Why doesn't Daz go back up

[love33]

Daz had his chance with so so def but it didn't work.

He needs better promotion though rather than just the internet.

I think Daz burned his bridges with So So Def.  JD didn't like that shit with him releasing "independent albums" while he was trying to develop a buzz and promote "So So Gangsta" -- he couldn't develop any buzz for the album with Daz releasing all the independent shit killin his own mainstream album

[Sir Petey]

You make it sound like Daz was a fucking household name.  He had some hit records but he was down with a hot label.  There's artists that were hot in 2005 that nobody is talking about anymore.

I disagree -- Daz was a household name -- Everyone was talking about "Dogg Food" after "Doggystyle" and the soundtracks Death Row were releasing.  How could you forget about "What Would U Do?" didn't that get nominated for a Grammy if I remember? That was one of the sickest songs to ever come out.  There were HUGE tracks on that album like "NY NY" (dissing the East coast -- Daz wasn't on the song but on the video), "Lets Play House," "One By One," "Reality" & "Respect" which Dr. Dre mixed but Daz produced.  After Dr. Dre was out at Tha Row, Suge & Pac were touting Daz as the main producer.  I still remember the interviews were Suge was talking about how Dre wasn't producing the tracks.  Daz's pinnacle accomplishments of his career are the multi-platinum 'Dogg Food' and being credited alongside Johnny J as the main producers behind the "All Eyez On Me" album.  Daz was considered by many in the discussion for #1 producer at one point of his career.  Also, in 1998, to my knowledge of what Suge said "Retaliation, Revenge, and Get Back" is a Gold album.  The album had song solid tracks "In California," "It Might Sound Crazy," etc.  When he got booted off Tha Row in 1999 and took a lot of his tracks and released "R.A.W."...which was a nice underground album.  "Who Ride Wt Us" was a nice record in 1999.  He followed with a couple nice underground albums, and a couple flops.  And then they had the big hit with Jay-Z "Change The Game Remix" which appeared on the DJ Clue album and Tha Dogg Pound "2002" album (which debuted #36 on the Billboard Charts, and debuted #2 on the Billboard Top Independent ALbums.)

You look at his career and they released a half notable song and video "Forever And A Day" and it didn't generate any buzz.  Other than that, as many pointed out -- he's underachieved.

a household name means a cat that transcends his lil niche no one who didnt follow gangsta rap knew daz or mack 10 lol



you think people were checking the news in the morning to see what daz did last night in the mid 90s? he never had that kind of celebrity status...might have been a household name in YOUR house.


if thats the case your household probably sucked lol

[DeeezNuuuts83]

I disagree -- Daz was a household name -- Everyone was talking about "Dogg Food" after "Doggystyle" and the soundtracks Death Row were releasing.  How could you forget about "What Would U Do?" didn't that get nominated for a Grammy if I remember? That was one of the sickest songs to ever come out.  There were HUGE tracks on that album like "NY NY" (dissing the East coast -- Daz wasn't on the song but on the video), "Lets Play House," "One By One," "Reality" & "Respect" which Dr. Dre mixed but Daz produced.

Not really.  DOGG POUND was the household name.  It's like Bone Thugs, in 1995-1996-1997.  Most people who listened to any hip-hop knew who they were and probably had one of their albums.  But could people name the members?  Likely not, outside of the more hardcore audience.

[Jimmy H.]

I'd say from a notoriety standpoint, Daz in the 90's was Bizzare from D-12 in the mid-2000's but even then, I would say Bizzare had more MTV play. This isn't a knock on nobody either but some of you are definitely remembering the 90's different from how they actually went down. Daz had a good buzz as part of Tha Dogg Pound but they weren't playing "New York, New York" or "What Would You Do?" around the clock on MTV. It might have got some spins from time to time but I'll tell you actually having a decent recollection of things that 1995's big crossover shit was "Gangster's Paradise". Dogg Food sold off the strength but it wasn't a huge crossover album in a lot of areas.

[bouli77]

1) Daz's RR&GB never went gold, even Snoop said it.

2) Daz a solo act was never a household name. Tha Dogg Pound are barely a household name in the rap game, and that's because Snoop repped it hard in his songs, otherwise they're known as Snoop's weed carrier. Daz is known primarily as the other dude from Tha Dogg Pound. Daz is however well known inside the rap game, he has collab'd with pretty much everybody, and he still collabs today (Freddie Gibbs, Curren$y, Jeezy, etc.)

3) E-40 is WAY more popular than Daz ever was. You have an entire region pledging allegiance to E-40, not to mention the impact E-40 has had on the game. besides E-40 has gold and platinum solo albums, Daz wishes he had one.

4) I missed your threads love33

[Morphine]

Dogg Food hit the charts around the world but Daz was never really famous .


gotta say , his doggy dogg world verse his best work ever. i donīt know if he wrote it but he shined there. 


thatīs about all the positive things i can think about the asshole called Daz.lol

[Okka]

over-exaggerated view of the past shit again where Mack 10, Luniz, and all these West Coast guys were these huge household names that were constantly getting played on MTV non-stop. It actually didn't happen like that though.

Luniz's "I Got 5 On It" was on MTV all the time, like there was a period when you heard that song everywhere, very big hit all around the world...

Dogg Pound's "NY NY" was played a lot too, not quite as much as the Luniz song, but people knew who they were because of Snoop, Death Row, etc.
If not the singles, a lot of people knew the album, same with Luniz's debut as well...

