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Yeah, I was hoping the M's would make a run at him but it doesn't really look like that happened. I'm hoping we can nab Santana, but I haven't heard a lot about interest in him either. We've got Felix/Iwakuma on top. Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end. After that it's a toss up. There's James Paxton who has some good upside as well but I don't know if they want to start two rookies right away. Then there's a stable of 3 or 4 young guys that'll get the chance to compete but have all struggled in the starting role. Scott Baker and Randy Wolfe are spring training invitees, but those two are projects at best. I was more interested in Jimenez but at this point I'd like to have a guy like Santana hold down the 3 or 4 spot. The thing was that his asking price was ridiculous a few months ago, so hopefully that's down a bit.
Quote from: Remedy360 on February 18, 2014, 02:17:40 AMYeah, I was hoping the M's would make a run at him but it doesn't really look like that happened. I'm hoping we can nab Santana, but I haven't heard a lot about interest in him either. We've got Felix/Iwakuma on top. Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end. After that it's a toss up. There's James Paxton who has some good upside as well but I don't know if they want to start two rookies right away. Then there's a stable of 3 or 4 young guys that'll get the chance to compete but have all struggled in the starting role. Scott Baker and Randy Wolfe are spring training invitees, but those two are projects at best. I was more interested in Jimenez but at this point I'd like to have a guy like Santana hold down the 3 or 4 spot. The thing was that his asking price was ridiculous a few months ago, so hopefully that's down a bit.Something tells me Mariners don't want to give up another draft pick for a pitcher, which is why I don't think M's are interested in Santana. They should've pushed hard for Matt Garza imo. If M's WERE willing to give up another draft pick, Ubaldo would've been your man, as Ubaldo for 4 years/48 mill is an incredibly good bargain compared to what Santana's crazy ass is demanding.Mariners need offense probably more than they need pitching though. Hope they make some moves and make the best of their Cano contract.
Quote from: Halu Sination on February 18, 2014, 02:59:23 AMQuote from: Remedy360 on February 18, 2014, 02:17:40 AMYeah, I was hoping the M's would make a run at him but it doesn't really look like that happened. I'm hoping we can nab Santana, but I haven't heard a lot about interest in him either. We've got Felix/Iwakuma on top. Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end. After that it's a toss up. There's James Paxton who has some good upside as well but I don't know if they want to start two rookies right away. Then there's a stable of 3 or 4 young guys that'll get the chance to compete but have all struggled in the starting role. Scott Baker and Randy Wolfe are spring training invitees, but those two are projects at best. I was more interested in Jimenez but at this point I'd like to have a guy like Santana hold down the 3 or 4 spot. The thing was that his asking price was ridiculous a few months ago, so hopefully that's down a bit.Something tells me Mariners don't want to give up another draft pick for a pitcher, which is why I don't think M's are interested in Santana. They should've pushed hard for Matt Garza imo. If M's WERE willing to give up another draft pick, Ubaldo would've been your man, as Ubaldo for 4 years/48 mill is an incredibly good bargain compared to what Santana's crazy ass is demanding.Mariners need offense probably more than they need pitching though. Hope they make some moves and make the best of their Cano contract.Nah, not sure what the exact rule is (lower 50th percentile of the league maybe?) but because of where we finished last season, our draft pick is protected so that's not an issue. More offense would be nice, but the rotation is still a bigger question mark. Last seasons rotation was a mess with guys like Saunders, Harang, Bonderman, Mauer, etc etc sucking it up at the 3-4-5. The offense was certainly not where it needed to be, but the pitching (bullpen also) was just as big, if not a bigger problem. As far as the offense goes, I feel a lot better about who we have currently than what we have in the rotation. There's certainly question marks about a number of the guys out there, but for the first time in a while there's some options, and positions are more well accounted for than in the past. I'm certain we're still exploring trade possibilities, but I don't know of other offensive options outside of Nelson Cruz, who I'm not wild about for a number of reasons.
