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Quote from: Infinite on September 27, 2013, 07:09:24 AMStill I Rise - Everyone was satisfied with this one as well. The remixes only made the album better, in my opinion. The Outlawz must of made a fortune off this one. I know Suge signed them at some point, I wonder if it was for the purpose of their work on this album and other Pac posthumous albums. They were already on a lot of tracks, and when you add them to other Pac tracks it makes it sound authentic since they were his crew when he was alive. I think Death Row was responsible for this one.Until The End of Time - Again, everyone was satisfied with this album, I know I was. I couldn't believe that 4 years after his Death they were still able to compile a double album of his material that was as good or better than anything else coming out at the time. I think Johnny J deserves a lot of credit for Pac's posthumous work. Again, the remixes only made the album sound better... aside from Lil Mo', I think most everybody used on the album was someone Pac would of worked with while he was alive. They stayed true to Pac's vision, it was like a real Pac album. Not sure if Death Row or Amaru was responsible for this?Death Row manage and market this projects. Still I Rise contains Death Row remixes and some songs arranged/remixed by the late Johnny J. Suge got the rights of every songs while The Outlawz were signed on Death Row when the project was made. But Interscope recorded it without the Death Row imprint. Then, Afeni Shakur wanted Cold 187Um as supervisor for Until The End Of Time, that's why a lot of tracks where produced by Death Row staff (Damon Thomas, Cold 187Um, Darren Vages, Jim Gettum, Crooked I) while Cold 187Um, Death Row VP, mixed 50% of the album. It wasn't the same thang with "Better Dayz" handled by Amaru, without any Tha Row remixes (then Tha Row Hitters worked on Greatest Hits: Nu Mixes For The Streets, released as Nu-Mixx Klazzics)
Still I Rise - Everyone was satisfied with this one as well. The remixes only made the album better, in my opinion. The Outlawz must of made a fortune off this one. I know Suge signed them at some point, I wonder if it was for the purpose of their work on this album and other Pac posthumous albums. They were already on a lot of tracks, and when you add them to other Pac tracks it makes it sound authentic since they were his crew when he was alive. I think Death Row was responsible for this one.Until The End of Time - Again, everyone was satisfied with this album, I know I was. I couldn't believe that 4 years after his Death they were still able to compile a double album of his material that was as good or better than anything else coming out at the time. I think Johnny J deserves a lot of credit for Pac's posthumous work. Again, the remixes only made the album sound better... aside from Lil Mo', I think most everybody used on the album was someone Pac would of worked with while he was alive. They stayed true to Pac's vision, it was like a real Pac album. Not sure if Death Row or Amaru was responsible for this?
I think the posthumous problems were inevitable as everyone has their own opinions and ways of remembering Pac. We were never going to get "classic" albums because there wasn't a cohesive artistic mind behind it. If Pac were alive in 2001-02, he wouldn't be putting out albums full of random songs he recorded in 1994-96, his subject matter would have evolved to him addressing newer things. He did have a great deal of gems in the vault but they were never going to equal "albums". They would be "collections". I THINK "Until The End of Time" was the first time I can recall just being disappointed with the process because having been privy to the bootlegged material that they ended up remixing for the album, some of them songs just sounded terrible and still do. I actually remember making my own solo disc of songs I liked off that project, just so I didn't have to sit through listening to what they did to songs like "When We Ride on Our Enemies".
i wonder why they released all his posthumous work as double discs? imagine, they coulda split all those into 2 releases instead of 1, which woulda seemed even more impressive.
very true but R U Still Down was worthy of being a double disc CD. That was one of the most amazing Pac albums and I actually prefer it to Strictly 4 My Niggaz.
That is why we won't see any more Pac albums. No money to be made.
solid thread here... I'd rank those albums this way:Better DayzStill I RiseUntil The End Of TimeR U Still DownPac's LifeLoyal To The Game
Quote from: Mo-D on October 01, 2013, 05:48:28 PMThat is why we won't see any more Pac albums. No money to be made.Only thing left to do is release the original versions in CDQ. That may well be the smartest move in hip hop music for the last few years as the sales would go through the roof. I can imagine a big boxset with all untouched originals selling into the millions.
I didn't like any of Pac's stuff being remixed, however, i thought they did a decent job on everything up to and including "Still I Rise". I was mad when "Secretz of War" came out remixed on that album though. Their formula used to be to remix a few songs and touch up the rest, leaving them close to OG.As soon as UNTIL THE END OF TIME came out, that's when everything went south, beginning with the title track with the sampled "Broken Wings" beat in which Pac's voice was horribly offbeat, it all went downhill after that. From that album on, it was "remix everything, maybe leave one or two songs close to OG" instead of the other way around.As much as i liked "Changes" I do think it was detrimental in that Afeni felt everything needed to be remixed because she found success ONE TIME remixing a song like this. It worked once, all the other remixes since then were worse for the most part.
Quote from: BloodMoneyMane on October 01, 2013, 11:09:48 PMsolid thread here... I'd rank those albums this way:Better DayzStill I RiseUntil The End Of TimeR U Still DownPac's LifeLoyal To The Game "better dayz" and "until the end of time" over "r u still down"?