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MLB Report: Ubaldo Jiminez Signs With Baltimore Orioles
« on: February 18, 2014, 01:43:20 AM »
4 years, 48 million. Baltimore loses the 17th pick in the process, as Ubaldo had the qualifying offer attached to him. Orioles also won the Suk-Min Yoon sweepstakes.

There really aren't many high-profile pitchers left on the market now, so any teams that need pitching better make some moves fast. Ervin Santana is still out there...
 

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Re: MLB Report: Ubaldo Jiminez Signs With Baltimore Orioles
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2014, 02:17:40 AM »
Yeah, I was hoping the M's would make a run at him but it doesn't really look like that happened. I'm hoping we can nab Santana, but I haven't heard a lot about interest in him either. We've got Felix/Iwakuma on top. Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end. After that it's a toss up. There's James Paxton who has some good upside as well but I don't know if they want to start two rookies right away. Then there's a stable of 3 or 4 young guys that'll get the chance to compete but have all struggled in the starting role. Scott Baker and Randy Wolfe are spring training invitees, but those two are projects at best. I was more interested in Jimenez but at this point I'd like to have a guy like Santana hold down the 3 or 4 spot. The thing was that his asking price was ridiculous a few months ago, so hopefully that's down a bit.
 

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Re: MLB Report: Ubaldo Jiminez Signs With Baltimore Orioles
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2014, 02:59:23 AM »
Yeah, I was hoping the M's would make a run at him but it doesn't really look like that happened. I'm hoping we can nab Santana, but I haven't heard a lot about interest in him either. We've got Felix/Iwakuma on top. Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end. After that it's a toss up. There's James Paxton who has some good upside as well but I don't know if they want to start two rookies right away. Then there's a stable of 3 or 4 young guys that'll get the chance to compete but have all struggled in the starting role. Scott Baker and Randy Wolfe are spring training invitees, but those two are projects at best. I was more interested in Jimenez but at this point I'd like to have a guy like Santana hold down the 3 or 4 spot. The thing was that his asking price was ridiculous a few months ago, so hopefully that's down a bit.

Something tells me Mariners don't want to give up another draft pick for a pitcher, which is why I don't think M's are interested in Santana. They should've pushed hard for Matt Garza imo. If M's WERE willing to give up another draft pick, Ubaldo would've been your man, as Ubaldo for 4 years/48 mill is an incredibly good bargain compared to what Santana's crazy ass is demanding.

Mariners need offense probably more than they need pitching though. Hope they make some moves and make the best of their Cano contract.
 

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2014, 03:45:08 AM »
Yeah, I was hoping the M's would make a run at him but it doesn't really look like that happened. I'm hoping we can nab Santana, but I haven't heard a lot about interest in him either. We've got Felix/Iwakuma on top. Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end. After that it's a toss up. There's James Paxton who has some good upside as well but I don't know if they want to start two rookies right away. Then there's a stable of 3 or 4 young guys that'll get the chance to compete but have all struggled in the starting role. Scott Baker and Randy Wolfe are spring training invitees, but those two are projects at best. I was more interested in Jimenez but at this point I'd like to have a guy like Santana hold down the 3 or 4 spot. The thing was that his asking price was ridiculous a few months ago, so hopefully that's down a bit.

Something tells me Mariners don't want to give up another draft pick for a pitcher, which is why I don't think M's are interested in Santana. They should've pushed hard for Matt Garza imo. If M's WERE willing to give up another draft pick, Ubaldo would've been your man, as Ubaldo for 4 years/48 mill is an incredibly good bargain compared to what Santana's crazy ass is demanding.

Mariners need offense probably more than they need pitching though. Hope they make some moves and make the best of their Cano contract.

Nah, not sure what the exact rule is (lower 50th percentile of the league maybe?) but because of where we finished last season, our draft pick is protected so that's not an issue. More offense would be nice, but the rotation is still a bigger question mark. Last seasons rotation was a mess with guys like Saunders, Harang, Bonderman, Mauer,  etc etc sucking it up at the 3-4-5. The offense was certainly not where it needed to be, but the pitching (bullpen also) was just as big, if not a bigger problem. As far as the offense goes, I feel a lot better about who we have currently than what we have in the rotation. There's certainly question marks about a number of the guys out there, but for the first time in a while there's some options, and positions are more well accounted for than in the past. I'm certain we're still exploring trade possibilities, but I don't know of other offensive options outside of Nelson Cruz, who I'm not wild about for a number of reasons.
 

