Dr. Dre production questions?

[Will_B]

And Daz talks a gang of shit at times! Love it! I saw a recent vid of him, and he claimed to have written all the skits on the The Chronic too.

[Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation)]

Exactly..
Daz, Snoop, Kurupt & RBX got paid in royalties for various
"Doggystle" work durin the yrs, cuz they were always credited on ASCAP..

now, the money that was given to Daz previously last yr --
theres no sense in payin 100 stacks (alot of fuckin money for an independent company) to a dude, if
dude already caked up in cent-generatin durin the yrs - unless he did deserve more of it

the Suge Knight-situation is non-essential.
as long as ur tied to a record wit ur name on ASCAP n a publishing-company, ur entitled to money out of the bucket
Daz said "fuck Suge Knight" for yrs - stilll caked up like a muffucca for his work on "ambitonz az a ridah" and "2 of amerikaz"..

[Will_B]

Exactly..
Daz, Snoop, Kurupt & RBX got paid in royalties for various
"Doggystle" work durin the yrs, cuz they were always credited on ASCAP..

now, the money that was given to Daz previously last yr --
theres no sense in payin 100 stacks (alot of fuckin money for an independent company) to a dude, if
dude already caked up in cent-generatin durin the yrs - unless he did deserve more of it

the Suge Knight-situation is non-essential.
as long as ur tied to a record wit ur name on ASCAP n a publishing-company, ur entitled to money out of the bucket
Daz said "fuck Suge Knight" for yrs - stilll caked up like a muffucca for his work on "ambitonz az a ridah" and "2 of amerikaz"..

What if it was Daz's regular royalties for all his shit @ Death Row from 98 to now?

Perhaps they never paid him after he left.

[Dre-Day]

Exactly..
Daz, Snoop, Kurupt & RBX got paid in royalties for various
"Doggystle" work durin the yrs, cuz they were always credited on ASCAP..

now, the money that was given to Daz previously last yr --
theres no sense in payin 100 stacks (alot of fuckin money for an independent company) to a dude, if
dude already caked up in cent-generatin durin the yrs - unless he did deserve more of it

the Suge Knight-situation is non-essential.
as long as ur tied to a record wit ur name on ASCAP n a publishing-company, ur entitled to money out of the bucket
Daz said "fuck Suge Knight" for yrs - stilll caked up like a muffucca for his work on "ambitonz az a ridah" and "2 of amerikaz"..

What if it was Daz's regular royalties for all his shit @ Death Row from 98 to now?

Perhaps they never paid him after he left.

im quite sure that's it.

wideawake confirmed that a lot of artists & producers weren't fairly compensated & wanted to fix it.

[Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation)]

Exactly..
Daz, Snoop, Kurupt & RBX got paid in royalties for various
"Doggystle" work durin the yrs, cuz they were always credited on ASCAP..

now, the money that was given to Daz previously last yr --
theres no sense in payin 100 stacks (alot of fuckin money for an independent company) to a dude, if
dude already caked up in cent-generatin durin the yrs - unless he did deserve more of it

the Suge Knight-situation is non-essential.
as long as ur tied to a record wit ur name on ASCAP n a publishing-company, ur entitled to money out of the bucket
Daz said "fuck Suge Knight" for yrs - stilll caked up like a muffucca for his work on "ambitonz az a ridah" and "2 of amerikaz"..

What if it was Daz's regular royalties for all his shit @ Death Row from 98 to now?

Perhaps they never paid him after he left.

Daz was always credited wit his name as a writer on some "Doggysytle"-records
(wether it was prod or lyrics, dunno) -  but hes name was there.
if ur name is tied to a song, ur entitled
juristicially to a piece of the cake, that the song is generatin.
but u need to have a publishing-company too,
n i think "Suge Publishing" was the only company credited on ASCAP at the time.

but thing is, after u register a publishin-company (Snoop wit "My Own Chit Music" etc etc) -
ur entitled to paper from old songs that u were credited for as a writer.
not 110% sure how it works tho.
 

guess whatever reason for the sudden lottery-payment to Daz Dillinger, is unknown.
but why the payment was made specifically to Daz n not the other artists, is interestin
(further implies the "reasons" of the money-check). After all, Snoop wasnt registered wit a
company at the time neither, so why wasnt he compensated for the records of his own album, by WideAwake?
cuz he's a millionare already, & dont "deserve" it as much? nah, doesnt make sense

however,
its safe to say that Daz did produce those 2 records (at least) wit the article-confirmation, & after
adding the other confimrations to the gumbo-pot

[Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation)]

if the info is incorrect, the writer cant assume and visualize his assumptions in media as "real". law says it cant..
u cant assume stuff as a writer, and showcase stuff/beliefs as mere facts.
thats why everybody is so scared of lawsuits..

You must not read many interviews. It happens all the time. 90% of the time writer bias fucks with the actual truth of any article. Don't you remember all those articles that confused Bishop Lamont with Slim the Mobster on "It Could Have Been You"? What about all these news stories that have Dr. Dre was a producer on Kush when he isn't on the official single? One rumor happens and all of a sudden all these article writers are saying it like its fact. You can't take anything for granted.

