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Khalil IS on fire lately (I Don't Need No Bitch, Kush), and dude IS a dope producer in his own right. The key, though, is Dre's touch. Could Khalil make a beat like this on his own?A good example of Dre's touch is Busta's "Been Through the Storm"...Snoop said that beat was shit until Dre put his hands on it, and it became a great song after he mixed and co-produced it.Dre definitely hasn't had the golden touch lately, not on Relapse, not on Recovery, not any of the new Game tracks, and none of the Detox tracks either. INAD pretty much told us where Dre's beat game is at right now...that was a HORRIBLE beat, and Dre used it anyway instead of making a much better one himself. Still, I hold out hope. I, for one, love Kush (just not Akon).
while its totally true that nik made an ass out of himself in this thread i gotta give some props he didn't call not one of us dicklickers or nut riders or other words of assorted faggotry.
Quote from: da chronic on August 02, 2011, 01:50:54 AMAnyway, khalil is pure dope and brings a new sound to the game, yes it IS a new sound. But still, he aint on that relapse level for exemple.No one can f**k with relapse' production, its insanely brillant."Stay Wide Awake" was the only amazing beat on the album IMO. "Medicine Ball" had a bangin' beat too. I never liked the production on the album.
Anyway, khalil is pure dope and brings a new sound to the game, yes it IS a new sound. But still, he aint on that relapse level for exemple.No one can f**k with relapse' production, its insanely brillant.
Dre turns mediocre beats into great ones? Lol where is there any proof of this?
Quote from: NIKCC on August 02, 2011, 12:03:25 AMQuote from: Okka on August 01, 2011, 07:29:48 PMQuote from: NIKCC on August 01, 2011, 05:49:45 PMLike I said, "Kush" was produced by Dre just as much as any track on "2001"...the critics have gotten to Dre so much that he's decided to only take credit for mixing, when he obviously did a lot more for the beat. Those songs u just posted don't even come close to the classics Dre has produced...Bottom line, Khalil has a long way to go before he reaches Dre's status. the fact that Dre hasn't even released songs in years and is still relevant speaks for itself. If Khalil stopped making songs for as long as Dre has no one would know who the fuck he even was.Dre is takin' credit for mixing because that's what he did. It's simple as that.producers will come to Dre with skeleton beats and concepts, and he will put his touches on it and make it his own. he's always been doin this, only back in the day he would actually take credit as the main producer (like what Bad Azz said)...Nowadays, he's giving the bulk of the credit to his right-hand man. still, u cant fool the ear...a dre beat is as recognizable as sinatra's voice. i will forever consider "respect" a dre beat, just like i will always consider "kush" a dre beat. i dont buy the mixing bullshit...if those tracks are not produced by dre, neither are a bulk of his classics.Other people make Dr.Dre's beats. Here's a list of people who all have said it.Bad AzzBig ChuckCold187UmDaz DillingerEmanuel DeanJ.FlexxNeff-USam SneedScott StorchSnoop DoggQuoteTo Dre's defense, he's always been characterized as a producer in the classical sense. While he does all the drum programming, Dre doesn't play any instruments. Instead, he works with and directs musicians who then translate his vision. On The Chronic 2001, Dre collaborated with producers/musicians Mel-Man, Scott Storch and Mike Elizondo - all of which received credit for their work. While Dre may not lay the string arrangement or piano keys to a beat, he's still arranging and directing the song.http://www.ugo.com/music/top-11-hip-hop-producers-dr-dre
Quote from: Okka on August 01, 2011, 07:29:48 PMQuote from: NIKCC on August 01, 2011, 05:49:45 PMLike I said, "Kush" was produced by Dre just as much as any track on "2001"...the critics have gotten to Dre so much that he's decided to only take credit for mixing, when he obviously did a lot more for the beat. Those songs u just posted don't even come close to the classics Dre has produced...Bottom line, Khalil has a long way to go before he reaches Dre's status. the fact that Dre hasn't even released songs in years and is still relevant speaks for itself. If Khalil stopped making songs for as long as Dre has no one would know who the fuck he even was.Dre is takin' credit for mixing because that's what he did. It's simple as that.producers will come to Dre with skeleton beats and concepts, and he will put his touches on it and make it his own. he's always been doin this, only back in the day he would actually take credit as the main producer (like what Bad Azz said)...Nowadays, he's giving the bulk of the credit to his right-hand man. still, u cant fool the ear...a dre beat is as recognizable as sinatra's voice. i will forever consider "respect" a dre beat, just like i will always consider "kush" a dre beat. i dont buy the mixing bullshit...if those tracks are not produced by dre, neither are a bulk of his classics.
Quote from: NIKCC on August 01, 2011, 05:49:45 PMLike I said, "Kush" was produced by Dre just as much as any track on "2001"...the critics have gotten to Dre so much that he's decided to only take credit for mixing, when he obviously did a lot more for the beat. Those songs u just posted don't even come close to the classics Dre has produced...Bottom line, Khalil has a long way to go before he reaches Dre's status. the fact that Dre hasn't even released songs in years and is still relevant speaks for itself. If Khalil stopped making songs for as long as Dre has no one would know who the fuck he even was.Dre is takin' credit for mixing because that's what he did. It's simple as that.
Like I said, "Kush" was produced by Dre just as much as any track on "2001"...the critics have gotten to Dre so much that he's decided to only take credit for mixing, when he obviously did a lot more for the beat. Those songs u just posted don't even come close to the classics Dre has produced...Bottom line, Khalil has a long way to go before he reaches Dre's status. the fact that Dre hasn't even released songs in years and is still relevant speaks for itself. If Khalil stopped making songs for as long as Dre has no one would know who the fuck he even was.
To Dre's defense, he's always been characterized as a producer in the classical sense. While he does all the drum programming, Dre doesn't play any instruments. Instead, he works with and directs musicians who then translate his vision. On The Chronic 2001, Dre collaborated with producers/musicians Mel-Man, Scott Storch and Mike Elizondo - all of which received credit for their work. While Dre may not lay the string arrangement or piano keys to a beat, he's still arranging and directing the song.
dre is a producer in the same sense that puff daddy used to produce and has won mad producer of the decade awards and shit back in the 90s.