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Bynum=triple double+gets NBA record 10 blocks in playoff game.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 02, 2012, 06:02:16 PM ---So athleticism, leaping ability, strength, ability & skill to box out & height play absolutely no role in being a rebounder. They are irrelevant attributes that make no difference in the paint.
Please, all-mighty one, explain to me the art of rebounding. I thirst for your knowledge.
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I never said jumping high doesn't factor into the equation, but there are many other factors. Like I said, who is a better rebounder, deandre Jordan or Kevin love?
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 02, 2012, 06:04:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 02, 2012, 06:02:16 PM ---So athleticism, leaping ability, strength, ability & skill to box out & height play absolutely no role in being a rebounder. They are irrelevant attributes that make no difference in the paint.
Please, all-mighty one, explain to me the art of rebounding. I thirst for your knowledge.
--- End quote ---
I never said jumping high doesn't factor into the equation, but there are many other factors. Like I said, who is a better rebounder, deandre Jordan or Kevin love?
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Oh, wise one. Please educate me with the "many" other factors outside of the five I mentioned above. I yearn for knowledge.
However, master, I have a question for you. What leads you to believe Kevin Love in a better rebounder? The fact STATISTICS tell you that he averages five more rebounds a game? Naturally we agree Kevin Love is a better rebounder because he averages more rebounds a game. Just like like if DeAndre averaged 18 rebounds a game, we'd think he's the best rebounder. But those numbers say Dwight is the best rebounder.
But in DeAndre's defense, he plays with Blake Griffin, who averages 11 a game, so "in an ideal situation where Blake Griffin wasn't playing, he'd PROBABLY (not positive, but it's as good a guess as any) would average 15 rebounds a game, making him the best rebounder in the league". Now how dumb does that sound?
Teddy Roosevelt:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 02, 2012, 04:00:32 PM ---You boys are just foolish making sports, eight second affairs. Like the last inning of Baseball or the last thirty seconds of basketball. You guys literally, not even an exaggeration, just don't count 47 minutes & 30 seconds of a game. It's actually astonishing. LeBron James has made it impossible in this series against the Knicks to show "IT" becuase he does "IT" better than anybody else in the playoffs right now & he's winning an average of 20 points per game. & Meho, get the fuck outta here lol. I've played in Baseball, Football, Basketball, Lacrosse leagues. Soccer with friends. I've probably played Hockey in more accumulated time than you've simply made your heart rate go up to 100 beats a minute & I'll include jerking off for you.
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It's not entirely about clutch factor. It's about that relentless desire to get better. Kobe has a lot of haters, but few would argue that he is the most dedicated player in the league, just like Jordan was before him.
Compare that to LeBron James in after losing the NBA Finals saying shit like this: "At the end of the day, all the people that was rooting on me to fail, at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life that they had before they woke up today. They have the same personal problems they had today. I'm going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want to do with me and my family and be happy with that.
Or making fun of Dirk for being sick right after losing a game to him in the NBA Finals.
Can you even imagine Kobe or Jordan doing or saying some shit like that? On top of that the best player in the league shouldn't be playing hot potato with the ball in the 4th quarter of the most important series in his career.
And no I don't think Bynum has that IT factor. He's just maturing, developing that mean streak and learning to be a lot more competitive.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 02, 2012, 06:13:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 02, 2012, 06:04:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 02, 2012, 06:02:16 PM ---So athleticism, leaping ability, strength, ability & skill to box out & height play absolutely no role in being a rebounder. They are irrelevant attributes that make no difference in the paint.
Please, all-mighty one, explain to me the art of rebounding. I thirst for your knowledge.
--- End quote ---
I never said jumping high doesn't factor into the equation, but there are many other factors. Like I said, who is a better rebounder, deandre Jordan or Kevin love?
--- End quote ---
Oh, wise one. Please educate me with the "many" other factors outside of the five I mentioned above. I yearn for knowledge.
However, master, I have a question for you. What leads you to believe Kevin Love in a better rebounder? The fact STATISTICS tell you that he averages five more rebounds a game? Naturally we agree Kevin Love is a better rebounder because he averages more rebounds a game. Just like like if DeAndre averaged 18 rebounds a game, we'd think he's the best rebounder. But those numbers say Dwight is the best rebounder.
