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whoisthis:
Again, bud, you cannot generalize and think someone won't call you on it. Generalizing is not a fact. Fact is LeBron plays Mid-Range and Out more so than in the paint. If this was the 80s or even the 90s when teams would trot out the likes of Cedric Maxwell and Anthony Mason at the 3, I'd say you have a case. But, LeBron, KD etc. have changed the position into more wing than pivot. More backcourt than front. This a fact. So, to generalize, you are not telling the whole story.
Sure, on average, the bigger you are, the more rebounds you get. Therefore, Kobe is, on average, a worse rebounder than Westbrook, Kidd and Rondo. Are you OK with this brodie?
As for things getting "stretch as a mutha around here." All I did was point out where you made some key mistakes and where you slip in the "until" part for LeBron's game 6. That is not a stretch, it's a fact.
You do realize that LeBron played over 40 minutes and Diaw played less than 16 per game, right? LeBron was guarded like that and he had games of 33, 25, 32 and 37. If Kobe can score 50 points in 15 minutes, well then just give Kobe the Scoring Title now. He was defended this way because there was very little spacing on the floor which allowed for Diaw to get help. Remember that whenever Wade was on the floor, which was in the high 30s, the Spurs packed the paint.
There only dancing I've seen here was by you. You bring up an example, I counter it, you change the subject. I've shown you that your facts are skewed, but you've danced around that.
Kobe doesn't get calls, LeBron does >>> Numbers to show otherwise >>> You Dance.
LeBron doesn't shoot as well as Kobe >>> Numbers to show otherwise >>> You Dance.
Small Forwards shoot better because they play in the paint more >>> Numbers to show otherwise >>> You Dance.
LeBron had terrible shooting games >>> Numbers to show Kobe's bad shooting >>> You Dance.
It goes on. If this is your game, you need to think about changing your game to Golf.
Weak examples by the way: Shaq to MJ, Magic to MJ. Sorry cud.
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--- Quote from: whoisthis on August 05, 2013, 09:49:45 PM ---Again, bud, you cannot generalize and think someone won't call you on it. Generalizing is not a fact. Fact is LeBron plays Mid-Range and Out more so than in the paint. If this was the 80s or even the 90s when teams would trot out the likes of Cedric Maxwell and Anthony Mason at the 3, I'd say you have a case. But, LeBron, KD etc. have changed the position into more wing than pivot. More backcourt than front. This a fact. So, to generalize, you are not telling the whole story.
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I STARTED OUT THINKIN UR A QUALITY POSTER, BUT UR ACTUALLY QUITE SLOW IF U DONT GET WHAT IM SAYING BY NOW
http://www.82games.com/1213/12MIA9.HTM
LEBRON JAMES=35% OF HIS SHOTS COME INSIDE THEN ANOTHER 27%=COMES CLOSE TO THE BASKET WITH 7% BEING DUNKS
http://www.82games.com/1011/10LAL5.HTM
IN COMPARISON, KOBE=15% OF HIS SHOTS COME INSIDE THEN ANOTHER 14%=COMES CLOSE TO THE BASKET WITH 2% BEING DUNKS
NOW DO LIKE DUBEE AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND MEEEEE, CUZ U ACTIN HELLA DUMB RIGHT NOW.....NO OFFENSE AT ALL, BUT IF U DONT SEE THAT THOSE STATS FIT MY CLAIM OF LEBRON PLAYING THE TRADITIONAL SMALL FORWARD STYLE, WHILE KOBE IS GENERALLY PLAYING LIKE A SHOOTING GUARD, THEN U REALLY DONT NEED TO BE REPLYING. U CAN REALIZE THIS BY NOTING TO URSELF THAT THE MORE EXCITED U GET YOUNG CHAM, THE DUMBER UR POSTS ARE.
--- Quote from: whoisthis on August 05, 2013, 09:49:45 PM ---Sure, on average, the bigger you are, the more rebounds you get. Therefore, Kobe is, on average, a worse rebounder than Westbrook, Kidd and Rondo. Are you OK with this brodie?
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DAMN, REALLY?? THATS GROUNDBREAKING...AND LEBRON IS A WORSE PASSER THAN RONDO, A WORSE SHOOTER THAN RAY ALLEN, A WORSE BALL-HANDLER THAN CHRIS PAUL, AND A WORSE POST PLAYER THAN BROOK LOPEZ......ARE WE STATING THE OBVIOUS HERE? WHAT IS THIS NOW??
--- Quote from: whoisthis on August 05, 2013, 09:49:45 PM ---As for things getting "stretch as a mutha around here." All I did was point out where you made some key mistakes and where you slip in the "until" part for LeBron's game 6. That is not a stretch, it's a fact.
You do realize that LeBron played over 40 minutes and Diaw played less than 16 per game, right? LeBron was guarded like that and he had games of 33, 25, 32 and 37. If Kobe can score 50 points in 15 minutes, well then just give Kobe the Scoring Title now. He was defended this way because there was very little spacing on the floor which allowed for Diaw to get help. Remember that whenever Wade was on the floor, which was in the high 30s, the Spurs packed the paint.
