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Amaru's Last 2Pac album
« on: December 18, 2011, 07:29:14 AM »
The last album Amaru did consider was an album titled "Pac's Kids" - An album featuring music enthusiasts within the TASF (Tupac Amaru Shakur Centre for the Arts) and was briefly mentioned as a consideration during the Afterschool Enrichment Class. It would be an album of unreleased 2Pac recordings featuring additional vocals from aspiring rappers, and production by students studying sound production. The idea behind it was pretty cool. It was an album of 2Pac's giving back to the youth by allowing them to appear on it. Afeni was really behind it, however it wasn't considered a big selling point by distributors, and necessary funding was seen as secondary to the actual development and running of the centre itself so the idea was scrapped

There were plans of videos around the centre, and submitted art work, and ideas solely from students at the centre, and other talented young individuals
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Re: Amaru's Last 2Pac album
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2011, 10:06:07 AM »
The last album Amaru did consider was an album titled "Pac's Kids" - An album featuring music enthusiasts within the TASF (Tupac Amaru Shakur Centre for the Arts) and was briefly mentioned as a consideration during the Afterschool Enrichment Class. It would be an album of unreleased 2Pac recordings featuring additional vocals from aspiring rappers, and production by students studying sound production. The idea behind it was pretty cool. It was an album of 2Pac's giving back to the youth by allowing them to appear on it. Afeni was really behind it, however it wasn't considered a big selling point by distributors, and necessary funding was seen as secondary to the actual development and running of the centre itself so the idea was scrapped

There were plans of videos around the centre, and submitted art work, and ideas solely from students at the centre, and other talented young individuals

This is the problem with having his mom in control of these projects (no disrespect).  Put out a close to OG version of the album, and do a mixtape with the kids or something.  Any real 2pac fan wants it OG.
 

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Re: Amaru's Last 2Pac album
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2011, 11:28:12 AM »
^^^right^^^


I don't wanna disrespect Afeni at all but she jah did fuck up Pac's legacy with her decisions.  But if I was Pac I probably woulda just had momz handle my Estate so it's not like she's at fault 100%. 


Pac was already herold as a Hero from all walks of life but for some reason she tried to turn Pac into that he wasn't and it backfired.  "R U Still Down" was the shit and all but after that it was pretty much disappointments from there on out (maybe with the exceptions of some movies here and there). 


The real problem is she didn't stick to the winning formula that Pac had invested his energy into and created, she just thought that updating his instrumentals and guest appearances would suffice but NOT ONCE did anybody anywhere whether in the Streets on the Internet EVER co-sign new producers and newer artists featured on his tracks.  All of that was solely Afeni and Amaru's decision and fault and it's why they've dwindled the 2Pac Shakur brand over the years (significantly i should add).  Now Pac's remixed album are virtually worthless and uninteresting and nobody's really checking for em (sorry but i have to tell tha truth).  it's been just abuncha shitty remixes thrown ontop of timeless music. 


Even when i was a Pre-Teen and i didn't know shit about marketing or Hip Hop like that I knew not to fuck with Pac's music and if u did all it would is backfire on u.  "Ballad Of A Dead Soulja" and a few other tracks past "Greatest Hits" were the only really good Pac tracks released after his transition. 


I'm not saying that he's outta tha paint completely but there's really been no reason to stick around for Pac other than the reason of it being Pac.  10 years from now EVERYBODY will be playing the Original 2Pac Shakur collection (with the exception of very few songs here and there) and that's not just becuz the 90's gets more love nuertally but becuz that's the bulk of quality Makaveli music. 


with that said God Bless 2Pac
 

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Re: Amaru's Last 2Pac album
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2011, 10:02:31 PM »
^^^right^^^


I don't wanna disrespect Afeni at all but she jah did fuck up Pac's legacy with her decisions.  But if I was Pac I probably woulda just had momz handle my Estate so it's not like she's at fault 100%. 


Pac was already herold as a Hero from all walks of life but for some reason she tried to turn Pac into that he wasn't and it backfired.  "R U Still Down" was the shit and all but after that it was pretty much disappointments from there on out (maybe with the exceptions of some movies here and there). 


The real problem is she didn't stick to the winning formula that Pac had invested his energy into and created, she just thought that updating his instrumentals and guest appearances would suffice but NOT ONCE did anybody anywhere whether in the Streets on the Internet EVER co-sign new producers and newer artists featured on his tracks.  All of that was solely Afeni and Amaru's decision and fault and it's why they've dwindled the 2Pac Shakur brand over the years (significantly i should add).  Now Pac's remixed album are virtually worthless and uninteresting and nobody's really checking for em (sorry but i have to tell tha truth).  it's been just abuncha shitty remixes thrown ontop of timeless music. 


Even when i was a Pre-Teen and i didn't know shit about marketing or Hip Hop like that I knew not to fuck with Pac's music and if u did all it would is backfire on u.  "Ballad Of A Dead Soulja" and a few other tracks past "Greatest Hits" were the only really good Pac tracks released after his transition. 


I'm not saying that he's outta tha paint completely but there's really been no reason to stick around for Pac other than the reason of it being Pac.  10 years from now EVERYBODY will be playing the Original 2Pac Shakur collection (with the exception of very few songs here and there) and that's not just becuz the 90's gets more love nuertally but becuz that's the bulk of quality Makaveli music. 


with that said God Bless 2Pac
you have finally voiced an opinion i can co-sign...well said man
 

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Re: Amaru's Last 2Pac album
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2011, 11:03:01 PM »
Nigga there's alotta shit you agree with me on, you're just too Coon'd Up to admit it or see it.  It's all good tho, "it's just the Internet". 
 

