uk gun laws changed.

[Don Seer]

'not a knee jerk reaction' my arse

they just made the minimum sentance for illegal possession of a firearm 5 years.

[Jay ay Beee]

Good fucking news

Getting too much like the US

[Joachim]

Its about time, its just a shame 2 young girls had to get capped to make the law 'n order crack down on the bastards.

[King Tech Quadafi]

has gun violence been on a rise in Britain?

[Don Seer]

not alarmingly. its just that like Joachim said 2 girls got shot on NYE and now they do something. that explains my sarcasm in the original post about it being knee jerk. there are incidents every so often.

[CharlieBrown]

I think its appalling how every legislation these days seems to be knee jerk just to get public support, yet there solutions only ever work in the short term (if that) and are not made for the long run. They also don't announce any ways to combat the actual problem at its root (the threat of longer sentences won't deter most gang members) instead they just blame rap and garage for gloryfying it which is going to alienate these people who already feel alienated and outcast enough as it is.

[min0rity]

in korea you can't even own a fucking gun...shotgun is okay though..

[Kaidy]

has gun violence been on a rise in Britain?

It sure has, and over the past 2 years I think it has grown alarmingly. Used to be one shooting was a big media event because it was so rare. But now there's so much Black-On-Black inner city gun violence, its largely ignored unless innocents are killed such as the New Years Eve incident.

But yea as usual the government are handling the problem terribly. And of course they're putting the message out that garage and rap music (read: urban music) are primary causes of violence. I wonder if they ever entertained the notion that music is the effect of society's problems, not the cause of it.

Anyway I predict more racial profiling by the police looking to get those big 5 year sentences so the government can look like it cares.

[Don Jacob]

in korea you can't even own a fucking gun...shotgun is okay though..

a firearm is a firearm isn't it?

[Don Seer]

^ yes sort of.. but pistols cant be used well for game hunting.

they changed more today.. they did a spectacular u-turn on that 5 years thing yest lol.

today they're tightening up lots of things like replica weaponry and 'game gun laws'

[min0rity]

in korea you can't even own a fucking gun...shotgun is okay though..

a firearm is a firearm isn't it?

yeah i don't understand either....firearm should be a firearm..just like in the u.s. you have to register to own a handgun but to own a shotty you just have to  fill out a form or something..not too sure but i do know its more lenient than trying to own a handgun

[Trauma-san]

Duh! LOL how would you expect it to be? What is the purpose of a shotgun? It can be used to legally hunt, or to illegally kill.  What is the purpose of a pistol? It can be used to illegally kill.  See the difference?  Surely yall can understand that.  

[Woodrow]

Could somebody tell me the story behind the laws getting changed? Im clueless.

[Don Seer]

here ya go...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2621311.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2625511.stm

this search gives the most results

http://newssearch.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/results.pl?tab=news&meta=&start=10&q=girls+gun+Birmingham&scope=newsukfs



as far as i can tell from what i've seen on the news is that there is a road which is a 'turf line' there is a hairdressers where they were holding a party. they walked out and got caught up in a fight between the gangs who were using  semi-automatics i 4 girls were hit, 2 died.

[Jay ay Beee]

Er yeah, on New Years Day (the early hours of Jan 2nd) in Birmingham where me and Lyrical G live, 4 girls got shot leaving a party and two of them died.

So now everyone's worried about guns, loads of knee jerk suggestions come in, government ministers blame Jay Z and So Solid Crew etc.