Author Topic: suge helped executive produce biggies ready to die ?  (Read 655 times)

Sir Petey

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Posts: 7634
  • Thanked: 5 times
  • Karma: 714
  • ♛ bitch I'm flawless ♛
suge helped executive produce biggies ready to die ?
« on: November 26, 2013, 01:11:12 PM »
 "When they did the Biggie album, I helped them with that fucking record," he says. I let Puff use every [The Chronic] sample on [Ready to Die], the hottest record of all time, and didn’t charge them. To show some love. Like here. It ain’t shit."

bouli77

Re: suge helped executive produce biggies ready to die ?
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2013, 01:13:03 PM »
"When they did the Biggie album, I helped them with that fucking record," he says. I let Puff use every [The Chronic] sample on [Ready to Die], the hottest record of all time, and didn’t charge them. To show some love. Like here. It ain’t shit."

do you have the full excerpt ? cause here suge simply says that he cleared the chronic samples for free.
 

Will_B

  • Guest
Re: suge helped executive produce biggies ready to die ?
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2013, 01:22:56 PM »
"When they did the Biggie album, I helped them with that fucking record," he says. I let Puff use every [The Chronic] sample on [Ready to Die], the hottest record of all time, and didn’t charge them. To show some love. Like here. It ain’t shit."

do you have the full excerpt ? cause here suge simply says that he cleared the chronic samples for free.

Don't spoil his moment :'(
 

Sir Petey

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Posts: 7634
  • Thanked: 5 times
  • Karma: 714
  • ♛ bitch I'm flawless ♛
Re: suge helped executive produce biggies ready to die ?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2013, 02:22:46 PM »
according to suge nothing came out in that era that he wasnt involved with in some way or some shape.





Hack Wilson - real

Re: suge helped executive produce biggies ready to die ?
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2013, 05:19:29 PM »
Suge shoulda had puffy killed instead of Biggie
 

DeeezNuuuts83

Re: suge helped executive produce biggies ready to die ?
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2013, 06:08:29 PM »
Suge shoulda had puffy killed instead of Biggie
Not that killing people is okay, but while that would've been a happier ending, it would've been a much bigger pain in the ass to deal with.  Biggie was a rapper, an artist; Puffy was a record executive.  Whether he's black or white, it won't matter in that case.  When you take out the head of a business, even if it is a hip-hop record label, there's going to be a much larger investigation, and not just some shit swept under the rug, like in the case of Pac, Biggie, Big L, Freaky Tah, Proof, etc.  An exec getting knocked off leading to the business losing its main go-to guy leads to far more inquiries... lots of suits will swarm on it, determining what happens with the assets, tax liabilities, leadership, release schedule, etc., not to mention various agencies and organizations getting in the mix (i.e. the State, IRS, law enforcement, FBI, the heads of the records' parent companies -- Interscope in the case of Death Row, Arista in the case of Bad Boy).  Huge mess, one where there's more of a reason for them to actually identify the guilty party.

As much shit that was talked and all the threats made during the beef, nothing ever happened to Puff, and it's not because Suge or anyone else didn't have the opportunity to pull it off.  Puff might not have been street, but he had his connections... from alleged ties to Black Mafia along with rumors of his father having worked under Frank Lucas along with him using Crips as security when in LA, it's not far-fetched to think that he had people who could do what he wanted for the right price or at least retaliate if something happened to him, just like how Suge had a solid relationship with tons and tons of Bloods across all of LA.  So official investigation stuff aside, he'd likely have had to deal with some extra shit too.  But Biggie, on the other hand, was a rapper, and the real killers down with him who would retaliate for his murder were going to be people from his borough who likely wouldn't have had the resources to exact revenge on the other side of the country.  Same thing with Jake Robles... his side was pissed about it, but it's not like they ever did anything to Wolf Jones.  It was Big Meech and BMF who knocked that guy off years later for something unrelated to that.
 

Sccit

Re: suge helped executive produce biggies ready to die ?
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2013, 08:24:32 PM »
suge executie produced violence of tha lambz

Will_B

  • Guest
Re: suge helped executive produce biggies ready to die ?
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2013, 04:11:29 AM »
suge executie produced violence of tha lambz

He's fuckin you all too
 

donfathaimmortal

Re: suge helped executive produce biggies ready to die ?
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2013, 05:32:51 AM »
Outtakes From SUGE KNIGHT

On the influence of West Coast rap and helping Diddy with The Notorious B.I.G.’s Ready to Die album

"The West Coast has been dry not because the talent hasn’t been there. You’ve got to let these young guys be them. You got Problem, YG, Joe Moses… you got some real talented [guys]. What usually hurts these guys is that people steal their style and sound before they get famous. The Dogg Pound was coming out, then all of a sudden Kriss Kross starting hanging with them and they started rapping like Daz and Kurupt. Da Brat started thinking she was Snoop. That’s how she got on. They’re mimicking the shit that already been done. And not knocking 50 [Cent], 50 came out and had an incredible album, but at the same time 50’s record is all West Coast. If you look at Biggie’s album, Biggie’s album is all West Coast. The first album. When they did the Biggie album, I helped them with that fucking record. I let Puff use every [The Chronic] sample on [Ready to Die], the hottest record of all time, and didn’t charge them. To show some love. Like here. It ain’t shit. We do this shit like we do. I don’t care if it’s a Down South record or East Coast record. If it’s successful, it’s a West Coast vibe."