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Re: Amaru's Last 2Pac album
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2011, 01:15:11 AM »
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Re: Amaru's Last 2Pac album
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2011, 03:36:08 AM »
This would have been a good album, and a completely different take on a retail 2Pac release. Similar, but unlike The Rose That Grew from Concrete, it would contain student involvement on a more creative level than just rapping out 2Pac poetry. It would be their own, as well as previously unreleased 2Pac verses included on tracks.

Pretty much everything from song arrangement, verses, production, mixing, CD art work, video concepts to street promotion would all be done by centre for the arts students. It would be like a creative student project "featuring" 2Pac, than a 2Pac album featuring kids, if that makes sense, but obviously the marketing would have likely been different to sell it. Afeni and others at Amaru were really behind it

That was one idea of what to do with the remaining 45 unreleased tracks they have left, some of which are incomplete and unfinished

The future of Amaru and the 45 unreleased Tupac songs is to do the same as above but on a far smaller scale, by using a handful of tracks at a time rather than releasing full retail albums.

Amaru have NO intention of releasing any more "new" 2Pac albums. They may in the future decide to re-release the existing catalogue remastered with the latest technology at that time, remixes of earlier work/albums, or assisting music to documentaries, which will contain existing 2Pac songs that are already out there
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Re: Amaru's Last 2Pac album
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2011, 05:56:33 AM »
There is way more then just 45 tracks i myself have about 60 unreleased tracks there's about 50-60 death row era tracks still hasnt been released and predeathrow there's over 150 left. I remember Tyrese was being interviewed by MTV and he was talking about when he met afeni and she told him that Tupac recorded more than 500 tracks. So they def still have tons of music left.
 

V2DHeart

Re: Amaru's Last 2Pac album
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2011, 06:39:35 AM »
I can assure you, Amaru only have the rights to 45 unreleased recordings as of now. That's directly from a source at Amaru

Not every unreleased track with 2Pac on it is owned by the estate. They may, with the power of law, be able to dictate on how his vocals are used

I'd like you to list those 60 previously unreleased Death Row era tracks you claim to have.............

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Re: Amaru's Last 2Pac album
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2011, 07:53:07 AM »
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doublee313

Re: Amaru's Last 2Pac album
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2011, 08:05:32 AM »
This would have been a good album, and a completely different take on a retail 2Pac release. Similar, but unlike The Rose That Grew from Concrete, it would contain student involvement on a more creative level than just rapping out 2Pac poetry. It would be their own, as well as previously unreleased 2Pac verses included on tracks.

Pretty much everything from song arrangement, verses, production, mixing, CD art work, video concepts to street promotion would all be done by centre for the arts students. It would be like a creative student project "featuring" 2Pac, than a 2Pac album featuring kids, if that makes sense, but obviously the marketing would have likely been different to sell it. Afeni and others at Amaru were really behind it

That was one idea of what to do with the remaining 45 unreleased tracks they have left, some of which are incomplete and unfinished

The future of Amaru and the 45 unreleased Tupac songs is to do the same as above but on a far smaller scale, by using a handful of tracks at a time rather than releasing full retail albums.

Amaru have NO intention of releasing any more "new" 2Pac albums. They may in the future decide to re-release the existing catalogue remastered with the latest technology at that time, remixes of earlier work/albums, or assisting music to documentaries, which will contain existing 2Pac songs that are already out there

Not a good business move as we mentioned above.  She needs to release them as 2Pac albums as there are still plenty of fans out there.  We can't have some kids messing around with a legends stuff.  Look at the flack Eminem got for going Loyal To The Game.  That alone should say something. 

I understand she wants to help the kids.  Do an album without 2Pac on it for them.  Don't waste a legends talent over some kids. 

This is even upsetting hearing about this.  Afeni should be ashamed of herself for this idea.
 

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Re: Amaru's Last 2Pac album
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2011, 08:08:36 AM »
The real problem is she didn't stick to the winning formula that Pac had invested his energy into and created, she just thought that updating his instrumentals and guest appearances would suffice but NOT ONCE did anybody anywhere whether in the Streets on the Internet EVER co-sign new producers and newer artists featured on his tracks.  All of that was solely Afeni and Amaru's decision and fault and it's why they've dwindled the 2Pac Shakur brand over the years (significantly i should add).  Now Pac's remixed album are virtually worthless and uninteresting and nobody's really checking for em (sorry but i have to tell tha truth).  it's been just abuncha shitty remixes thrown ontop of timeless music. 

That's where you're wrong. They may not have been the albums that 2Pac fans wanted, but Afeni got 6 platinum albums from the way she ran things. How can you not call that a success?
 

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Re: Amaru's Last 2Pac album
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2011, 08:21:28 AM »
It was a success.  But at what cost?


You'd be a moron to not already know that a posthumous 2pac album would sell.  10 years from now folks will be playing all of Pac's original material, not some Jazze Pha or Frank Nitti remix with a feature that woulda only worked if Pac was alive.  Like I said, some songs are alright, but the bulk of Pac's work released after 99' isnt that great.  The instrumentals and the guest appearances are all fucked up.
 

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Re: Amaru's Last 2Pac album
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2011, 09:39:23 AM »
Jack and Leslie Johnson are where they belong. 
 

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Re: Amaru's Last 2Pac album
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2011, 11:49:35 AM »
It was a success.  But at what cost?


You'd be a moron to not already know that a posthumous 2pac album would sell.  10 years from now folks will be playing all of Pac's original material, not some Jazze Pha or Frank Nitti remix with a feature that woulda only worked if Pac was alive.  Like I said, some songs are alright, but the bulk of Pac's work released after 99' isnt that great.  The instrumentals and the guest appearances are all fucked up.

Maybe it's harsh, but this is nothing but the truth.