Should we read anything into Dr. Dre's contributions actually hurting RED album?

[Detox Is A Myth!!!]

Let me start by acknowledging I know Dre didn't explicitly produce Drug Test, but we know he worked on the production the same way he did on Kush, and he added vocals to it, so I'm going to consider this as much Dre's song as Khalil's.

Having said that, the consensus seems to be that Drug Test is one of the worst productions on RED Album, and I'm struggling to remember a previous instance in which that was the case for Dr. Dre.  Can anyone think of a precedent for this, when Dre had what was commonly acknowledged to be one of the worst contributions (i.e. quasi-productions) on an album?

If not, this could be a milestone (in a negative way).  Should we take it as a sign that Dre has fallen off steeply?  I remember back in the day it was anathema to think Dr. Dre's direct contributions to an album would actually hurt the album.  Oh, how the mighty have fallen 

So, should we not overreact to this, or is it a sign of the times in your opinion?  For me, it's empirical evidence that Dr. Dre has fallen off hard, which is sad to be honest with you.  But I just want to know what you think.  And if you give Dre a pass for this embarrassment, why?  You can only have blind faith in something or somebody for so long before you need to acknowledge reality.  Just my 2 cents.  What do you think?

[Okka]

Fuck you.















Just kiddin', i don't think the beat of "Drug Test" was one of the worst beats on the album though. I like it, it's bangin'.

[bouli77]

i think Dre doesn't give a fuck about Game at all but acts as if he did. so he let him use a track he didn't bother take to the next level. and in the end it's a terrible track IMHO, possibly the worst Dre/Khalil track i've ever heard lol.

[Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation)]

its not the worst production on the album. u expected somethin else, cuz O.G. Dre's name was tied wit the credit,, but since it didnt live up to par,, ur brushin it off as "bad/wack" -- hence, "the worst production on the album." if Dre didnt rap on it, or if he wasnt credited as a producer, ud probly like it.

[bouli77]

as far as i'm concerned dre doesn't increase my expectations, especially these days. in general people tend to overrate tracks if their favorite musicians are involved. truthfully i can't recall dre sounding that bad on a track. as for the khalil productions i think it's annoying but then again it's only my opinion.

[Dre-Day]

Let me start by acknowledging I know Dre didn't explicitly produce Drug Test, but we know he worked on the production the same way he did on Kush, and he added vocals to it, so I'm going to consider this as much Dre's song as Khalil's.

Having said that, the consensus seems to be that Drug Test is one of the worst productions on RED Album, and I'm struggling to remember a previous instance in which that was the case for Dr. Dre.  Can anyone think of a precedent for this, when Dre had what was commonly acknowledged to be one of the worst contributions (i.e. quasi-productions) on an album?

If not, this could be a milestone (in a negative way).  Should we take it as a sign that Dre has fallen off steeply?  I remember back in the day it was anathema to think Dr. Dre's direct contributions to an album would actually hurt the album.  Oh, how the mighty have fallen 

So, should we not overreact to this, or is it a sign of the times in your opinion?  For me, it's empirical evidence that Dr. Dre has fallen off hard, which is sad to be honest with you.  But I just want to know what you think.  And if you give Dre a pass for this embarrassment, why?  You can only have blind faith in something or somebody for so long before you need to acknowledge reality.  Just my 2 cents.  What do you think?

i thought you said he fell off a long time ago.

anyway, dre is not making himself look good with the music since last year

[EFFeX]

I thought the beat was straight. The song itself wasn't anything special though. Definitely not the worst production on the album.

[Jimmy H.]

Gimme a break with that shit! Dre been helping with Khahlil for awhile now and every time the shit is hot, it's all Khalil. When it's wack, fucking Dre did it.

But to put a point on it all, I don't think his contributions hurt the album at all. From a marketing standpoint, he came up under Dr. Dre and can advertise Dre as being part of the project. This is a considerable overall selling point. I didn't personally like the song much on my only listen but public opinion will decide where it goes from here.

[Matty]

i was expecting the final version of that track to be significantly better than the leaked one, at the least. it wasn't. it didn't even sound like it was mixed very interestingly, just a throwaway. pretty bad joint all in all and a real bad look for dre. timbaland has already done club style joints like that and a lot better.

[Will_B]

Was established this was a Detox leftover.

Dre gave Game a rejected track, n just wasn't fussed to do any more to it...

[TerryMak]

back in 96 or 97 Dre produced a track for Nas on (It was Written) called (Nas is coming) and that was average but at least he seemed to produce the whole song. Dre still has talent, and a couple strikes is not bad as long as he hits a grand slam with Detox.

[Chamillitary Click]

There was nothing wrong with the beat for that song. It just sucked.

& to answer your question, no. Game (as you can tell from his features), tried hella hard to be mainstream.

[Deuce-Deuce]

back in 96 or 97 Dre produced a track for Nas on (It was Written) called (Nas is coming) and that was average but at least he seemed to produce the whole song. Dre still has talent, and a couple strikes is not bad as long as he hits a grand slam with Detox.

I like that song, it was on some apocalyptic shit. I always thought that would be from Dre's Helter Skelter.

[E Dub]

the song is nowhere near as bad as you lot are making out?

i actually enjoy it in the car, snoop should have a had a longer verse

[GangstaBoogy]

Game shouldve asked to use the Kush Remix. Not like Dre's still going to release it.