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Quote from: Russell Bell on April 09, 2011, 03:24:57 PMReally? More than FDR, Washington, Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, etc. ? No, I dont think so. (also: more "doing" DOES NOT = good, regardless of whether you support big or smaller govt).As for only whites not liking Obama, there is absolutely no truth to that and that represents a divisive and racist view of our country. You don't have to be a "minority" to dislike big govt.Also, saying that because we are an industrialized country means we have to have big govt makes no sense. This is the same type of view that the "crazy white folks" who llive in the mountains and dont want any govt to exist have, just the exact opposite and just as stupid.Its not that whites don't like Obama. Without whites voting for him, he wouldn't have become president. But if you're longing for GEORGE BUSH...chances are you're longing for a White male president.
Really? More than FDR, Washington, Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, etc. ? No, I dont think so. (also: more "doing" DOES NOT = good, regardless of whether you support big or smaller govt).As for only whites not liking Obama, there is absolutely no truth to that and that represents a divisive and racist view of our country. You don't have to be a "minority" to dislike big govt.Also, saying that because we are an industrialized country means we have to have big govt makes no sense. This is the same type of view that the "crazy white folks" who llive in the mountains and dont want any govt to exist have, just the exact opposite and just as stupid.
Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 09, 2011, 01:13:52 PMQuote from: Rondo Power on April 09, 2011, 11:03:52 AMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 09, 2011, 10:33:05 AMQuote from: Rondo Power on April 09, 2011, 09:55:17 AMObama makes America miss BushNobody MISSES Bush. Some people MISS having a White male president. More often than not, White males. And usually White males who have more teeth than brain cells. Which is tough when your missing 8 teeth...but hey...why does race have to be brought into this?all politicians are dicks, regardless of raceIf they are all dicks, why you miss the one before Obama? Especially considering we are still recovering from the last one. Especially considering the last one was the worst president in the history of the US lolif you looked it up you'd find that Obama has spent more in his his first term than Bush did in both of his
Quote from: Rondo Power on April 09, 2011, 11:03:52 AMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 09, 2011, 10:33:05 AMQuote from: Rondo Power on April 09, 2011, 09:55:17 AMObama makes America miss BushNobody MISSES Bush. Some people MISS having a White male president. More often than not, White males. And usually White males who have more teeth than brain cells. Which is tough when your missing 8 teeth...but hey...why does race have to be brought into this?all politicians are dicks, regardless of raceIf they are all dicks, why you miss the one before Obama? Especially considering we are still recovering from the last one. Especially considering the last one was the worst president in the history of the US lol
Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 09, 2011, 10:33:05 AMQuote from: Rondo Power on April 09, 2011, 09:55:17 AMObama makes America miss BushNobody MISSES Bush. Some people MISS having a White male president. More often than not, White males. And usually White males who have more teeth than brain cells. Which is tough when your missing 8 teeth...but hey...why does race have to be brought into this?all politicians are dicks, regardless of race
Quote from: Rondo Power on April 09, 2011, 09:55:17 AMObama makes America miss BushNobody MISSES Bush. Some people MISS having a White male president. More often than not, White males. And usually White males who have more teeth than brain cells. Which is tough when your missing 8 teeth...but hey...
Obama makes America miss Bush
Quote from: Rondo Power on April 09, 2011, 04:15:25 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 09, 2011, 01:13:52 PMQuote from: Rondo Power on April 09, 2011, 11:03:52 AMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 09, 2011, 10:33:05 AMQuote from: Rondo Power on April 09, 2011, 09:55:17 AMObama makes America miss BushNobody MISSES Bush. Some people MISS having a White male president. More often than not, White males. And usually White males who have more teeth than brain cells. Which is tough when your missing 8 teeth...but hey...why does race have to be brought into this?all politicians are dicks, regardless of raceIf they are all dicks, why you miss the one before Obama? Especially considering we are still recovering from the last one. Especially considering the last one was the worst president in the history of the US lolif you looked it up you'd find that Obama has spent more in his his first term than Bush did in both of hisTrue but obama supporters would just come back and say "well that was bc of bush, etc", which is partly true but a misleading statement since to put it nicely the jury is still out on the stimulus and how effective it was (no one made a rule spending a gazillion dollars to get us out of a trillion dollar hole was the definitive answer). Theyd also probably say that without massive govt spending we couldnt run a fair country that bridges the gap between rich and poor but what thy would fail to realize is that if we keep spending and borrowing to maintain so called needed programs and china calls our debt in it could kill our dollar and make things go from bad to terrible for everyone
You can say the more the government does, the more they fuck up. Another could say the more fucked up Americans are, the more the government has to do.
