what do west coast fans consider a flop

[BOX5 the best poster on this site yell]

I'm asking cause I heard equals clowning the legendary snoop for not pushing 100k first week (fucc first week by the way], yet its been other joints that dropped that have sold less and yet nobody says shit. And if its about being positive let's be That way with everybody out here.

Yell

[Quadruple OG]

I'm asking cause I heard equals clowning the legendary snoop for not pushing 100k first week (fucc first week by the way], yet its been other joints that dropped that have sold less and yet nobody says shit. And if its about being positive let's be That way with everybody out here.

Yell

In Snoop's case, when an established artist has a following and corporate entities pushing his material and he doesn't sell that would be a flop. Or with Game, when you fabricate album sales figures, drop 74 "lead" singles, and still can't push the units you claim, that'd be a flop.

As far as the other joints, not sure which you're referring to.

[Will_B]

Most people here are calling everything a flop...but not supporting the releases either.

[Blood$]

I've been waiting on this thread for a long time

the simple answer is this: there is no such thing as a flop anymore since nobody sells records, especially if you are a newer artist

[Quadruple OG]

I've been waiting on this thread for a long time

the simple answer is this: there is no such thing as a flop anymore since nobody sells records, especially if you are a newer artist

Exactly. Pitbull I think has sold under 200,000 copies of his last album yet you can't escape his songs on the radio, in clubs, etc. Same with LMFAO.

[BOX5 the best poster on this site yell]

I'm saying albums like quik or say a glasses.  Quik is an established name who sold some records and glasses is with cash money but no one is on they head like snoop and game.  Me personally I say fucc sales its about how good the album is to me. Others say it to yet still shit on the snoops of the world, I mean he's not as big as he was in the past and neither is quik yet people judge snoop on his sales more then the actual album
yell

[Will_B]

I may be wrong but Snoop didn't get any 'real' promo done for his album (here in the UK anyways).

Only leaks, tweets n youtubes etc.


A major celeb artist like Snoops missing out by not getting that shit on big ass posters and TV ads..only geeks are checking for his shit.

[BOX5 the best poster on this site yell]

I've been waiting on this thread for a long time

the simple answer is this: there is no such thing as a flop anymore since nobody sells records, especially if you are a newer artist

Exactly. Pitbull I think has sold under 200,000 copies of his last album yet you can't escape his songs on the radio, in clubs, etc. Same with LMFAO.

You got to judge pit and Lmfao different because they sale plat ring tones and they are marketed as that so they are providing their labels with something in their 269 deals. Yell
1

[Will_B]

'Give Me Everything Toight' is one of the few commercial tracks I liked this year..

[wcsoldier]

it's all about the quality of the music to me ... as long as the independant (and mainstream) artists push enough units to keep releasing music in good conditions , it's fine for me (obviously not for them) ... keep in mind the cost of the album , selling 20 000 for an independant artist might be enough to break even while doing 200-300k  might be terrible for a big artist  in some cases (whether his claims are true or not , I remember Kanye was saying he needed to sell 2.6 millions of copies of Late Registration to break even)

[Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation)]

if ur coming up under the biggest ranked rap-superstars of all time, n cant hold ur own wit ur career or music

Outlawz (2pac) -- fail
d12 (eminem) - fail
lil cease, junior mafia (biggie) - fail

[BOX5 the best poster on this site yell]

I may be wrong but Snoop didn't get any 'real' promo done for his album (here in the UK anyways).

Only leaks, tweets n youtubes etc.


A major celeb artist like Snoops missing out by not getting that shit on big ass posters and TV ads..only geeks are checking for his shit.

You right I got the snoop joint but the only Shit I heard about snoop at the time was he was performing at prince William party or some shit like that.

Then other artist I think Stay in mixtape mode to much and don't promote they album hard enough. Game had more people talking about uncle Otis then pot of gold which is on his networth album.  Your pub you get from mainstream interviews especially should mainly focus on your paying  product (good/controversial). Bottom line rappers should not have mixtapes so close to album releases or shouldn't have one come out shortly after, fans get use to getting yo shit for free and when one drops shortly after it looks like you're trying to make up for a bad album,especially on the coast.  Got to keep promoting they networth albums is key yell

[Will_B]

Cee-Lo actually dropped a mixtape ahead of the last album and did a load of interviews sayin it was better material than on his album.

Hype I guess, to get the downloads and rack up more fans..

[Quadruple OG]

'Give Me Everything Toight' is one of the few commercial tracks I liked this year..

I liked the T-Pain one better personally. When I was in Vegas all I seemed to hear was "Give Me Everything" and LMFAO in the clubs. Tao I really liked since they mixed in some more hip-hop there.

[HighEyeCue]

BEP last album compared to their previous one which sold like 3 million in the US