Author Topic: J box presents "The G​-​Funk Remixes″  (Read 1256 times)

ThaIgk

Re: J box presents "The G​-​Funk Remixes″
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2013, 01:29:36 AM »
no it died.


i think snoop changing his name was the last nail in the casket but i do think its admirable that you guys are keeping the niche genre semi relevant

Thanks for your compliment, it feels good to hear such words. However, I have to say that such ppl like Snoop just betrayed g-funk long-long time back so the example about Snoop was a flawed example. Snoop and many other WS rappers (who repped g-funk back in the day) just betrayed this genre and started making some garbage that I don't even wanna talk and think about. G-Funk might be dead in the States, but not in Europe and Japan, that's for sure, I know what I'm talking about.

RoscoeOutlaw

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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2013, 01:13:12 PM »
damn this is fuckin dope!  8)
 

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Re: J box presents "The G​-​Funk Remixes″
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2013, 10:46:37 PM »
this is ill too

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bouli77

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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2013, 05:56:31 AM »
no it died.


i think snoop changing his name was the last nail in the casket but i do think its admirable that you guys are keeping the niche genre semi relevant

Thanks for your compliment, it feels good to hear such words. However, I have to say that such ppl like Snoop just betrayed g-funk long-long time back so the example about Snoop was a flawed example. Snoop and many other WS rappers (who repped g-funk back in the day) just betrayed this genre and started making some garbage that I don't even wanna talk and think about. G-Funk might be dead in the States, but not in Europe and Japan, that's for sure, I know what I'm talking about.

there's a life after g-funk though... just cause they ain't makin g-funk anymore doesn't mean that everything non g-funk they make is straight garbage. and a g-funk song isn't necessarily a good song, there are plenty of wack g-funk songs too even if the musical aspect of g-funk makes it easier to listen.
 

ThaIgk

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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2013, 06:14:45 AM »
no it died.


i think snoop changing his name was the last nail in the casket but i do think its admirable that you guys are keeping the niche genre semi relevant

Thanks for your compliment, it feels good to hear such words. However, I have to say that such ppl like Snoop just betrayed g-funk long-long time back so the example about Snoop was a flawed example. Snoop and many other WS rappers (who repped g-funk back in the day) just betrayed this genre and started making some garbage that I don't even wanna talk and think about. G-Funk might be dead in the States, but not in Europe and Japan, that's for sure, I know what I'm talking about.

there's a life after g-funk though... just cause they ain't makin g-funk anymore doesn't mean that everything non g-funk they make is straight garbage. and a g-funk song isn't necessarily a good song, there are plenty of wack g-funk songs too even if the musical aspect of g-funk makes it easier to listen.

I didn't said that all the g-funk songs are gope because they belong to g-funk. Not at all !!! I don't like many g-funk songs and many of those were because I don't feel them or they're wack ;)

Scrappy Doo

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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2013, 06:50:49 AM »
The only real problem with the French G-Funk producers is that they go way to much into the smooth G-funk directions (beats that wanna sound like Quik post 96) they totally forget about the early G-Funk sound that was heavy till 95. Im talking about the P-Funk inspired sound that u can hear on the Chronic. In French G-Funk its all about smooth keys and some Talkbox (from mostly mediocre players). Its cool that they still keep it going but they need to do more with it.
 

ThaIgk

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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2013, 08:01:30 AM »
The only real problem with the French G-Funk producers is that they go way to much into the smooth G-funk directions (beats that wanna sound like Quik post 96) they totally forget about the early G-Funk sound that was heavy till 95. Im talking about the P-Funk inspired sound that u can hear on the Chronic. In French G-Funk its all about smooth keys and some Talkbox (from mostly mediocre players). Its cool that they still keep it going but they need to do more with it.