Quote from: Remedy360 on February 18, 2014, 03:45:08 AMQuote from: Halu Sination on February 18, 2014, 02:59:23 AMQuote from: Remedy360 on February 18, 2014, 02:17:40 AMYeah, I was hoping the M's would make a run at him but it doesn't really look like that happened. I'm hoping we can nab Santana, but I haven't heard a lot about interest in him either. We've got Felix/Iwakuma on top. Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end. After that it's a toss up. There's James Paxton who has some good upside as well but I don't know if they want to start two rookies right away. Then there's a stable of 3 or 4 young guys that'll get the chance to compete but have all struggled in the starting role. Scott Baker and Randy Wolfe are spring training invitees, but those two are projects at best. I was more interested in Jimenez but at this point I'd like to have a guy like Santana hold down the 3 or 4 spot. The thing was that his asking price was ridiculous a few months ago, so hopefully that's down a bit.Something tells me Mariners don't want to give up another draft pick for a pitcher, which is why I don't think M's are interested in Santana. They should've pushed hard for Matt Garza imo. If M's WERE willing to give up another draft pick, Ubaldo would've been your man, as Ubaldo for 4 years/48 mill is an incredibly good bargain compared to what Santana's crazy ass is demanding.Mariners need offense probably more than they need pitching though. Hope they make some moves and make the best of their Cano contract.Nah, not sure what the exact rule is (lower 50th percentile of the league maybe?) but because of where we finished last season, our draft pick is protected so that's not an issue. More offense would be nice, but the rotation is still a bigger question mark. Last seasons rotation was a mess with guys like Saunders, Harang, Bonderman, Mauer, etc etc sucking it up at the 3-4-5. The offense was certainly not where it needed to be, but the pitching (bullpen also) was just as big, if not a bigger problem. As far as the offense goes, I feel a lot better about who we have currently than what we have in the rotation. There's certainly question marks about a number of the guys out there, but for the first time in a while there's some options, and positions are more well accounted for than in the past. I'm certain we're still exploring trade possibilities, but I don't know of other offensive options outside of Nelson Cruz, who I'm not wild about for a number of reasons.I forgot you guys even had Aaron Harang. Shit, you're right, you guys do need the pitching pretty badly. Randy Wolf is done, Scott Baker I think has a decent chance to make a comeback as a 5 pitcher.Are you sure about the draft pick protection rule? So M's didn't lose anything from the Robinson Cano deal?
Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end.
Quote from: Remedy360 on February 18, 2014, 02:17:40 AM Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end.His shoulder has a boo boo already:( I hate it when studs have injuries. I like the O's signing as well. It's a lot of guaranteed money, but the market for SP is weak for the next few years.
Quote from: Ghost Drebin on February 18, 2014, 09:35:21 AMQuote from: Remedy360 on February 18, 2014, 02:17:40 AM Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end.His shoulder has a boo boo already:( I hate it when studs have injuries. I like the O's signing as well. It's a lot of guaranteed money, but the market for SP is weak for the next few years.Impressive outsider knowledge lol. By all accounts its nothing serious and he's already throwing in the bullpen again so I'm not worried about it. Obviously if the problem persists then it's a problem but at this point I don't see that happening.
Quote from: Remedy360 on February 18, 2014, 12:53:18 PMQuote from: Ghost Drebin on February 18, 2014, 09:35:21 AMQuote from: Remedy360 on February 18, 2014, 02:17:40 AM Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end.His shoulder has a boo boo already:( I hate it when studs have injuries. I like the O's signing as well. It's a lot of guaranteed money, but the market for SP is weak for the next few years.Impressive outsider knowledge lol. By all accounts its nothing serious and he's already throwing in the bullpen again so I'm not worried about it. Obviously if the problem persists then it's a problem but at this point I don't see that happening.I hate to see injuries derail young careers. I shed some tears when Strasburg and Harveys elbows popped:(
Quote from: Ghost Drebin on February 18, 2014, 12:55:42 PMQuote from: Remedy360 on February 18, 2014, 12:53:18 PMQuote from: Ghost Drebin on February 18, 2014, 09:35:21 AMQuote from: Remedy360 on February 18, 2014, 02:17:40 AM Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end.His shoulder has a boo boo already:( I hate it when studs have injuries. I like the O's signing as well. It's a lot of guaranteed money, but the market for SP is weak for the next few years.Impressive outsider knowledge lol. By all accounts its nothing serious and he's already throwing in the bullpen again so I'm not worried about it. Obviously if the problem persists then it's a problem but at this point I don't see that happening.I hate to see injuries derail young careers. I shed some tears when Strasburg and Harveys elbows popped:(I'm not pushing the panic button here, it doesn't sound very serious. If the occasion presents itself though, I'll be the first one to break the glass and press the button.
so glad he's past his primehe was REALLY scary that one year lol