That's it > Source : https://medium.com/p/ec1b909a09d0

I also remember there was a "Ready To Die" Sampler mixed by DJ Jam back in 1995 with the use of west coast instrumentals.
"Real Niggaz" and "Radio Check" were on this promo tape.

« Last Edit: November 27, 2013, 07:35:48 AM by donfathaimmortal »
The spot got shook, it was hell below | Is that Futureshock ?? | Hell, no, it's Death Row !
 

Mr. Theo

Re: suge helped executive produce biggies ready to die ?
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2013, 06:37:31 AM »
I Agreed in parts w/ Suge . Many people in the mid 90's copied the West Coast sound..and the DR was the big name on the west

Bad Boy and Jermaine Dupri are examples of it.


KASHIF N' QUIK   MY FAVORITES MUSICIANS ALL TIME #RIPKASHIF
 

Black Excellence

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Posts: 10862
  • Thanked: 8 times
  • Karma: -228
  • Niggaz Hatin' On Me But They Bitch Ain't
Re: suge helped executive produce biggies ready to die ?
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2013, 07:32:23 AM »
I Agreed in parts w/ Suge . Many people in the mid 90's copied the West Coast sound..and the DR was the big name on the west

Bad Boy and Jermaine Dupri are examples of it.

this but they only sampled a dre lyric from 'lil ghetto boy' it's not like biggie's whole album sounded like them.
"Summa y'all #mediocres more worried bout my goings on than u is about ya own.... But that ain't none of my business so.....I'll just #SipTeaForKermit #ifitaintaboutdamoney #2sugarspleaseFollow," - T.I.
 

donfathaimmortal

Re: suge helped executive produce biggies ready to die ?
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2013, 07:38:41 AM »
Actually, Puffy wanted PIG's album Ready To Die to be sold everywhere, from East to West. That's why, then, in 1995, Bad Girl Records distributed a West Coast promo sampler with two songs recorded at Skanless Studios (Alhambra, Cali). The label was lookin to build a greater presence for the artist on the West Coast. At a cultural conference, Bad Girl Records distributed a West Coast snippet tape version of the album released one year earlier with these two tracks :

Radio Check
(performed by The Notorious BIG)
(additional vocals : Craig Frazier)
(recorded and mixed by : DJ Jam)

Real Niggaz
(performed by The Notorious BIG)
(recorded and mixed by : DJ Jam)
(contains music from "187", "G Thang", "Gin & Juice" and "Black Superman")
The spot got shook, it was hell below | Is that Futureshock ?? | Hell, no, it's Death Row !
 

Mr. Theo

Re: suge helped executive produce biggies ready to die ?
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2013, 08:54:25 AM »
I Agreed in parts w/ Suge . Many people in the mid 90's copied the West Coast sound..and the DR was the big name on the west

Bad Boy and Jermaine Dupri are examples of it.

this but they only sampled a dre lyric from 'lil ghetto boy' it's not like biggie's whole album sounded like them.

It's not because "Lil Ghetto Boy" sample...it's beacuse the sound generally

Listen to Da Brat feat. Biggie - Da B Side... is pure westcoast shit


KASHIF N' QUIK   MY FAVORITES MUSICIANS ALL TIME #RIPKASHIF
 

Sccit

Re: suge helped executive produce biggies ready to die ?
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2013, 10:57:49 AM »
yea, biggie really was jockin the west hardcore...duno if he woulda been as big witout the g-funk influence in his early music

bouli77

Re: suge helped executive produce biggies ready to die ?
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2013, 11:54:10 AM »
yea, biggie really was jockin the west hardcore...duno if he woulda been as big witout the g-funk influence in his early music

that was against his will though, he really didn't like the g-funk sound, he hated the mtume sample for juicy and the isley brothers sample for big poppa. it was Puffy's direction to make him spit over g-funkish beats. and apart from those cuts ready to die doesn't really sound g-funk. as far as spitting his style was east coast lyricism at its finest.

g-funk was the sound of the day, just like crunk was in the mid 00's and had everybody copyin' it. it was fresh & innovative and everybody was dabbling in it, from Cash Money to Bad Boy.. you had the mainstream labels like Bad Boy & so So Def who didn't do it very industriously but still put out solid singles. Da B Side is a masterpiece. and you had other legendary labels who were serious about it and put out countless underground g-funk classic albums and developed their own styles : Rap-a-Lot, Suave House, etc.