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POINT IS, FOR THOSE 16 MINUTES, BORIS DIAW WAS GUARDING LEBRON JAMES 1-ON-1 WITH A 5 FOOT CUSHION....THERES NO WAY THE ALLEGED BEST PLAYER IN THE WOLRD SHOULD BE DEFENDED LIKE THAT.......IN THE FINALS. NOT EVEN FOR 2 MINUTES....BUT IT HAPPENED....AND WHY DID IT HAPPEN? BECAUSE LEBRON WAS PLAYING POOR OFFENSIVELY TO THE POINT POPOVICH WASNT EVEN WORRIED ABOUT HIM FROM A SCORING STANDPOINT! U CAN REST ASSURE THAT A KOBE BRYANT OR A MICHAEL JORDAN WOULD NEVER... EVEERRRR...EVEREVEREVER BE GUARDED BY BORIS DIAW IN THE FINALS.... WITH SINGLE COVERAGE LOL. JUST ADMIT IT AND MOVE ALONG, IT AINT THAT HARD.
whoisthis:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on August 06, 2013, 12:17:32 PM ---
I STARTED OUT THINKIN UR A QUALITY POSTER, BUT UR ACTUALLY QUITE SLOW IF U DONT GET WHAT IM SAYING BY NOW
http://www.82games.com/1213/12MIA9.HTM
LEBRON JAMES=35% OF HIS SHOTS COME INSIDE THEN ANOTHER 27%=COMES CLOSE TO THE BASKET WITH 7% BEING DUNKS
http://www.82games.com/1011/10LAL5.HTM
IN COMPARISON, KOBE=15% OF HIS SHOTS COME INSIDE THEN ANOTHER 14%=COMES CLOSE TO THE BASKET WITH 2% BEING DUNKS
NOW DO LIKE DUBEE AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND MEEEEE, CUZ U ACTIN HELLA DUMB RIGHT NOW.....NO OFFENSE AT ALL, BUT IF U DONT SEE THAT THOSE STATS FIT MY CLAIM OF LEBRON PLAYING THE TRADITIONAL SMALL FORWARD STYLE, WHILE KOBE IS GENERALLY PLAYING LIKE A SHOOTING GUARD, THEN U REALLY DONT NEED TO BE REPLYING. U CAN REALIZE THIS BY NOTING TO URSELF THAT THE MORE EXCITED U GET YOUNG CHAM, THE DUMBER UR POSTS ARE.
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Oh no! I'm no longer considered a quality poster by you. The sorrow! The pain! The agony...
Anyway. I've stated that LeBron goes to the rim more than Kobe. I never said he didn't. You contend that it's based on LeBron's position that he shoots better. Top 10 Players for Attempts at the Rim: 5 Centers. 1 PF. 2 SF. 1 SG & 1 PG. That second SF? Carmelo. And he shot under 45% for the season. It's not because of Position. It's not ONLY because of playing in the paint. Because if that was the case, then guys like Kenneth Faried and Thaddeus Young should have higher shooting percentages.
So, see, when you generalize things, you don't actually get the whole picture. Is LeBron's shooting percentage higher because he's able to get to rim more? Sure. Is that the only reason why? No. Not at all. He put up 250+ 3's. There is not a Small Forward in the league, or any player ever, who has done what LeBron did last year.
I'll lower the FG% to 50. There was quite a few instances of players shooting over 50% and putting up at least 250 3's. 0 Centers. 0 PF. 4 SF. 5 SG. 4 PG. So, as you can see, more Shooting Guards averaged over 50 or better from the field and put up at least 250 3's than Small Forwards.
So do like Dubee and please understand meeeeeeeee, cuz you actin' hella dumb right now. You've generalized and it hasn't worked. LeBron is not a traditional SF. His shooting percentage has less to do with position and far more to do with the higher percentage shots (be it at the Rim or Jumpers).
--- Quote ---DAMN, REALLY?? THATS GROUNDBREAKING...AND LEBRON IS A WORSE PASSER THAN RONDO, A WORSE SHOOTER THAN RAY ALLEN, A WORSE BALL-HANDLER THAN CHRIS PAUL, AND A WORSE POST PLAYER THAN BROOK LOPEZ......ARE WE STATING THE OBVIOUS HERE? WHAT IS THIS NOW??
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OOOH so obvious examples and correlations you don't like? But, you were OK with comparing guys who rarely worked outside of 10 Feet of the Rim as a way of proving your point for FG% right? See, you contradict yourself far too much. First, it's "Well Shaq shot better than Jordan" and "The bigger you are the more rebounds you get." But, when comparisons are then put on to Kobe it's "Gee, how obvious!" Point is, you said that with size, on average, comes better rebounding. I showed you otherwise. Instead of addressing it, you try to change the subject. Doesn't work like that.
--- Quote ---POINT IS, FOR THOSE 16 MINUTES, BORIS DIAW WAS GUARDING LEBRON JAMES 1-ON-1 WITH A 5 FOOT CUSHION....THERES NO WAY THE ALLEGED BEST PLAYER IN THE WOLRD SHOULD BE DEFENDED LIKE THAT.......IN THE FINALS. NOT EVEN FOR 2 MINUTES....BUT IT HAPPENED....AND WHY DID IT HAPPEN? BECAUSE LEBRON WAS PLAYING POOR OFFENSIVELY TO THE POINT POPOVICH WASNT EVEN WORRIED ABOUT HIM FROM A SCORING STANDPOINT! U CAN REST ASSURE THAT A KOBE BRYANT OR A MICHAEL JORDAN WOULD NEVER... EVEERRRR...EVEREVEREVER BE GUARDED BY BORIS DIAW IN THE FINALS.... WITH SINGLE COVERAGE LOL. JUST ADMIT IT AND MOVE ALONG, IT AINT THAT HARD.
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Sure, Diaw defended LeBron well. But, Pop didn't do that because he wasn't worried. He did that because he had no other choice. LeBron had his way in games 4-7 with all the other defenders. Big difference. He gambled because the spacing worked in the Spurs favor. They could provide an additional defender if needed and they were still able to pack the paint, forcing LeBron to either pass or take a bad shot. Yet, LeBron still had great games. Again, you're not telling the whole story.
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