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D.O.C.'s Top Five D.O.C. Ghostwritten Songs (LA Weekly)
« on: August 05, 2011, 03:04:34 PM »
http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2011/08/docs_top_five_doc_ghostwritten.php

​In the paper this week I get inside the head of D.O.C., who ghostewrote the bulk of the early Ruthless Records catalog and is all over The Chronic and Doggystyle. His own solo career was ascendent on the strength of his platinum debut No One Can Do It Better before a car accident wrecked his vocal chords.
Though originally from Dallas, D.O.C's a West coast legend, largely responsible for creating the hip hop characters portrayed by Eazy-E, Dr. Dre, and Snoop. He has rarely gotten the proper credit -- or cash -- due to him over the years, but it's no secret that penned many of the big early gangsta rap classics. Here then, straight from the man himself, are his top five songs he wrote on, in no particular order.

1. "Nuthin' But A 'G' Thang," Dr. Dre featuring Snoop
"When ''G' Thang' was created, I was living in Agoura Hills, and Snoop and Warren G were living with me. In 1990 me and Snoop each took the beat to different parts of the house to write. Snoop went upstairs, I stayed downstairs, and we met back up in an hour. When he came back downstairs I said, 'Let's take this piece and put it here...This doesn't really work there.' It's really just like a jigsaw [puzzle]. And then I said, 'For the last line [of Dre's verse], let's put my name on there,' because otherwise I wouldn't get to be in the song. That's why Dre says: Like my nigga D.O.C./ No one can do it better."

2. "We Want Eazy," Eazy-E
"That was the first day I ever went to the studio with Dre in Cali, in 1988. Dre pulled up the track and said, 'Doc, you got something?' Eazy, Ren and Yella were there -- Cube wasn't around a lot. [The song] took me 15 minutes to write. When you're 19 and excited, that shit comes out of you like piss. Eazy started learning it -- that took a day or two. He wasn't the most talented motherfucker in the world; it generally took him 12 hours to get through a verse. But when he got it it was good, and pretty soon the song was every-fucking-where. That's a testament to Dre, who taught me 95 percent of what I know.

3. "The Next Episode," Dr. Dre, featuring Snoop Dogg, Nate Dogg, and Kurupt
"I'd cultivated that song for such a long time. The very last line of ''G' Thang' is 'Just chill 'till the next episode,' but this song didn't happen for ten more years. We did it three or four times before it finally appeared on 2001. We were just waiting for the right story, and 2001 ended up being a huge record."

4. "Prelude/Still Talkin'," Eazy-E
"That's my Rakim impression: 'Easily I approach...' That was me giving Eazy East coast impressions that other West coast guys weren't up on...[At that point] everyone was saying I was the greatest. I got a big head. When I came in with a good rap, Cube would have to go home and re-write his raps. We would goof around. Once we pretended we were film critics from London. It was funny to see Cube with his gheri curl, doing a British accent.

5. "Alwayz Into Somethin'," NWA
"This was when Cube had just left the group. I'd just lost my voice. Everyone's wondering, 'How's NWA gonna continue, with Cube gone?' As for me, all I had was alcohol and strip clubs. I was going though a tough time. I wrote that song for everyone, and it made me feel that even though I'd lost my voice I was still valuable."
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Re: D.O.C.'s Top Five D.O.C. Ghostwritten Songs (LA Weekly)
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2011, 05:10:47 PM »
and people sittin here tryna act like the guy who wrote 5 of the biggest west coast tracks ever aint west coast.....smh

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Re: D.O.C.'s Top Five D.O.C. Ghostwritten Songs (LA Weekly)
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2011, 06:47:00 PM »
Eminem wrote Dre's biggest hits. He must be west coast.

On topic, you can see how D.O.C.'s ghostwriting changed. On Eazy Duz It the songs he wrote were pretty similar to his own style. Then he started writing g shit and dumbing it down for Dre's lyrics.
 

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Re: D.O.C.'s Top Five D.O.C. Ghostwritten Songs (LA Weekly)
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2011, 07:47:32 PM »
you can see how D.O.C.'s ghostwriting changed. On Eazy Duz It the songs he wrote were pretty similar to his own style. Then he started writing g shit and dumbing it down for Dre's lyrics.

A good ghostwriter adjusts his writing to conform to the natural rhythms of the artist he's writing for so as to mask the writer's own innate style.  This is why DOC is a great ghostwriter.  What he writes for dudes sounds natural for them.  It's also why Eminem is not a good ghostwriter, because he doesn't adjust his writing.
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Re: D.O.C.'s Top Five D.O.C. Ghostwritten Songs (LA Weekly)
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2011, 08:23:28 PM »
dumbing it down for Dre's lyrics.

it's not like Eazy E was kicking rhymes like KRS-1.   I actually think that Eazy's lyrics are dumbed down compared to Dre's.