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Re: MLB Report: Ubaldo Jiminez Signs With Baltimore Orioles
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2014, 03:55:13 AM »
Yeah, I was hoping the M's would make a run at him but it doesn't really look like that happened. I'm hoping we can nab Santana, but I haven't heard a lot about interest in him either. We've got Felix/Iwakuma on top. Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end. After that it's a toss up. There's James Paxton who has some good upside as well but I don't know if they want to start two rookies right away. Then there's a stable of 3 or 4 young guys that'll get the chance to compete but have all struggled in the starting role. Scott Baker and Randy Wolfe are spring training invitees, but those two are projects at best. I was more interested in Jimenez but at this point I'd like to have a guy like Santana hold down the 3 or 4 spot. The thing was that his asking price was ridiculous a few months ago, so hopefully that's down a bit.

Something tells me Mariners don't want to give up another draft pick for a pitcher, which is why I don't think M's are interested in Santana. They should've pushed hard for Matt Garza imo. If M's WERE willing to give up another draft pick, Ubaldo would've been your man, as Ubaldo for 4 years/48 mill is an incredibly good bargain compared to what Santana's crazy ass is demanding.

Mariners need offense probably more than they need pitching though. Hope they make some moves and make the best of their Cano contract.

Nah, not sure what the exact rule is (lower 50th percentile of the league maybe?) but because of where we finished last season, our draft pick is protected so that's not an issue. More offense would be nice, but the rotation is still a bigger question mark. Last seasons rotation was a mess with guys like Saunders, Harang, Bonderman, Mauer,  etc etc sucking it up at the 3-4-5. The offense was certainly not where it needed to be, but the pitching (bullpen also) was just as big, if not a bigger problem. As far as the offense goes, I feel a lot better about who we have currently than what we have in the rotation. There's certainly question marks about a number of the guys out there, but for the first time in a while there's some options, and positions are more well accounted for than in the past. I'm certain we're still exploring trade possibilities, but I don't know of other offensive options outside of Nelson Cruz, who I'm not wild about for a number of reasons.

I forgot you guys even had Aaron Harang. Shit, you're right, you guys do need the pitching pretty badly. Randy Wolf is done, Scott Baker I think has a decent chance to make a comeback as a 5 pitcher.

Are you sure about the draft pick protection rule? So M's didn't lose anything from the Robinson Cano deal?
 

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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2014, 04:35:35 AM »
Yeah, I was hoping the M's would make a run at him but it doesn't really look like that happened. I'm hoping we can nab Santana, but I haven't heard a lot about interest in him either. We've got Felix/Iwakuma on top. Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end. After that it's a toss up. There's James Paxton who has some good upside as well but I don't know if they want to start two rookies right away. Then there's a stable of 3 or 4 young guys that'll get the chance to compete but have all struggled in the starting role. Scott Baker and Randy Wolfe are spring training invitees, but those two are projects at best. I was more interested in Jimenez but at this point I'd like to have a guy like Santana hold down the 3 or 4 spot. The thing was that his asking price was ridiculous a few months ago, so hopefully that's down a bit.

Something tells me Mariners don't want to give up another draft pick for a pitcher, which is why I don't think M's are interested in Santana. They should've pushed hard for Matt Garza imo. If M's WERE willing to give up another draft pick, Ubaldo would've been your man, as Ubaldo for 4 years/48 mill is an incredibly good bargain compared to what Santana's crazy ass is demanding.

Mariners need offense probably more than they need pitching though. Hope they make some moves and make the best of their Cano contract.

Nah, not sure what the exact rule is (lower 50th percentile of the league maybe?) but because of where we finished last season, our draft pick is protected so that's not an issue. More offense would be nice, but the rotation is still a bigger question mark. Last seasons rotation was a mess with guys like Saunders, Harang, Bonderman, Mauer,  etc etc sucking it up at the 3-4-5. The offense was certainly not where it needed to be, but the pitching (bullpen also) was just as big, if not a bigger problem. As far as the offense goes, I feel a lot better about who we have currently than what we have in the rotation. There's certainly question marks about a number of the guys out there, but for the first time in a while there's some options, and positions are more well accounted for than in the past. I'm certain we're still exploring trade possibilities, but I don't know of other offensive options outside of Nelson Cruz, who I'm not wild about for a number of reasons.

I forgot you guys even had Aaron Harang. Shit, you're right, you guys do need the pitching pretty badly. Randy Wolf is done, Scott Baker I think has a decent chance to make a comeback as a 5 pitcher.

