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Quote from: NIKCC on August 13, 2011, 01:05:29 AMQuote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on August 13, 2011, 01:00:46 AMQuote from: NIKCC on August 13, 2011, 12:42:36 AMLOL...there aint nothin REAL about rappers who water down their music for sales. smhWhy not? If I lyrically tell you how I was a drug dealer & my experiences or if I just straight up say, I was a drug dealer, it doesn't change how real the message is.Eminem used to write hard, serious lyrics about his daughter. Then he made "Hayley's Song" & he was straight up singing for 3/4ths of it. Does it change the realness of the situation despite one being more mainstream & female friendly?biebs, stfu. i am not acknowledging ur views on hip-hop anymore...this is a discussion for grown men. u dont fit in.WIN.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on August 13, 2011, 01:00:46 AMQuote from: NIKCC on August 13, 2011, 12:42:36 AMLOL...there aint nothin REAL about rappers who water down their music for sales. smhWhy not? If I lyrically tell you how I was a drug dealer & my experiences or if I just straight up say, I was a drug dealer, it doesn't change how real the message is.Eminem used to write hard, serious lyrics about his daughter. Then he made "Hayley's Song" & he was straight up singing for 3/4ths of it. Does it change the realness of the situation despite one being more mainstream & female friendly?biebs, stfu. i am not acknowledging ur views on hip-hop anymore...this is a discussion for grown men. u dont fit in.
Quote from: NIKCC on August 13, 2011, 12:42:36 AMLOL...there aint nothin REAL about rappers who water down their music for sales. smhWhy not? If I lyrically tell you how I was a drug dealer & my experiences or if I just straight up say, I was a drug dealer, it doesn't change how real the message is.Eminem used to write hard, serious lyrics about his daughter. Then he made "Hayley's Song" & he was straight up singing for 3/4ths of it. Does it change the realness of the situation despite one being more mainstream & female friendly?
LOL...there aint nothin REAL about rappers who water down their music for sales. smh
Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on August 13, 2011, 01:11:50 AMQuote from: NIKCC on August 13, 2011, 01:05:29 AMQuote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on August 13, 2011, 01:00:46 AMQuote from: NIKCC on August 13, 2011, 12:42:36 AMLOL...there aint nothin REAL about rappers who water down their music for sales. smhWhy not? If I lyrically tell you how I was a drug dealer & my experiences or if I just straight up say, I was a drug dealer, it doesn't change how real the message is.Eminem used to write hard, serious lyrics about his daughter. Then he made "Hayley's Song" & he was straight up singing for 3/4ths of it. Does it change the realness of the situation despite one being more mainstream & female friendly?biebs, stfu. i am not acknowledging ur views on hip-hop anymore...this is a discussion for grown men. u dont fit in.WIN.yes...u win, and jay-z is realer for dumbing down his lyrics to sell more and making pop music for the masses, as opposed to staying true to himself. i would kill myself if i were u.
Quote from: NIKCC on August 13, 2011, 02:17:36 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on August 13, 2011, 01:11:50 AMQuote from: NIKCC on August 13, 2011, 01:05:29 AMQuote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on August 13, 2011, 01:00:46 AMQuote from: NIKCC on August 13, 2011, 12:42:36 AMLOL...there aint nothin REAL about rappers who water down their music for sales. smhWhy not? If I lyrically tell you how I was a drug dealer & my experiences or if I just straight up say, I was a drug dealer, it doesn't change how real the message is.Eminem used to write hard, serious lyrics about his daughter. Then he made "Hayley's Song" & he was straight up singing for 3/4ths of it. Does it change the realness of the situation despite one being more mainstream & female friendly?biebs, stfu. i am not acknowledging ur views on hip-hop anymore...this is a discussion for grown men. u dont fit in.WIN.yes...u win, and jay-z is realer for dumbing down his lyrics to sell more and making pop music for the masses, as opposed to staying true to himself. i would kill myself if i were u.yeah cos tupac totaly didnt do that on all eyez on me
Jay-Z's image in hip hop is as a businessman and hustler, and that's pretty much what he is. He started as a street hustler and through his rhymes and business suave he has become one of the most popular rappers of all time and the CEO of a record label. He accomplished this through hustling and handling his business. So whenever he brags about this in his music he's speaking the truth and being "real".Many of 2Pac's songs are about things he never actually did or experienced. He's even admitted in interviews he sucked at selling drugs and couldn't do it, and that he never had any problems with the police until he started dissing them in his music. How is he a "real rapper", if some of his music is fictional?
Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on August 11, 2011, 09:02:20 PMJay-Z's image in hip hop is as a businessman and hustler, and that's pretty much what he is. He started as a street hustler and through his rhymes and business suave he has become one of the most popular rappers of all time and the CEO of a record label. He accomplished this through hustling and handling his business. So whenever he brags about this in his music he's speaking the truth and being "real".Many of 2Pac's songs are about things he never actually did or experienced. He's even admitted in interviews he sucked at selling drugs and couldn't do it, and that he never had any problems with the police until he started dissing them in his music. How is he a "real rapper", if some of his music is fictional?According to this theory, if I sat on the couch all day and ate Doritos and watched the NFL Network, and then wrote raps strictly about eating Doritos and watching the NFL network, then I would be the realest rapper in history, right?
Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on August 13, 2011, 11:18:55 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on August 11, 2011, 09:02:20 PMJay-Z's image in hip hop is as a businessman and hustler, and that's pretty much what he is. He started as a street hustler and through his rhymes and business suave he has become one of the most popular rappers of all time and the CEO of a record label. He accomplished this through hustling and handling his business. So whenever he brags about this in his music he's speaking the truth and being "real".Many of 2Pac's songs are about things he never actually did or experienced. He's even admitted in interviews he sucked at selling drugs and couldn't do it, and that he never had any problems with the police until he started dissing them in his music. How is he a "real rapper", if some of his music is fictional?According to this theory, if I sat on the couch all day and ate Doritos and watched the NFL Network, and then wrote raps strictly about eating Doritos and watching the NFL network, then I would be the realest rapper in history, right? He would be. Because he would be rapping about "real shit". How are you real if you are rapping about made up stuff? You know what the word real means right? taken from dictionary.com: "true; not merely ostensible, nominal, or apparent"What do you think real means?
LOL, NIK. You just admitted Pac dumbed his shit down.Now tell me what's realer, admitting it like a man or tryna act like you're still being real "thug life"-like & really just getting poppy? Listen to what you say sometimes.
Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on August 13, 2011, 11:40:50 PMQuote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on August 13, 2011, 11:18:55 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on August 11, 2011, 09:02:20 PMJay-Z's image in hip hop is as a businessman and hustler, and that's pretty much what he is. He started as a street hustler and through his rhymes and business suave he has become one of the most popular rappers of all time and the CEO of a record label. He accomplished this through hustling and handling his business. So whenever he brags about this in his music he's speaking the truth and being "real".Many of 2Pac's songs are about things he never actually did or experienced. He's even admitted in interviews he sucked at selling drugs and couldn't do it, and that he never had any problems with the police until he started dissing them in his music. How is he a "real rapper", if some of his music is fictional?According to this theory, if I sat on the couch all day and ate Doritos and watched the NFL Network, and then wrote raps strictly about eating Doritos and watching the NFL network, then I would be the realest rapper in history, right? He would be. Because he would be rapping about "real shit". How are you real if you are rapping about made up stuff? You know what the word real means right? taken from dictionary.com: "true; not merely ostensible, nominal, or apparent"What do you think real means?admitting ur a bitch doesnt make u real, u dumb ass kidsand in hip-hop, keepin it real means a lot more than just "tellin the truth", my hicks
Quote from: NIKCC on August 14, 2011, 12:58:09 AMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on August 13, 2011, 11:40:50 PMQuote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on August 13, 2011, 11:18:55 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on August 11, 2011, 09:02:20 PMJay-Z's image in hip hop is as a businessman and hustler, and that's pretty much what he is. He started as a street hustler and through his rhymes and business suave he has become one of the most popular rappers of all time and the CEO of a record label. He accomplished this through hustling and handling his business. So whenever he brags about this in his music he's speaking the truth and being "real".Many of 2Pac's songs are about things he never actually did or experienced. He's even admitted in interviews he sucked at selling drugs and couldn't do it, and that he never had any problems with the police until he started dissing them in his music. How is he a "real rapper", if some of his music is fictional?According to this theory, if I sat on the couch all day and ate Doritos and watched the NFL Network, and then wrote raps strictly about eating Doritos and watching the NFL network, then I would be the realest rapper in history, right? He would be. Because he would be rapping about "real shit". How are you real if you are rapping about made up stuff? You know what the word real means right? taken from dictionary.com: "true; not merely ostensible, nominal, or apparent"What do you think real means?admitting ur a bitch doesnt make u real, u dumb ass kidsand in hip-hop, keepin it real means a lot more than just "tellin the truth", my hicksfact: rapping about things that aren't real isn't "keeping it real." Jay-Z rapped about what he knew, Pac rapped about a life that wasn't his. Conclusion? Jay-Z is realer.When did Jay-Z admit to being a bitch? He said he dumbed down his music to make money. Which fits in perfectly with the hustler mentality. Jay-Z is the epitome of a hustler. As far as Jay-Z killing someone...you posted lyrics where he says he would kill someone that was trying to kill him. It doesn't sound like a lie to me. Wouldn't most of us kill to preserve our own life?
well define real then. jay is telling the truth in that rhyme so how is it not real?