How can E40 afford to have so many guest appearances?

[MOBNigga06]

I bought all three of the Block Brochure albums and all of you niggas should do the same. These albums are filled with slappers. "Cutlass" is the best song to be released in 2012.

I was wondering, though: how can E40 afford to have so many guest appearances? I know this nigga says "fuck double platinum, I'm trying to go double profit." But how do you pay Twista, T-Pain, Juicy J, 2 Chainz, Spice-1, Richie Rich, Tech N9ne, C-Bo, JT, Butch Cassidy, Snoop, Daz, Kurupt, Kendrick Lamar, Raheem DeVaugn, and the list goes on and on...not to mention producers, including some high profile guys like Bangladesh.

Is it simply the case that these guys don't charge 40 for the verses because they expect a free verse in exchange?

Would be interested if anyone could clarify the economics of the situation for me...40 is a smart dude.

[D-Nice]

Favor for a favor or at the very least, a low, low price.

[papa-smurf]

I was thinking the same shit.he can't be paying all of these rappers & producers 2 be on his album.that abe 2 much money

[RingMan]

same as Tech N9ne, he is independent and his albums are selling well so he gets good money from sales

[bouli77]

a lot of the artists featured are long time collaborators and usual suspects (T-Pain, etc.) so he must be getting friendly fees from them, some artists he fucked with before they blew up nationally (Juicy J, Twista, Tech N9ne) so i don't think he paid much to get them either, probably a friendly charge too, he must have paid full price maybe for 2 Chainz who's one of the hottest artists nowadays

and then you have dudes from his camp or formerly from his camp (laroo, droop-e, b-legit, celly cel), and a lot of bay/nor cal cats that are either underground or no longer relevant (Spice 1, C-Bo, JT, Cellski) so i don't think they charged a lot of money too. snoop & dpg is pretty much family, they collaborate together very often these days, i wouldn't be surprised if those were charge-free.

i think the producers are the ones who cost the most money, especially with people like Bengladeh involved.

but then again E-40's a multi-millionaire who is always on the road and who must be getting nice residual checks every month, I don't think he has financial issues and must be breaking bread and paying the artists, i remember reading that when Malik (of Illegal fame) signed with Sick Wid It in the Mid 90's, 40 gave him a benz and rented a condo for him.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

I doubt he's paying for many, if any features from bay area rappers. It's a different culture out here. More than likely they just exchange verses for each other's projects.

[bouli77]

"Rehearse and practise, practise and rehearse
Me and Too $hort, Bun and Pimp C wouldn't charge each other to spit a verse
We all knew what we was worth, future legends up in the game"

from E-40's Lookin Back (feat. Devin the Dude)

I doubt he's paying for many, if any features from bay area rappers. It's a different culture out here. More than likely they just exchange verses for each other's projects.

right, especially since 40 is the biggest name out the bay and it's a good look for a lot of local semi famous (or not famous at all) bay rappers to be featured on a nationwide project.

[Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation)]

most industry and veteran rappers pay each other wit "verses", unless its a newbie-artist backed by a big recordlabel budget.

pretty sure, T-Pain charged E-40 tho

[bouli77]

most industry and veteran rappers pay each other wit "verses",

Bun B charged Quik $ 140k for his verse on The Book of David. Rick Ross charged Erick Sermon $40 k for a verse not too long ago (when Erick Sermon put him on Ain't SHHH to discuss in 1999, but that's another story). Young Jeezy wanted to charge Pimp C for $75 k too, that's why Pimp dissed Jeezy.

[Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation)]

u gave me 3 examples.

i said "most industry and veteran rappers pay each other wit "verses", unless its a newbie-artist backed by a big recordlabel budget."

"spur-of-the-moment hot" rappers tend to capitalize on price-tags tho,, like Lil Wayne and Rick Ross - cuz they know they can do it

[Jimmy H.]

It's not unlike the film business. A big star might be worth like 9 million a film but if they see a project that they think will be interesting and help their career, they might take a large cut in salary just to work on it. It's basically the same deal in music. If you are on a major and you have a larger budget to work with, rappers want you to break bread where if you are a younger guy on a smaller label, they might give you a better deal.

 A rapper's personal worth is irrelevant. No businessman with any real sense that is THAT deep in the game is going to pay out of his own pocket to make an album. Keep in mind. You have three different albums so chances are he got a "budget" for each one. A lot of these artists he had prior working history with. He fucked with Tech N9ne way back when so I'm sure Tech just returned the favor.

[dameons]

Post the production credits !

[MOBNigga06]

Post the production credits !

Yeah, could someone do this?

The gay thing about buying albums on iTunes is that you can't see that shit, as far as I can tell.

Or is there a way to find out producers if you buy through iTunes?

Buying through iTunes seemed to be the smartest thing to do for The Block Brochure, cuz for $25 you can get all three albums plus the six iTunes bonus tracks.

Somebody who copped the physical shit should drop the production game on us. 

[Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation)]

Post the production credits !

Yeah, could someone do this?

The gay thing about buying albums on iTunes is that you can't see that shit, as far as I can tell.

 

 

sometimes you can.
its rare tho.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

most industry and veteran rappers pay each other wit "verses", unless its a newbie-artist backed by a big recordlabel budget.

pretty sure, T-Pain charged E-40 tho

If I were T-Pain I'd do it for free. His style ain't exactly in anymore