofsky were to do the next one, or David Fincher? Wouldn't he want to at least keep the option on the table. I could see passing on a fourth if they replaced Christopher Nolan with a hack. I would hope though, that he will at least wait and see what happens.I think this will depend on how well this new Spiderman film does next year. Spiderman came out in 02 and made a killing, then Spidey 2 comes out and does more. With Spidey 3 the sales don't do as well (but still good) and Raimi leaves, so for the ten year mark of the first film Marvel sets out a complete revamp; new director and lead actor. And of course new tone for the film.If Arnofsky or Fincher want in on Batman they won't want to pick up where Nolan left off and will want to bring their own vision to the franchise. Now if it was me, I'd want my own Bruce Wayne and not Nolan's guy. Bale's a great actor but Bruce and Batman can be played well by a lot of actors (famous or unknown) and I'm sure Darren and whoever else would want one for their own. So if the new Spidey does well then DC has a reason to say we don't need you Christian and won't bother trying to get him back, but if the focus groups say "why is this guy Spiderman?" and the movie does poorly then they'll beg him to come back. And by the time the next Batman after this one is set to be released itll be at least 2015, which is 10 years from Begins.
I think this will depend on how well this new Spiderman film does next year. Spiderman came out in 02 and made a killing, then Spidey 2 comes out and does more. With Spidey 3 the sales don't do as well (but still good)
Going a bit offtopic here, I wanted to say that the recent decisions that were made from the powers that be to reboot certain stories (Spider-Man and most notably, Hulk (for the second time ) have been not so well thought out imo.I can see why they wanted to to a new Spider-Man story, but with Hulk?Everything was falling into place with the whole Avengers storyline but that's been discussed here before, so I'll leave it at thatAlso, with Aronofsky being mentioned, it's nice to see that he's directing the new Wolverine movie (if imdb is to be trusted).From what I could gather the Origins story would be treated like it didn't exist (not sure though) and Hugh Jackman is still on board, which could mean very intriguing results
Quote from: Shallow on January 21, 2011, 08:10:49 PMI think this will depend on how well this new Spiderman film does next year. Spiderman came out in 02 and made a killing, then Spidey 2 comes out and does more. With Spidey 3 the sales don't do as well (but still good)Spiderman 3 sold more than the previous two
You're probably right, but man, I hate that they're constantly rebooting everything, now. I'm even beginning to hate the word "reboot." lol That's not to say I wouldn't give a different director's take on the material, a chance if it looked interesting. But personally, I would rather a different director do their own storyline, but not start the franchise over. I understand that studios are going to look at these things largely from a financial standpoint. So from that perspective, maybe it makes sense to them to start things over just to keep the property fresh for the audience. Personally though, I find it frustrating that you get so far with a continuous storyline in a movie franchise, and then you have to start all the way over. That's one thing that irks me about this newest Spider-man movie. With the first series of Batman movies, it made sense to reboot the franchise because enough damage had been done to the property that they really couldn't continue on from "Batman and Robin" and hope to make money. Also, by then a considerable amount of time had passed (eight years, I believe) where Warner Bros. had left Batman alone. This new "Spider-man" though seems to be part of an increasing trend in Hollywood to use "rebooting" as a crutch for any bump in the road the a film series encounters, rather than just being creative and fixing the problems.
When Nolan and Bale leave, I would NOT reboot the franchise, I'd build off it. They did a great job of building a great story of young Bruce Wayne. I'd hire someone to play an older Bruce Wayne, someone who needs a Robin to help him, and someone who in the comics is looking to build a sense of family, even through his own twisted Batman world. Start with Robin in part 4, you can bring back Two-Face, and have Dick Grayson help Batman as an older Batman is not cutting it. Part 5 can start with the Dick Grayson split and turn to Nightwight, move to a different city and forge his own identity. Since you have a new Batman, why not a new Joker and bring in Jason Todd's Robin to be killed by the Joker. This would solidify Joker as Batman's main villain and continue their story. Maybe even get Batgirl in there as Barbara Gordon and have her suffer the fate of getting paralyzed by Joker as well. Part 6 can deal with Tim Drake becoming Robin, and how he helps Batman capture the Joker.You don't have to do a reboot, just have Batman move eras. If they get the right director and actor for Batman, they should be able to do another trilogy of older Batman. Hell, maybe a 3 trilogy with Bruce Wayne's death and Dick Grayson coming back to claim the cowl. I forgot you need to have Bruce Wayne's love story with Talia al Ghul. So much to do with Batman for another trilogy, Warner Brothers be thinking ahead.