Mack 10 I agree wasn't as widely known, but then again a LOT of people did know "Bow Down" as a song, which he was on, so...

Damn, even my Mother loves "I Got 5 On It", you really can't compare that song with anything that Tha Dogg Pound has put out.

[Jimmy H.]

aren't you supposed to expand and become huger over the course of time??
 

Only in the literal sense.  I'm not sure where you got this theory in regards to music careers.  Apparently, you aren't familiar with the "fifteen minutes of fame" theory. Only a rare few in the business have longevity and those that do still have to deal with peaks and valleys.

Daz's strongest selling efforts were as part of Tha Dogg Pound, whose buzz was maintained through Snoop's momentum. Both they and Rage were in a great spot to be the shining new stars at Death Row but once Pac arrived, it became about building around him. By the time, he was out of the picture, things had changed too much. There was no Dr. Dre, Tupac was dead, and even Snoop was not doing business like he once did.

When Daz left Death Row, he was independent and not getting the kind of exposure one gets as part of one of the more important labels under the Interscope umbrella. I tried finding "Dillinger & Young Gotti"on the day it came out and not one record store in the area carried it. I didn't ended up tracking down a copy for months. They weren't allowed to use the name "Tha Dogg Pound" which was the moniker that sold however many million units with Dogg Food and Kurupt's name was also absent from the project. By contrast, Suge was able to put out an album, a few months later, in way more stores that featured a lot of songs already used on two or three of Daz's own DPG Recordz releases and sell more because he had better distribution and use of the name, "Tha Dogg Pound". And this is an album that wasn't even being promoted by the artists on the cover.

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Where did you live?  Dillinger & Young Gotti was available at a lot of places, as long as you weren't go to a big place like Best Buy.  I think I went to the Wherehouse and it was there.  It was easier to hunt down than R.A.W.

Speaking of which... anyone have a link to Dillinger & Young Gotti?  I had it but I accidentally broke the disc when I was in college back in 2001

[Jimmy H.]

I live in Boston.  The stores had R.A.W. and the Get Low shit he did with JT The Bigga Figga but on street date, none of them had Dillinger & Young Gotti.  Eventually, Tower Records picked it up but for awhile, nobody had it. Around 2003, more stores started carrying DPG Recordz and Gangsta Advisory, I think he got a better distributor by then.

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

Daz was never famous or marketable, Kurupt had better success even on the east coast...but Daz as a solo artist was basically unknown

[Hack Wilson - real]

Daz was never famous or marketable, Kurupt had better success even on the east coast...but Daz as a solo artist was basically unknown

he only sold 84,000 copies of RR&GB the first week


Snoop sold like a million lol

[love33]

2) Daz a solo act was never a household name. Tha Dogg Pound are barely a household name in the rap game, and that's because Snoop repped it hard in his songs, otherwise they're known as Snoop's weed carrier.
4) I missed your threads love33

Thanks bouli77.  I have to say that Daz was known as a great producer too.  Even though "Tha Dogg Pound" name carried the most weight, that was Daz & Kurupt on the cover, not Snoop -- Snoop, Dre, Suge definitely pumped the album and of course, the Interscope machine that backed Death Row.  I remember Dogg Pound doing interviews on tv to pump the album up and they had the radio in full rotation.  I remember most people thought Kurupt was the better emcee of the two when it came out -- I remember people saying "Kurupt's way better" and Kurupt had a buzz from 'Doggystyle' as being a dope emcee.  Look at G-Unit, do people just look at them as "50's gang" or do they look at guys like Game, Buck, Banks, and Yayo who have had successful albums (Game obviously stands above and beyond but Banks had two solid albums from a sales  standpoint -- I think people know who Lloyd Banks is.  So I guess it depends if you're talkin casual or hardcore rap fan.

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

Difference between g unit and dogg pound is that all of the artist had a fan base of their own, while Dogg Pound only had Snoop and Nate with mainstream success...and in 2013 tha dogg pound are only good as Snoops backup singers

[love33]

I live in Boston.  The stores had R.A.W. and the Get Low shit he did with JT The Bigga Figga but on street date, none of them had Dillinger & Young Gotti.  Eventually, Tower Records picked it up but for awhile, nobody had it. Around 2003, more stores started carrying DPG Recordz and Gangsta Advisory, I think he got a better distributor by then.

Well then that exactly proves my point and explains the skewed views.  No diss to Boston, but they catered to the Eastcoast stronghold on their radio stations for the most part.  Yeah, they played "gin and juice" and "doggy dogg world" in your territory.. but for the most part, this was at the pinnacle of the east/west rivalry and Boston was part of the East stronghold and their playlists were not filled with west artists and they def weren't spinning their second and third singles beyond the snoop and dre stuff (i.e. "Playa Hata" was a hit by Luniz, "Backyard Boogie" & "Nuthin But the Cavi Hit" were not played in the east region like they were in the midwest & west).

The midwest in the 90's catered mostly to the West Coast and the South catered half to the west and was trying to grow it's own talent but def influenced by the West.

And Daz's album "R.A.W." was at Best Buy in San Diego and L.A., and so was "2002" and "Young Gotti and Dillinger" ---- Also, Daz & Mack 10 both got a lot of radio love in the West.  In L.A., they have a station called KDAY I'm sure you heard of where Daz and Mack dime still get a substantial number of spins.

Of course you see history different you lived in a region that favored East Coast artists.  Just like if I lived in New Orleans, I'm going to hear Cash Money records 10 times more than they are already played.