I Just Can't Stand The Changes...

[Big BpG]

Music sucks... I can't stand it... there is nothing more personal than timeless music, the shit we dont get anymore...

I find myself less and less actually being excited about new shit... because it's all the same... I just can't stand it. Instead I find myself listening to what I got into.. classic cube, dre and snoop... I'm not tha type of person to get into all that underground ish, because most of it,  I just dont get into it ... gone are the days when THE GOOD MUSIC IS THE POPULAR MUSIC... now the POPULAR MUSIC SUCKS...every song is produced by the neptunes... I know I make these posts every now and then, but it just builds again... I turn on the radio I hear the same ol cliche shit... from  clubs, hoes, pimps, flossing, glossing, crome spinning, escalades, mink coats, gold faucets, weed.... I just can't relate to that shit, I like to hear an artist talk..... smart.... that's what the term is for... ART-ist ... now it's fART-ist... shit sucks... of course I support my favorites... snoop, dre, nate dizzle, warren geezy, ya know, tha west... but it's the poppy shit that gets to me...I guess rap is TOO BIG now... we've already heard everything... so people think there's only one way it's going... make shit about women clapping their asses, make it clap... clap clap clap... or hooking up with boy groups to make bumpy songs.... shit sucks... yes,  it's cool to add those songs, but come on...speak ur mind... every artist now no longer is in with their times... they floss and speak their life... unlike artists who live in the concrete and see life as what it is, life...I wanna see a big man make this change.... no one will forget Pac, because Pac was real, Pac was straight real... that's what people like... and there are just too many god damn people making songs about materialistic shit... I don't care if u want a womans body to be shaped like an hourglass... why? Think about it for a sec...it's stupid shit

-Bluey

[cruzen_records]

i havent really posted anything on here but i kno wat your saying but not every rapper is no longer making good music i mean look at nas shit he is allways tight you said you didnt feel the underground maybe you should i heard some typical cats the other day and there good..... you could evan go global and get some good old aussie hip hop from ila familia

[DPG4lyfe]

i feel ya thats y im losing snoop and getting more into Bone Thugs and Mobb Deep.

[Trauma-san]

Yeah, Like I always do when you make these posts, I agree with ya.  Underground just ain't the same, I think part of enjoying music, is it being a universal thing.  Like when Dre dropped "Dre Day" GOOD GOD the whole world was into that song.  Everywhere you went, they were bumpin it, it was straight quality, the video was on, I was like 13 or something, we'd go swimming and crap and they'd be playing it.  My friends and me stole the cd from wal-mart or somewhere and played it over and over, and hid it from our parents so they wouldn't hear all the curse words.  Everybody I knew loved that song, got excited when the video was on, loved snoop, loved dre, could sing along with it, etc.  And it was quality stuff, you didn't even have to be ashamed of it or anything.

Nowadays, you got like 2 options, either you like the BULLSHIT that's on the radio and t.v. NOW, and sell the hell out and listen to some non creative crap, or 2. you can listen to underground music.  Alotta people go underground, and I respect that, but it just ain't the same when nobody else is listening to it.  To me, music is really social and I love talking about it, and singing with my friends and stuff, but with the crap on the radio today, I just can't get into it, because the quality ain't there.  the underground stuff is quality, but nobody else has heard it, so it's like there ain't nothin' going on socially with it.  Just my .02.


the last time I got excited about music, (and yall are gonna hate me for this, but I could care less), I was meeting this girl at a garage to get her car worked on, and go hang out with her for a while, I hadn't seen her for a while, and we're both white, LOL she ain't into rap.  Well, anyways, she was talking about she saw 8 mile, and was like, "Well, it was pretty good, but I ain't into rap" and I was like "Yea, that cd wasn't that great"... well, she was like "Yeah, but that guy, what's his name? 50 cent? I LOVE him!" I got pretty excited, because it was a quality song, and we both liked it and had somethin to talk about.  That's about the last time anything in rap excited me.

