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Any West Coast Hooksters?
« on: May 12, 2011, 11:13:50 AM »
Now that the Greatest Hookster of all time in the game has passed on (R.I.P. Nate Dogg), are there any good assist guys for rap choruses on the West coast?  I know Ray J's out there, and he always does his thing, but who else besides him?  Michael Marshall ("5 on it") is pretty good but he doesn't do a whole lot these days.  TQ and Jon B. used to be huge back in the day.  Charlie Wilson is a hit or miss type guy, but not on the level of a Ray J.  Even though he's a rapper, I actually think Knoc'Turnal sounds real dope on hooks (he should take that to the banks and start doing more of it).  Who else is there really out there in the West and is there anyone coming up or are West artists going to have to keep going to Trey Songz, T-Pain, and Akon?
 

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Re: Any West Coast Hooksters?
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2011, 11:16:37 AM »
You can't go wrong with Butch Cassidy.
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Re: Any West Coast Hooksters?
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2011, 11:20:16 AM »
Kobe ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 

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Re: Any West Coast Hooksters?
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2011, 12:20:34 PM »
Kobe ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I tried to listen to his mixtape but found nothing special about him.

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Re: Any West Coast Hooksters?
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2011, 12:23:04 PM »
Kokane is definitely one of the bests after Nate
 

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Re: Any West Coast Hooksters?
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2011, 12:31:17 PM »
Yeah i would go for Kokane to.

But Butch Cassidy and Bookie Loc is great to.
Bo Roc also.

But even how great those are, they cant tutch Nate Dogg.
The more i think about it, and the more i listen to other singers from the west, the more obvious it is that Nate was lightyears ahead of everyone else in the game.

Again, i love the artist mentioned above, but still....
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Re: Any West Coast Hooksters?
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2011, 12:39:07 PM »
ray j? bwahahahaha. ray j? are you serious? actually, nvm. i can't knock your opinion...but, imo, he sounds horrid.
 

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Re: Any West Coast Hooksters?
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2011, 12:41:14 PM »
Kobe, Kokane & Butch >>>>>>
 

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Re: Any West Coast Hooksters?
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2011, 12:45:49 PM »
Def Kokane & Butch Cassidy.

Bokie Loc doin his thing as well.
 

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Re: Any West Coast Hooksters?
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2011, 12:55:11 PM »
Kobe ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I tried to listen to his mixtape but found nothing special about him.

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We talkin bout hooks here.

His hooks > his mixtape.

If you dont know then google and find some of the hooks he did. Shit is amazing.
 

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Re: Any West Coast Hooksters?
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2011, 02:36:46 PM »
Def Kokane & Butch Cassidy.

Those would be my top two picks and in that order.

Charlie Wilson is a hit or miss type guy, but not on the level of a Ray J.

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Re: Any West Coast Hooksters?
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2011, 02:45:54 PM »
Charlie Wilson is a hit or miss type guy, but not on the level of a Ray J.


seriously ? LMAO

Charlie Wilson is a legend, even Ray J would never dare say that he's even half as skilled as him (and i'm not even one of the ray j haters out there, i like his hooks, to an extent). He easily surpasses any hookster in the rap game. Dude has influenced entire generations of singers, go ask Aaron Hall, R. Kelly, Keith Sweat or Justin Timberlake who they respect the most.

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Re: Any West Coast Hooksters?
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2011, 02:56:21 PM »
Charlie Wilson is a hit or miss type guy, but not on the level of a Ray J.


seriously ? LMAO

Charlie Wilson is a legend, even Ray J would never dare say that he's even half as skilled as him (and i'm not even one of the ray j haters out there, i like his hooks, to an extent). He easily surpasses any hookster in the rap game. Dude has influenced entire generations of singers, go ask Aaron Hall, R. Kelly, Keith Sweat or Justin Timberlake who they respect the most.

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I see what you're sayin, but from a Rap hook perspective from hip-hop (not just purely an r&b artist), I consider him up or down and I don't think I could listen to an album where he was featured all over it as the main hook singer for 4-6 tracks.  I like his tracks like "Ghetto Fabolous" w/ Mystikal, "Groupie" w/ Daz & Kurupt, and "Signs" w/ Snoop, but I couldn't listen to him being featured for a long period of time.  He has a unique sound no doubt, but he doesn't have much versatility (his delivery and sound is exactly the same on all his hooks that I've heard).  He might be a great R&B legend, but from a rap fan's perspective for a quick hook, he doesn't seem to fit the role for me.

As far as Ray J, the stuff he did with Death Row was tight (a lot of those tracks are unreleased), him and Eastwood and Tri-Star actually formed a group.  Go listen to "I'm a Gangsta" with Yukmouth and Crooked I and "Crush" was a different look he came tight on that.  I just think he has more versatility and commercial appeal than any other R&B cat on the West right now and not saying he's great, but he's good, and right now, I can't think of anyone else to fill the role.  Like I said in my OP, I think Knoc'Turnal does dope hooks and could do more of them, rappers don't do enough of their own hooks or hooks on other rapper's tracks these days (Pac did a lot of his own hooks).
 

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Re: Any West Coast Hooksters?
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2011, 03:54:42 PM »
basically, we shouldn't even be looking for a replacement. No one can replace Nate and the legacy he left far as his hooks...and let's not forget he wasn't just a hookster cause he did have his own albums. But, he was known for hooks and as the hook king.

we don't want anyone trying to sound like him, like who ever that is on that Kush track. So, instead of who will be the next...just ereone do what they do and if you can do nice hooks then do em staying true to your own sound.

but a big fat NO to Ray J being the hook guy to run to. I'd rather Kokane, he is pretty dope, latoya williams too
 

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Re: Any West Coast Hooksters?
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2011, 04:07:14 PM »
Mystic. End thread.