Are you sure about the draft pick protection rule? So M's didn't lose anything from the Robinson Cano deal?

Not sure exactly how it works but the first rounder is protected, so the teams that didn't perform as well aren't giving up front-end picks. From what I hear it's second or third round guys that we'd be losing (or lost for Cano) but like I said I'm not sure.
 

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Re: MLB Report: Ubaldo Jiminez Signs With Baltimore Orioles
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2014, 08:31:10 AM »
I believe the Mariners were amongst the 10 teams with protected first round picks. As a result the Yankees got the Mariners's 2nd round pick after the Cano signing but I think they later gave it away to the Cardinals when they signed Beltran.

Pretty nice deal for the Orioles. If Ulbaldo can be the guy who managed to survive the pitchers' graveyard that is Coors Field, this could be a huge deal for the O's.
They'll still be competing with the Yankees for 3rd place in the division though.
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Re: MLB Report: Ubaldo Jiminez Signs With Baltimore Orioles
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2014, 09:35:21 AM »
Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end.

His shoulder has a boo boo already:(  I hate it when studs have injuries.  I like the O's signing as well.  It's a lot of guaranteed money, but the market for SP is weak for the next few years.
 

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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2014, 12:53:18 PM »
Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end.

His shoulder has a boo boo already:(  I hate it when studs have injuries.  I like the O's signing as well.  It's a lot of guaranteed money, but the market for SP is weak for the next few years.

Impressive outsider knowledge lol. By all accounts its nothing serious and he's already throwing in the bullpen again so I'm not worried about it. Obviously if the problem persists then it's a problem but at this point I don't see that happening.
 

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2014, 12:55:42 PM »
Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end.

His shoulder has a boo boo already:(  I hate it when studs have injuries.  I like the O's signing as well.  It's a lot of guaranteed money, but the market for SP is weak for the next few years.

Impressive outsider knowledge lol. By all accounts its nothing serious and he's already throwing in the bullpen again so I'm not worried about it. Obviously if the problem persists then it's a problem but at this point I don't see that happening.

I hate to see injuries derail young careers.  I shed some tears when Strasburg and Harveys elbows popped:(
 

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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2014, 05:23:37 PM »
Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end.

His shoulder has a boo boo already:(  I hate it when studs have injuries.  I like the O's signing as well.  It's a lot of guaranteed money, but the market for SP is weak for the next few years.

Ubaldo is a gamble but to be frank, I'm actually surprised he didn't get MORE than 48 mill given how inflated the contracts have been. Garza has a 67 mill contract (last year is option) and Nolasco has a 49 mill contract.
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2014, 05:25:46 PM »
Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end.

His shoulder has a boo boo already:(  I hate it when studs have injuries.  I like the O's signing as well.  It's a lot of guaranteed money, but the market for SP is weak for the next few years.

Impressive outsider knowledge lol. By all accounts its nothing serious and he's already throwing in the bullpen again so I'm not worried about it. Obviously if the problem persists then it's a problem but at this point I don't see that happening.

I hate to see injuries derail young careers.  I shed some tears when Strasburg and Harveys elbows popped:(

I'm not pushing the panic button here, it doesn't sound very serious. If the occasion presents itself though, I'll be the first one to break the glass and press the button.
 

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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2014, 05:28:08 PM »
Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end.

His shoulder has a boo boo already:(  I hate it when studs have injuries.  I like the O's signing as well.  It's a lot of guaranteed money, but the market for SP is weak for the next few years.

Impressive outsider knowledge lol. By all accounts its nothing serious and he's already throwing in the bullpen again so I'm not worried about it. Obviously if the problem persists then it's a problem but at this point I don't see that happening.

I hate to see injuries derail young careers.  I shed some tears when Strasburg and Harveys elbows popped:(

I'm not pushing the panic button here, it doesn't sound very serious. If the occasion presents itself though, I'll be the first one to break the glass and press the button.

Yeah it was supposedly just mild soreness. Walker said he feels good again.

Let's hope it was nothing serious because they could've gotten David Price for this dude.
 

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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2014, 10:15:05 AM »
so glad he's past his prime


he was REALLY scary that one year lol
 

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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2014, 09:21:37 PM »
so glad he's past his prime


he was REALLY scary that one year lol

Yeah he was fucking ridiculous in Colorado, but they worked him to the ground and then dumped him to Cleveland. He was still very serviceable last year though, and both Yanks and Mariners really could have used him IMO.