As for me, it's not a problem but the good thing that French g-funk producers stick to the smooth G-Funk. So it's just a matter of taste and I'm really cool with it. I got many G-Funk CD's in my collection but until now I didn't bother to have Chronic cd in my collection because I really like a like of tracks out of it, so I bought the CD single with the tracks that I liked and that's it with the Chronic. However, I don't doubt that it's a great g-funk album, it really is, without any doubt, but again, it's just a matter of taste.
I think it's good that some French G-Funk producers do what they feel - if they feel they wanna do smother g-funk, let em do it and it won't be good if they're forced to make it harder. However, there are some other French G-Funk producers that do more P-Funk inspired sound and other heavier type of g-funk, you just probably don't know abt them.

Here are only few examples:











I repeat the above are just very few examples. I have a pretty big French G-Funk CD collection so I know what I'm talking about. But yeah major part of French G-Funk producer has been keeping ther g-funk beats smooth.

MistaLogos

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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2013, 08:45:55 AM »
there's a life after g-funk though...

yep, but I don't want to live this life. there was a right way the modern wescoast sound should sound like, but those fools preffered stupid Lil Jon and Lil Wayne style. now everybody in digital era got a computer and FL studio, they filled the area around the people who was smth in the game, but they can't create smth good. OG way to make music is forgotten
I stucked with g-funk and I'm proud of it. nothing can make me change my mind. I better listen to sum good old g-funk than sum garbage.

not every g-funk track produced from France is smooth, there are also Makavelik, G-Dogg and Young G. But that just a metter of taste and choice where and what to listen. people around me prefer laid-back style. rough tracks I bumping alone or in the morning with a headphones when I don't want to fall asleep LOL

Scrappy Doo

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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2013, 09:17:35 AM »
The only real problem with the French G-Funk producers is that they go way to much into the smooth G-funk directions (beats that wanna sound like Quik post 96) they totally forget about the early G-Funk sound that was heavy till 95. Im talking about the P-Funk inspired sound that u can hear on the Chronic. In French G-Funk its all about smooth keys and some Talkbox (from mostly mediocre players). Its cool that they still keep it going but they need to do more with it.

As for me, it's not a problem but the good thing that French g-funk producers stick to the smooth G-Funk. So it's just a matter of taste and I'm really cool with it. I got many G-Funk CD's in my collection but until now I didn't bother to have Chronic cd in my collection because I really like a like of tracks out of it, so I bought the CD single with the tracks that I liked and that's it with the Chronic. However, I don't doubt that it's a great g-funk album, it really is, without any doubt, but again, it's just a matter of taste.
I think it's good that some French G-Funk producers do what they feel - if they feel they wanna do smother g-funk, let em do it and it won't be good if they're forced to make it harder. However, there are some other French G-Funk producers that do more P-Funk inspired sound and other heavier type of g-funk, you just probably don't know abt them.

Here are only few examples:











I repeat the above are just very few examples. I have a pretty big French G-Funk CD collection so I know what I'm talking about. But yeah major part of French G-Funk producer has been keeping ther g-funk beats smooth.



Dude, im not talking about Harder...for example Tiz-on Recordz CD got George Clinton on the cover but the music is nothing like Parliament-Funkdalic (or any other of Georges Bands). And just so you know im a big French G-Funk fan (got all Aealpeacha and Dogg Master albums). But the tracks sound all the same its always the same Talkbox (and you gotta admin that the Talkbox players arent that good) over some lame Zapp-wanna-be-beats. Ofcourse there are great Producers over there like Aelpeacha but the majority is just shit.
 

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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2013, 09:41:44 AM »
Talkboxing exhausting itself, I agree, last man who created smth was DJ AK maybe, but first he braught was sounding that the others were afraid of. The only thing you can invent in g-funk is music. Thats what Fingazz did in his last album, talkboxing wasn't the aim of the album. People like DJ AK, Docc Free, Sovan, maybe Dogg Master and Aelpeacha already brought smth new to g-funk music. They are current geniuses if you can think deep and through historical aspect. Maybe J Box is the next one, who knows, just saying, he was recognized and now he's going up and up...

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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2013, 09:51:43 AM »
The only real problem with the French G-Funk producers is that they go way to much into the smooth G-funk directions (beats that wanna sound like Quik post 96) they totally forget about the early G-Funk sound that was heavy till 95. Im talking about the P-Funk inspired sound that u can hear on the Chronic. In French G-Funk its all about smooth keys and some Talkbox (from mostly mediocre players). Its cool that they still keep it going but they need to do more with it.


totally agreed dog, on chronic and uncle sams curse they were using breakbeats and a p funk sample as the skeleton of the beat and it sounded rugged and smooth at the same time and i miss that shit alot.