[West Coast Veteran]

Dr. Dre's last album was the last thing that excited me in hip hop.

[Lil Jay]

Dr. Dre's last album was the last thing that excited me in hip hop.

[Big BpG]

Alotta people go underground, and I respect that, but it just ain't the same when nobody else is listening to it.  

exactly... I love talking about music and being like.....you heard that  new Snoop shit or that new dre shit or whatever... now , sure I can be like... yo u heard that new shit... and folks will be like... oh that shit is weak now... If i listen to underground shit, people will be like... "who?" ........ it's gotta be universal, I just wanna see the return Hip Hop, the way it started

-Big BpG

[js83]

Seems like rap/hiphop music is just getting worse and worse...it just ain't the same anymore man...these days i find myself listening to old school shit all the time...

[Big BpG]

One more thing... music to me should represent it's current times... when we listen to that old west shit, we remember all that shit that went down in L.A..... the struggle these guys went through... now, since they're all rich and shit, they have no struggles...nothing... i guess it's a perfect world now... and there is nothing to be real artistic about

-Bluey

[bez]

rap/hip hop music has taken a different direction thats why.  Truth is I love everything about music, its my passion, anything I can sti there adn nod my head to and tap my feat to and sing along to I think is amazing, Whether it be pop, rap, classic, smooth, rock.  It all touches me in a way.  I love rap music and shit but at only 17 years old I still feel that I dont really know what the terms rap music means, why I am 65 years old maybe then I can say I know what rap music it but right now I dont feel like I have the right to criticise how much rap music has changed and shit becuase ya never know with the click of somebody fingers we could go back to the old school shit and shit could suck.  Evolution of music is good IMO

[S.G.V.]

Underground just ain't the same, I think part of enjoying music, is it being a universal thing.  

you can listen to underground music.  Alotta people go underground, and I respect that, but it just ain't the same when nobody else is listening to it.  

im an underground head to the fullest...i love listening to new shit...most of the cats in the underground are makin some creative ass music with new styles and different content and shit...to me its most exciting than the new eminem cd which will consist of em talkin about how he hates his mom, his ex, he got picked on etc...its like u already know whats gonna come outta his mouth...plus i like to educate(like Big Bad Ass pointed out to me) peeps on music...not that im the most knowledgeable or anything...i just feel more well-rounded than most...id like to let a up n comer shine over an already overexposed commercial rapper cuz they need it more...they care more about the music...than the money...if u took snoops big budgets away...bet...his music would be alot better...cuz hed have to make the best with what hes got...

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

That's just the way it is...Things will never be the same...

[Trauma-san]

One more thing... music to me should represent it's current times... when we listen to that old west shit, we remember all that shit that went down in L.A..... the struggle these guys went through... now, since they're all rich and shit, they have no struggles...nothing... i guess it's a perfect world now... and there is nothing to be real artistic about

-Bluey

I woulda loved to hear Dre's bin ladin diss.  

[Trauma-san]

Underground just ain't the same, I think part of enjoying music, is it being a universal thing.  

you can listen to underground music.  Alotta people go underground, and I respect that, but it just ain't the same when nobody else is listening to it.  

im an underground head to the fullest...i love listening to new shit...most of the cats in the underground are makin some creative ass music with new styles and different content and shit...to me its most exciting than the new eminem cd which will consist of em talkin about how he hates his mom, his ex, he got picked on etc...its like u already know whats gonna come outta his mouth...plus i like to educate(like Big Bad Ass pointed out to me) peeps on music...not that im the most knowledgeable or anything...i just feel more well-rounded than most...id like to let a up n comer shine over an already overexposed commercial rapper cuz they need it more...they care more about the music...than the money...if u took snoops big budgets away...bet...his music would be alot better...cuz hed have to make the best with what hes got...

Yeah, like I said, I understand where you're comin' from.  I just want somethin tha'ts universal, though.  

