Can't fuck with rap anymore

[Fonkarround]

Established rappers aint got nothin to say no more. I mean nothin that people can relate to - while they were coming up, they knew what was goin on, people understood them + they were good at what they did.
Look at Eminem - when he was debuting, he had the image, people liked what he was talkin about, and the way he was doing it. And look at Relapse or Recovery - who gives a fuck about him coming out of a drug abuse or any shit like that?
Cube stay real tho, he speaks his mind still - if it just wasnt for wack beats.


And theres too many new rappers aint talkin about shit either - thats why they will be forgotten in couple of years.

[Sccit]

there are still good rap releases comin out....u just have 2 look for em

[MistaNova]

I think this is a problem a lot of veteran rappers have. Recycling old verses, using the same content over and over and not really developing as an artist.
I wonder if this is a matter of them being too lazy to come up with content or them being too afraid to come out of their comfort zone that they've been in (and have been successful in) for so long.
Like how many rappers have we seen go from rapping about sex, drugs and money to being a dad (or mom) and taking responsibilty?

Come to think about it, I also wonder how much the rappers themselves believe they're the alter-ego they've created and claim to be on records? Like I'm sure no one believes that Delmar Arnaud is actually some hardcore gangsta, but his alter ego Daz Dillinger keeps saying that is on every record. Same with Kurupt. Ricardo Brown is not a gangsta, but Kurupt is in whatever world all these alter-egos live in.
I'm starting to think a lot of these rappers have split personality disorders.

[Fonkarround]

I think this is a problem a lot of veteran rappers have. Recycling old verses, using the same content over and over and not really developing as an artist.
I wonder if this is a matter of them being too lazy to come up with content or them being too afraid to come out of their comfort zone that they've been in (and have been successful in) for so long.
Like how many rappers have we seen go from rapping about sex, drugs and money to being a dad (or mom) and taking responsibilty?

Come to think about it, I also wonder how much the rappers themselves believe they're the alter-ego they've created and claim to be on records? Like I'm sure no one believes that Delmar Arnaud is actually some hardcore gangsta, but his alter ego Daz Dillinger keeps saying that is on every record. Same with Kurupt. Ricardo Brown is not a gangsta, but Kurupt is in whatever world all these alter-egos live in.
I'm starting to think a lot of these rappers have split personality disorders.

Man if you would be about to rap, what would you do? start rhymin bout cooking?


I wouldnt call it personality disorder, its completly normal that when you are with a girl you act diffrent than with your friends or with your family - same goes for rap - its a street music, you get into that vibe, and rappers just spit to that. Thats why eg. Drake aint shit and got nothing to do with rap, i still dont know why hip-hop sites are making news about him.

[whoisthis]

Honestly I can't check for these same guys we used to listen to. Who's really bumping some new Kurupt? Still waiting on Crooked I? Did he finally drop an album? Who wants to hear these guys rap about the hood and struggles anymore? These guys have to have real jobs, there's no way they're making a living off this shit. And shame on you all for buying this half hearted, less than mediocre garbage. It's not what it used to be. It's the exact same. That's what's wrong. It's the same shit, these guys have not evolved and it's old. The only reason we liked it is because it was the first time they said it. Too Short said it, about making 1000 songs and 15 albums.

The only new guys worth checking are Kendrick and Dom Kennedy. I can't believe people are on here discussing a new Spice 1 album, or Rappin' 4-Tay. Really? Find some new, real music.

I agree. Not sure what people get out of listening to Spice-1 and guys like that these days, but it's their choice. It's their preference. I can say I don't agree, but then I just move on.

[Remedy360]

There's still plenty of quality shit out there though. Just because the gangsta rap we grew up on has fallen off doesn't mean that rap in general isn't worth listening to.

[TRAX (SFV)]

Rap since the 80's has been about persona/alter ego.  To me it matters if it's believable or not.  They get these MC's posin with riches and diamonds and shit on their first album.  Yea right.  NWA may not have always done what they rapped about, but man they had me fooled! 

Yea I'm tired of hearing about girls/pimpin/weed/money/club/drink shit.  I guess they think that's what their fans wanna hear.  At least when Suga Free or Afroman do it, it's got humor in it and it's entertaining. 

Now MC's who tell it like it is like Cube or Public Enemy don't rap about all that because there's always new problems going on in the world. I love Cube's "Everythang's Corrupt" idea.  Truth.  PE's last two albums are the best they've done in years.  And KRS-ONE is still out there being himself.

[MistaNova]

Man if you would be about to rap, what would you do? start rhymin bout cooking?

I don't blame new young rappers trying to establish their brands and identities saying "gangsta shit this, coke and bitches that" since that's where 99% of new rappers start out when they don't have a face yet. I remember Wiz Khalifa was on that shit on his early tapes before he decided to rap only about weed.
But rappers like Daz, Kurupt, Snoop etc... are all old men using the same taglines they've used since they first dropped out of high school (or college?). At this point in their lives they should be on that grown man shit but yet they still sound like they're still in juvy, at least on their records. I mean look at K Dot aka Kendrick Lamar. He went from the tough guy Lil Wayne wannabe to just being himself, he even changed his stage name to his real name.
Which is why I was wondering if they're stuck in the roles that their alter-egos are in, as the "hardcore gangsta who never sleeps" or if they're not willing to move on from what made them successful in the first place. Granted they don't necessarily have to move on as whatever they want to record is their prerogative, but it would be a nice change of pace to see these rappers be more like who they really are and not what they were decades ago.

And personally I think a rapper who raps about cooking would be dope. His subject matter would be limited, but at the very least it'd be practical.

I wouldnt call it personality disorder, its completly normal that when you are with a girl you act diffrent than with your friends or with your family - same goes for rap - its a street music, you get into that vibe, and rappers just spit to that. Thats why eg. Drake aint shit and got nothing to do with rap, i still dont know why hip-hop sites are making news about him.

I suppose that's true. I'm just curious if some rappers get so caught up in their act that they actually start believing they're what they claim they are on wax.
As for Drake hip-hop sites talk about him since well, there's nothing else in hip hop to talk about (has anything remotely notable happened in the hip hop world other than the Control thing recently?). I personally like a few of his songs (he's not great but you could do a whole lot worse, I guess) but I think he'd be a lot better if he had come onto the scene just being himself. A light-skinned dude who came from a nice neighborhood in Toronto. Granted that would probably be boring to a lot of folks, but at the same time he'd be honest and "real" since he'd actually be himself. Unforunately he had to sign with Young Money and go around telling people that he started from the bottom. Oh what wasted potential.