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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2013, 09:53:29 AM »
lets keep it real though....those are jazz instrumentals most of the time.


i like em. but like homeboy said too many cats trying to be too smooth with it....thats when it turns into jazz music basically.

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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2013, 10:25:07 AM »
Maybe just because Roger & Zapp are still the most popular and sampled. Still sounding good btw while Parliament/Funkadelic sounding going harder for perception.

I think the last album you should love from what I read must be King T - IV Life, yea, thats the hard sound I missing too, but it was based on sampling which they got rid off in 95-96 when critics started to blame too much sampling. And those were the golden ages for g-funk. Thats why many producers based their sound on it, because it 100% creation of the mind, not just sample-resample-once again the same sample...

btw, I can't imagine somebody recreate the hard parliament/funkadelic sounding now. I got the idea about the beat, but IMO the beat is not that important in g-funk, it could be any type...

I got nothing against jazz, it was a part of hip-hop for many years.

Scrappy Doo

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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2013, 10:26:06 AM »
lets keep it real though....those are jazz instrumentals most of the time.


i like em. but like homeboy said too many cats trying to be too smooth with it....thats when it turns into jazz music basically.

Man i dont wanna brag or anything but i listen to alotta P-Funk/Boogie/Jazz (especially that funky jazz stuff like Jazz-Funk, Acid Jazz even some Jazz fusion eventhou thats basicly Rock Jazz i still like it cause the dudes play some sick shit) and what those French guys are doing is nothin compared to that if you wanna hear G-Funk mixed with some dope arrangements with a modern twist listen to the new "Modern Funk" movement. Many people heard about Dam-Funk but he is baisly just the tip of the Iceberg there are so many other cats out there, and they are mixing the old G-Funk sound with Boom Bap and its amazing. Here is what i think is the MAIN problem with G-Funk and G-Funk fans, after the whole Snoop Renaissance faded away (Im talking about Eastsidaz/Dogg House days where Snoop and his crew still used to pick G-Funk beats) we didnt get ANY G-Funk for years. So after all that stuff blew up over there in France mixed with that Chicano Rap thing coming outta Southern Cali people went baaanannnaaaas cause they finally got some new G-Funk and from then till now weve been praising ANYTHING that got a G-Funk lead in it. I mean i see youtube videos from garbage G-funk beatmakers (yes im talking about Productofthe90s and guys like him) that people praise like its the Chronic 2. We need to start critizing stuff that is just mediocre. So if its cool praise it but if its wack just say it is...thats how well get good stuff again.
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« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2013, 11:42:11 PM »
there's a life after g-funk though...

yep, but I don't want to live this life. there was a right way the modern wescoast sound should sound like, but those fools preffered stupid Lil Jon and Lil Wayne style. now everybody in digital era got a computer and FL studio, they filled the area around the people who was smth in the game, but they can't create smth good. OG way to make music is forgotten
I stucked with g-funk and I'm proud of it. nothing can make me change my mind. I better listen to sum good old g-funk than sum garbage.

not every g-funk track produced from France is smooth, there are also Makavelik, G-Dogg and Young G. But that just a metter of taste and choice where and what to listen. people around me prefer laid-back style. rough tracks I bumping alone or in the morning with a headphones when I don't want to fall asleep LOL

you make it sound as if G-Funk were the only viable rap genre, as if everything outside g-funk was garbage, which isn't the case.

I agree with what's been said, most G-Funk producers are too smooth and repetitive, and it sounds like Smooth Jazz or quiet storm, but I like it a lot though, and that's their style. On occasion it's perfect but I don't bump that shit 24/7.

a lot of french talkboxers are average, but some are good, I'm talking about Espe, Doggmaster & DJ AK. the cliché lyrics that come with them are terrible though : "cruisin in my 64" etc. lmao