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Quote from: da chronic on February 03, 2011, 08:14:55 AMNot to mention that Dre is now over 40, how sick is that ?How old are you, son?
Not to mention that Dre is now over 40, how sick is that ?
Quote from: SheraZ on February 01, 2011, 11:30:50 AMQuote from: repthatwest on February 01, 2011, 11:14:35 AManyone else think they took inspiration from doctors advocate, to the point where thet could be straight jackin it?i think they took inspiration from T.I castle walls, or airplanes with b.o.b, or any other HipHop/RnB joint on the radio.. peaceexcept none of those songs have any comparable subject, soo
Quote from: repthatwest on February 01, 2011, 11:14:35 AManyone else think they took inspiration from doctors advocate, to the point where thet could be straight jackin it?i think they took inspiration from T.I castle walls, or airplanes with b.o.b, or any other HipHop/RnB joint on the radio.. peace
anyone else think they took inspiration from doctors advocate, to the point where thet could be straight jackin it?
I think it's fair to say that people are only checking for this song because it's got two Eminem verses and a female hook in the same vein as 'Love The Way You Lie'. Dr. Dre's name comes secondary to that, but I doubt he cares anyway, as long as it is doing well (which it evidently is).I suppose the money men over at Interscope really do dictate what comes out and what doesn't. These days, if it's not a sure-fire hit that will cater to the masses, then it's doubtful that a song will get released as a single.It's not that it's that bad of a song to be honest, just not what I imagined a Dr. Dre song in 2011 to sound like. Still, Dre has to move with the times like everyone else I suppose, if he wants Detox to be successful. I'm happy for him that it's no.1 in the download charts, hopefully that will spur him on a bit more.
I suppose the money men over at Interscope really do dictate what comes out and what doesn't. These days, if it's not a sure-fire hit that will cater to the masses, then it's doubtful that a song will get released as a single.
Quote from: dnjp4life on February 04, 2011, 01:44:15 AMI think it's fair to say that people are only checking for this song because it's got two Eminem verses and a female hook in the same vein as 'Love The Way You Lie'. Dr. Dre's name comes secondary to that, but I doubt he cares anyway, as long as it is doing well (which it evidently is).I suppose the money men over at Interscope really do dictate what comes out and what doesn't. These days, if it's not a sure-fire hit that will cater to the masses, then it's doubtful that a song will get released as a single.It's not that it's that bad of a song to be honest, just not what I imagined a Dr. Dre song in 2011 to sound like. Still, Dre has to move with the times like everyone else I suppose, if he wants Detox to be successful. I'm happy for him that it's no.1 in the download charts, hopefully that will spur him on a bit more.yeah but like i said before, i really doubt they demanded to have someone else produce the single.they must have faith in him as a producer, otherwise the joint venture with interscope wouldn't have taken off in the first place.dre's insecurity is the main reason Detox gets delayed over and over.perhaps jimmy or someone else advised him to jump on the success of Eminem's single.
Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on February 04, 2011, 03:03:49 AMQuote from: dnjp4life on February 04, 2011, 01:44:15 AMI think it's fair to say that people are only checking for this song because it's got two Eminem verses and a female hook in the same vein as 'Love The Way You Lie'. Dr. Dre's name comes secondary to that, but I doubt he cares anyway, as long as it is doing well (which it evidently is).I suppose the money men over at Interscope really do dictate what comes out and what doesn't. These days, if it's not a sure-fire hit that will cater to the masses, then it's doubtful that a song will get released as a single.It's not that it's that bad of a song to be honest, just not what I imagined a Dr. Dre song in 2011 to sound like. Still, Dre has to move with the times like everyone else I suppose, if he wants Detox to be successful. I'm happy for him that it's no.1 in the download charts, hopefully that will spur him on a bit more.yeah but like i said before, i really doubt they demanded to have someone else produce the single.they must have faith in him as a producer, otherwise the joint venture with interscope wouldn't have taken off in the first place.dre's insecurity is the main reason Detox gets delayed over and over.perhaps jimmy or someone else advised him to jump on the success of Eminem's single.I think the bad reception to Under Pressure really reinforced Dre's insecurity. He really thought he had the perfect single with Jay-z on it as well but the feedback was so negative.
Quote from: HighEyeCue on February 04, 2011, 08:25:30 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on February 04, 2011, 03:03:49 AMQuote from: dnjp4life on February 04, 2011, 01:44:15 AMI think it's fair to say that people are only checking for this song because it's got two Eminem verses and a female hook in the same vein as 'Love The Way You Lie'. Dr. Dre's name comes secondary to that, but I doubt he cares anyway, as long as it is doing well (which it evidently is).I suppose the money men over at Interscope really do dictate what comes out and what doesn't. These days, if it's not a sure-fire hit that will cater to the masses, then it's doubtful that a song will get released as a single.It's not that it's that bad of a song to be honest, just not what I imagined a Dr. Dre song in 2011 to sound like. Still, Dre has to move with the times like everyone else I suppose, if he wants Detox to be successful. I'm happy for him that it's no.1 in the download charts, hopefully that will spur him on a bit more.yeah but like i said before, i really doubt they demanded to have someone else produce the single.they must have faith in him as a producer, otherwise the joint venture with interscope wouldn't have taken off in the first place.dre's insecurity is the main reason Detox gets delayed over and over.perhaps jimmy or someone else advised him to jump on the success of Eminem's single.I think the bad reception to Under Pressure really reinforced Dre's insecurity. He really thought he had the perfect single with Jay-z on it as well but the feedback was so negative.I don't think the leak of Under Pressure had anything to do with Dre. It was incomplete, the mix sounded terrible, and it didn't even have a hook. Of course it was going to get a bad reception. The official leaks..Kush, and INAD, were completed and just needed mastering. Sadly, I think that with a good hook and another verse, Under Pressure could have been the better of the three.
The thing is as well, is that right now with Detox, it's not just about making money, it's making money BACK that's already been spent:Dre sits in the studio all day, and someone has to pay the wages of the engineers, the sessions musicians, and for using the studio if it's a top studio...They also have to pay to keep people on like his co-producers and they paid people like Bishop Lamont, etc to be signed to the label (not loads of money, but it all adds up)...Dre has bought beats from other producers for Detox, that's more money, and I assume people he's brought into to ghostwrite, Jay-Z, TI, whoever, gotpaid for those sessions.And that's over a long time now, even if you start at a year ago if that's when he started the 'proper' Detox sessions, it's still a lot of money over a lot of time.Plus they shot a video for Kush - that's all the crew's wages, the editor, the director, extras, and then artwork, not to mention publicity and marketing all this stuff...The money is either all coming from Dre's pocket (which I highly doubt, but even more reason for him to want to make it back in that case)...Or Interscope and Jimmy have been funding the whole thing, which is the most likely scenario, in which case they'll be very keen to make it back, and they'll want at least one absolutely sure-fire single to get it kicked off and make it appeal to a big audience.
Where did those Jimmy Iovine conspiracy theories begin?
I reckon this is what happened...Jimmy and marketing over at Interscope said to Dre, "make sure you have a single, make something we can sell easily..."And Dre was like, mmm, ok, I'll make a dancey number and have Akon on it and make it sound like the rest of the Detox tracks, but a little more obviously commercial,and he's like, "Here you go guys, I did the single! It's called Kush" ...And then Jimmy & Co were like, "wellll... ok, we'll try that as well, but just in case that doesn't really light the world on fire, then how about you just drop a little verse on the end of this Eminem track he did for you..."