[budsmokeronly]

the music industry is a business.  the primary goal of a business is to earn a profit.  If u make the most wonderful product in the world, and sell it at a very cheap price, but no one really wants to buy it, then it doesn't matter how wonderful the product is.  For example, in this day in age, say I produced the most amazing vcr ever with tons of options and features, and I made it with very low costs, so I could afford to sell it for really cheap.  I still would not be making much money and selling much because vcr's are out and dvd's are in.  Who the hell would buy a  vcr nowadays, when dvd is the much better way to go.  That is why westcoast artists don't hardly get any promotion, and companies like def jam seem like they r screwing over their artists, such as warren G.  The exec's of these labels know that the type of rap music the westcoast makes is not popular now, the consumers don't want to hear it.  So why should they spend hella money on promotion for these artists?  It is a bad business move to do this.  I explained this before in a death row thread on why I thought crooked I won't drop.  Then this moron named Ready wanted to know what money has to do with promotion.  It takes promotion to sell products, but if the consumer does not want the product then it doesn't matter how much promotion u have, u still ain't gonna sell it cause the consumer doesn't want it.  Suge Knight is a very smart business man.  He didn't become filthy rich by having his head up his ass and only using intimidation to sell records.  He knows what the hell is going on.  He knows that the consumers in the rap market don't want to hear the type of music crooked I does.  This type of thing happens to every genre of music, and just about every product.  Think about how many types of music have died.  Its cause the market changes.  Remember in video games how 2-D fighters used to be all the rage, and there was tons of them on the market.  How many do u see now a days?  Remember when first person shooters had great single player games.  Now more of the focus is on multiplayer, and some don't even have a single player mode.  Sorry folks, but the type of music that we all love is dead and gone, unless you go to the underground.  Who knows, 10 years or so down the line, there may be a comeback.  Shit, transformers made a comeback, and so did He Man.  I bet u in 3 years, the only new rap that I am going to listen to will be underground, and that goes for a lot of you guys too.  I really feel sorry for artists such as E-A-Ski.  He has label difficulties, can't get any promotion, etc. but he is a talented artist, and he wants to be popular and sell hella records.  The only way he can do that is if he makes music like Nelly.  It is sad but true.  Money makes the world go round folx, and if u don't believe that then u better pass me whatever your smokin.  The exec's of the major labels don't give a shit about the artists music, they just want to make money.  The proof is in the pudding.  I think it is a safe assumption that 99.9% of us can say that WC's, Quik's, Warren G, Shade Sheist, and Bad Azz's latest albums were easily 10x better than Ja Rule's latest album.  Yet Ja Rule himself sold probably 4x as much as all those artists latest album sales combined.  My only fear is that the artists that I really like take the sell out route, or the retirement route rather than the underground route.  And one last thing, the only way for the rap music that we all enjoy to make a comeback is by spreading the word and telling your friends about it and making conversation.  If they haven't heard about that hot underground artist, then show them some songs, don't just talk about the popular music.  I do this a lot whenever I talk with people about rap.  I always show them the slept on stuff, cause the popular artists already get enough exposure.  Other people do the same on this board and bring up the underground but it seems like most of wcc sleeps on it.  Rodzilla does a great job of promoting the underground and his folx and I give him much props for that.  So if u got the attitude that u don't want to listen to the underground cause u can't relate with anybody to talk about it, then yes good rap will not see any popularity.  How do u think popularity comes about?  Look at eminem, look how long it took him to get popular.  So I say this to u guys:  don't bitch about the problem if u ain't gonna try and help solve it.  I try and do my part, by bringing up topics on hot not very heard of acts, BUYING ALBUMS, hooking up peeps with the hot underground heaters to give them a sample, and checking out recommendations given by peeps on here.  (such as that mixtape that Rodzilla put up, and u can d/l for FREE, yet the thread has only 10 or  so replies, but a thread on who is the worst westcoast rapper gets like 30 or so replies)