...nice to hear some background info on some of the songs he wrote.  Would like to hear more about this. 
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Re: D.O.C.'s Top Five D.O.C. Ghostwritten Songs (LA Weekly)
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2011, 08:30:03 PM »
ive heard some of the reference tracks that big and jay ghost did for lil kim,  its crazy to hear them rap about sucking dicks and shit lmao

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Re: D.O.C.'s Top Five D.O.C. Ghostwritten Songs (LA Weekly)
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2011, 08:52:03 PM »
you can see how D.O.C.'s ghostwriting changed. On Eazy Duz It the songs he wrote were pretty similar to his own style. Then he started writing g shit and dumbing it down for Dre's lyrics.

A good ghostwriter adjusts his writing to conform to the natural rhythms of the artist he's writing for so as to mask the writer's own innate style.  This is why DOC is a great ghostwriter.  What he writes for dudes sounds natural for them.  It's also why Eminem is not a good ghostwriter, because he doesn't adjust his writing.

say what you want but for his first 2 albums and 2001 his ghostwriting for Dre was sick and probably the best lyrics Dre's ever had.
 

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Re: D.O.C.'s Top Five D.O.C. Ghostwritten Songs (LA Weekly)
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2011, 08:54:27 PM »
dumbing it down for Dre's lyrics.

it's not like Eazy E was kicking rhymes like KRS-1.   I actually think that Eazy's lyrics are dumbed down compared to Dre's.

We want Eazy definitely sounds like the D.O.C.
 

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Re: D.O.C.'s Top Five D.O.C. Ghostwritten Songs (LA Weekly)
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2011, 03:04:56 AM »
congrats chad

http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2011/08/docs_top_five_doc_ghostwritten.php

​In the paper this week I get inside the head of D.O.C., who ghostewrote the bulk of the early Ruthless Records catalog and is all over The Chronic and Doggystyle. His own solo career was ascendent on the strength of his platinum debut No One Can Do It Better before a car accident wrecked his vocal chords.
Though originally from Dallas, D.O.C's a West coast legend, largely responsible for creating the hip hop characters portrayed by Eazy-E, Dr. Dre, and Snoop. He has rarely gotten the proper credit -- or cash -- due to him over the years, but it's no secret that penned many of the big early gangsta rap classics. Here then, straight from the man himself, are his top five songs he wrote on, in no particular order.
do you really believe that?
dude was heavy on the drugs & alcohol. he says hes been sober for a few months.
i dont know about the credits, but i believe he wasted his money. cant blame the labels for that



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Re: D.O.C.'s Top Five D.O.C. Ghostwritten Songs (LA Weekly)
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2011, 03:11:54 AM »
Eminem wrote Dre's biggest hits. He must be west coast.

On topic, you can see how D.O.C.'s ghostwriting changed. On Eazy Duz It the songs he wrote were pretty similar to his own style. Then he started writing g shit and dumbing it down for Dre's lyrics.


show me 1 track where eminem repped the west coast lmao

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Re: D.O.C.'s Top Five D.O.C. Ghostwritten Songs (LA Weekly)
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2011, 06:29:47 AM »
props on the interview 8)

how about DOC's best ghostwritten albums? Doggystyle?
 

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Re: D.O.C.'s Top Five D.O.C. Ghostwritten Songs (LA Weekly)
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2011, 02:18:56 PM »
Always thought he did a good job ghostwriting "That's That Shit" for Snoop.
 

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Re: D.O.C.'s Top Five D.O.C. Ghostwritten Songs (LA Weekly)
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2011, 03:17:04 PM »
Eminem wrote Dre's biggest hits. He must be west coast.

On topic, you can see how D.O.C.'s ghostwriting changed. On Eazy Duz It the songs he wrote were pretty similar to his own style. Then he started writing g shit and dumbing it down for Dre's lyrics.


show me 1 track where eminem repped the west coast lmao

Crack a Bottle. "But what else can I say, I love LA"

how about DOC's best ghostwritten albums? Doggystyle?

He didn't write on Doggystyle
 

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Re: D.O.C.'s Top Five D.O.C. Ghostwritten Songs (LA Weekly)
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2011, 03:28:07 PM »
Eminem wrote Dre's biggest hits. He must be west coast.

On topic, you can see how D.O.C.'s ghostwriting changed. On Eazy Duz It the songs he wrote were pretty similar to his own style. Then he started writing g shit and dumbing it down for Dre's lyrics.


show me 1 track where eminem repped the west coast lmao

Crack a Bottle. "But what else can I say, I love LA"

how about DOC's best ghostwritten albums? Doggystyle?

He didn't write on Doggystyle


LMFAO@u considering that "reppin" the west...again, slap yaself.

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Re: D.O.C.'s Top Five D.O.C. Ghostwritten Songs (LA Weekly)
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2011, 03:42:07 PM »
I found it interesting that there are a couple of other versions "Next Episode" out there.  I wonder if they were recorded during the early Death Row days like the OG version or later on.