But in DeAndre's defense, he plays with Blake Griffin, who averages 11 a game, so "in an ideal situation where Blake Griffin wasn't playing, he'd PROBABLY (not positive, but it's as good a guess as any) would average 15 rebounds a game, making him the best rebounder in the league". Now how dumb does that sound?
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first of all, beating peeps to spots and having a knack for knowing where the ball is coming off the rim factors a whole lot into being a good rebounder. also, timing has a lot to do with it, as well. fact is, if being athletic automatically meant being a better rebounder, then the top rebound specialists in the league would be athletic freaks, as opposed to having the athleticism of a reggie evans, who's per 36 rebounding numbers are through the roof. is joakim noah an athletic freak? zach randolph? was charles oakley jumpin out the gym? pretty sure marcus camby can barely even leave his feet, yet he is still a top rebounder...so the fact that u said "it's physically impossible for bynum to be a better rebounder because he cant do the same things physically" proves ur dumbness when it comes to analyzing basketball. all i'm sayin.
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on May 02, 2012, 06:57:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 02, 2012, 04:00:32 PM ---You boys are just foolish making sports, eight second affairs. Like the last inning of Baseball or the last thirty seconds of basketball. You guys literally, not even an exaggeration, just don't count 47 minutes & 30 seconds of a game. It's actually astonishing. LeBron James has made it impossible in this series against the Knicks to show "IT" becuase he does "IT" better than anybody else in the playoffs right now & he's winning an average of 20 points per game. & Meho, get the fuck outta here lol. I've played in Baseball, Football, Basketball, Lacrosse leagues. Soccer with friends. I've probably played Hockey in more accumulated time than you've simply made your heart rate go up to 100 beats a minute & I'll include jerking off for you.
--- End quote ---
It's not entirely about clutch factor. It's about that relentless desire to get better. Kobe has a lot of haters, but few would argue that he is the most dedicated player in the league, just like Jordan was before him.
Compare that to LeBron James in after losing the NBA Finals saying shit like this: "At the end of the day, all the people that was rooting on me to fail, at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life that they had before they woke up today. They have the same personal problems they had today. I'm going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want to do with me and my family and be happy with that.
Or making fun of Dirk for being sick right after losing a game to him in the NBA Finals.
Can you even imagine Kobe or Jordan doing or saying some shit like that? On top of that the best player in the league shouldn't be playing hot potato with the ball in the 4th quarter of the most important series in his career.
And no I don't think Bynum has that IT factor. He's just maturing, developing that mean streak and learning to be a lot more competitive.
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I understand & respect your point, but I wouldn't saying being a dick relates to who you are as a basketball player. You say "dedication", but I mean Tyler Hansborough might be more "dedicated" than Dwight Howard, but by no force on Earth do I think Tyler is a better basketball player.
LeBron does pass the ball more than he should, but at the end of the day, how many times can you say "Wow, LeBron what a stupid pass?". Plus people like NIK are the first to say LeBron is a fairly average shooter. Why should he take a shot he's only average at when he can set up a sharp shooter like Mike Miller to be wide open in a corner?
I can't "see" MJ or Kobe saying things like that because that's just not the personalities they are. Then again, they've never faced the adversity those two faced. Even post-rape Kobe didn't face heat from the fans rooting against him. LeBron has literally 90% of NBA fans against him. Like even I'm not a Kobe hater. I love Kobe. There's nothing better than watching Kobe go off & dominate a game. Check my history. First Laker/Celtic Final a few years ago, I was rooting my ass off for Kobe. Then NIK & a few other Laker fans just became Skip Bayless/Tim Tebow like with some of the shit they came up with.
Bottom line, I personally don't think there is an "IT". People are just classic prisoners of the moment & formulate opinions off of that. A-Rod was the "biggest choke in MLB history" & then one year he basically single-handedly won the Yankees a World Series, nobody said anything about it ever again. In reality it should happen for LeBron. In all likelihood, he should win three titles. Then the argument people will make for him is "imagine he won when he was younger, he could of had ten" lol. I get people who see the other side of the spectrum though.
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