Basically anything that's not a quote in an article is something that the writer is saying. That's just simple interpretation, my man.

im familiar wit the lawsuit-parnaoia that dropped like a
bomb on the media-world in the early 00's
since then,
if somethin is just assumption or belief,
it is always indicated in that specific article, that it is "gossip"/"rumour"

media is liable to lean on
"truth", when they make statements
if the Dr. Dre-song "kush" was showcased as a Dre-production at the time,
when the news broke out about it,
it was most likely premiered as a "fact" to that journalist.
jounralist cant assume stuff, n then present/indicate that as "facts".
(plus, i think all established/professional websites didnt even say
antyhin about the production-credit
for "Kush",
just a few fanmade-sites. what site r u talkn bout?)

that was 1 exmple tho,
n u said 90 percent now, really?
extremely desilusioned way of lookin at things IMO
media is 'posed to serve as a reflection of documented tuth,
tahts why ppl are relyin on media.
theres that old sayin, "dont believe everythin u read in the news"
i cant understand that to an extent, but it doesnt work like that anymore.
media are responsible for the etched-in-stone journalism,
thats why they stepped their game up - n are more serious
(mainly cuz of the lawsuit-paranoia)

but judgin by ur comprehension,
its reasonable to brush everythin off as lies/rumours or assumptions by journalists?
ok, cool
ill keep that in mind, next time i watch the news

[Jimmy H.]

however,
its safe to say that Daz did produce those 2 records (at least) wit the article-confirmation, & after
adding the other confimrations to the gumbo-pot

I don't agree. Confirmation is confirmation. Adding up five stories doesn't equal confirmation to me. If you have one solid one that CONFIRMS it, that's all it takes. Snoop says out of his own mouth that Dre produced those records and Daz worked on them. He also said D.O.C. helped coach him on "G-Thang" without arguing for D.O.C. to be a producer on that record. Nobody has ever argued that Dre made everything on Chronic and Doggystyle from conception to final mix. When you have a studio full of talented people, everyone is going to contribute on a lot of ends but Dre more than likely decided what stayed and what went so that makes that man the producer.

Daz Dillinger and Emanuel Dean both contributed productino-wise and/or instruments to "Doggysytle".

The Emmanuel Dean interview that I saw never once eluded to the idea that Dean PRODUCED any of those records, only that he played certain instruments for Dre and wasn't given the proper credit for it. In fact, if you watch the DPG Eulogy interview, Emmanuel Dean says, "He (Dre) DEFINITELY made the beat". Dean never once discredits Dre as being the producer of the music or accusses him of stealing credit from him. In the interview, he calls Dre "one of the most talented people in the world" and says he (Dre) never denied him (Dean) credit for what he did but that he didn't receive the necessary compensation or publishing from Death Row at the time. The story often gets mislabeled as "Dre stole Emmanuel Dean's beats and claim them as his own" when the actual story that Emmanuel Dean is telling in that interview is that "He played the music and didn’t get the credit.” That is nowhere near the same thing as saying he produced the song with Dre but Dre took all the credit. For instance if you look at Thriller as a comparative example, Emmanuel Dean wouldn’t be the “Quincy Jones” role in those songs. He’d be Rod Temperton or Michael Boddicker. He’s not mad because Dre is credited as the producer. He never disputes this. He’s mad because instead of a credit that says “keyboards by Emmanuel Dean”, which would have entitled him to royalties and a platinum plaque on the wall, he got “Special Thanks – Porkchop”.

[Dre-Day]

Dre produced Doggystyle, i think it's pointless to question that.

[Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation)]

cool story, bro..
thing is,
the argument was who did the beats for those songs,
not produced/orchestrated/conducted the songs.
guess ur confused, when i said "produced" -
a beat is a main key of any podction, hence "poduced by Daz".

u said that confimration is confirmation, right?   
we have confirmation, the XXL (or Vibe)-article was just the cream of the crop.
Snoop already confirmed that Daz did the beats - hence,
he contributed in production, hence produced (or additionaly produced,
co-produced - whatever cup of tea u prefer)..
hard to understand the tone of the argument in this thread?
or do i have to break it down, like "Daz contributed
production-wise" in every sentence of my posts?

like u said "confirmation is confirmation", and we have taht.
ur beating around the bush, all the time tho

The Emmanuel Dean interview that I saw never once eluded to the
idea that Dean PRODUCED any of those records, only that he played certain instruments

again, heres my quote:
"Daz Dillinger and Emanuel Dean both contributed productino-wise and/or
instruments to "Doggysytle"
i never said that Dean produced/conducted/orchestrated the "Gin & juice" SONG, but he did
play the keyboards on there,
and added an important musical skeleteon (keyboards, one of the
main rythms, "dan-dan-daan-dan-dan-daaa") - production
hence, "Daz Dillinger and Emanuel Dean both contributed productino-wise and/or
instruments to "Doggysytle"
in Daz' case, he even made the beats (as confirmed by Snoop Dogg) - thats production. hence,
produced by Daz
feel like ur jumpin on to things, n imagining that im takin Dre's part out-of-context
when i say "produced by such & such".
im not
He’s mad because instead of a
credit that says “keyboards by Emmanuel Dean”, which would have
entitled him to royalties

never knew dude was mad, but -
nah, ur not entitled to royalties if u play keyboards, unless u get credited
music-writing (translation: production) for that..
--------
"Porkchop"
 

[Stan]

Anyone know about INAD video? 

[doublee313]

Ok to simplify things.... I Doublee make a beat and throw some keyboards in it.  I pass it on to you, and you clean it up, make it sound better, and it's a 2 million dollar hit!  Are you putting Produced by: You? I just get a check from you for the beat and basic layout of the song?  Am I entitled to a payout per album/single sold?

It sounds like Daz made the basics to a lot of the songs, but didn't finalize them.  That's why Daz's beats now sound ok, but they could be stepped up a bit if Dre or Scott Strorch, Mike Dean touched them up.

Am I correct?

Also, the guy asking about the D.O.C article.  Check out:


http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=263361.0

He's saying he didn't get a $$$ for any of his work through out his career with Deathrow and Aftermath.  That's hard to believe.