Not to mention, the party that wants less government...also wants prayer in school. I hate to break it to you, but they arent talking about Islam.
It's possible Obama might end up spending more than Bush, but I think it would be more fair if you showed a chart of Bush's first two years in office versus Obama's first two years in office, rather than a projection of the worst case scenario for Obama's future spending
Quote from: Russell Bell on April 09, 2011, 04:19:53 PMQuote from: Rondo Power on April 09, 2011, 04:15:25 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 09, 2011, 01:13:52 PMQuote from: Rondo Power on April 09, 2011, 11:03:52 AMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 09, 2011, 10:33:05 AMQuote from: Rondo Power on April 09, 2011, 09:55:17 AMObama makes America miss BushNobody MISSES Bush. Some people MISS having a White male president. More often than not, White males. And usually White males who have more teeth than brain cells. Which is tough when your missing 8 teeth...but hey...why does race have to be brought into this?all politicians are dicks, regardless of raceIf they are all dicks, why you miss the one before Obama? Especially considering we are still recovering from the last one. Especially considering the last one was the worst president in the history of the US lolif you looked it up you'd find that Obama has spent more in his his first term than Bush did in both of hisTrue but obama supporters would just come back and say "well that was bc of bush, etc", which is partly true but a misleading statement since to put it nicely the jury is still out on the stimulus and how effective it was (no one made a rule spending a gazillion dollars to get us out of a trillion dollar hole was the definitive answer). Theyd also probably say that without massive govt spending we couldnt run a fair country that bridges the gap between rich and poor but what thy would fail to realize is that if we keep spending and borrowing to maintain so called needed programs and china calls our debt in it could kill our dollar and make things go from bad to terrible for everyoneit's funny to watch people sugarcoat Obama OR Bush's failures by blaming it on the other.
Quote from: Rondo Power on April 09, 2011, 06:49:20 PMQuote from: Russell Bell on April 09, 2011, 04:19:53 PMQuote from: Rondo Power on April 09, 2011, 04:15:25 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 09, 2011, 01:13:52 PMQuote from: Rondo Power on April 09, 2011, 11:03:52 AMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 09, 2011, 10:33:05 AMQuote from: Rondo Power on April 09, 2011, 09:55:17 AMObama makes America miss BushNobody MISSES Bush. Some people MISS having a White male president. More often than not, White males. And usually White males who have more teeth than brain cells. Which is tough when your missing 8 teeth...but hey...why does race have to be brought into this?all politicians are dicks, regardless of raceIf they are all dicks, why you miss the one before Obama? Especially considering we are still recovering from the last one. Especially considering the last one was the worst president in the history of the US lolif you looked it up you'd find that Obama has spent more in his his first term than Bush did in both of hisTrue but obama supporters would just come back and say "well that was bc of bush, etc", which is partly true but a misleading statement since to put it nicely the jury is still out on the stimulus and how effective it was (no one made a rule spending a gazillion dollars to get us out of a trillion dollar hole was the definitive answer). Theyd also probably say that without massive govt spending we couldnt run a fair country that bridges the gap between rich and poor but what thy would fail to realize is that if we keep spending and borrowing to maintain so called needed programs and china calls our debt in it could kill our dollar and make things go from bad to terrible for everyoneit's funny to watch people sugarcoat Obama OR Bush's failures by blaming it on the other. It really is. It speaks to the amount of misunderstanding and ignorance among the people nowadays, who blindly follow a political party or a guy cause he happens to be black. It was a fashion statement to say you liked Obama, and I get the feeling that for a lot of his "supporters", thats as deep as it gets. I can say from being on a college campus when that election was going on, most people sporting obama shirts and whatnot that I had interaction with didn't know what would amount to a hill of shit about politics, but they did know they hated Bush and Republicans were evil. Lol. Same with many Bush supporters, just opposite side of the room.
Well, it's not surprising at all that a President has mainstream appeal.
Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on April 09, 2011, 11:43:16 PMIt's possible Obama might end up spending more than Bush, but I think it would be more fair if you showed a chart of Bush's first two years in office versus Obama's first two years in office, rather than a projection of the worst case scenario for Obama's future spending