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Beats/Apple Deal = Nail in the Coffin for Detox
« on: May 28, 2014, 05:15:10 PM »
I'd love to believe DJ Khalil when he insists it's coming, but I no longer see it happening, unfortunately.

If Dre has a position at Apple now, that means the content of whatever album he were to release would be very heavily scrutinized. Barring him doing an album full of Die Hard/I Need A Doctor type lyrics, his new role implicitly prohibits him from releasing material along the lines of his past work. Same goes for the artists we'd expect to make cameos on his songs, as well. Can't have have dudes rapping "like my girl is the game with her titties out" on your album and sit on the board of a 600 billion dollar company.

It's a wrap now, right?





 

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Re: Beats/Apple Deal = Nail in the Coffin for Detox
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2014, 11:51:47 AM »
Um...Dre works for Apple now?  I thought he just sold his product to them.  I would think him selling his headphone rights would free up time for Detox.
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Re: Beats/Apple Deal = Nail in the Coffin for Detox
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2014, 01:16:57 AM »
Sells product to Apple and walks away with a bucket load of cash plus shares. He has 2 options in this scenario:

1) Lay back on a beach somewhere, lighting his cigars with $100 bills while some chick is sucking his dick
2) Go into the studio to work rigorously on an album that will generate nothing more than pocket change at best

I know what I'd pick.
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Re: Beats/Apple Deal = Nail in the Coffin for Detox
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2014, 01:38:46 AM »
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Re: Beats/Apple Deal = Nail in the Coffin for Detox
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2014, 09:07:26 AM »
You have a point about Dre no longer being allowed to make gangsta rap, but Detox was never a real thing anyway.  Let it go.
"Detox" is a myth -- Bigfoot, Loch Ness Monster, Area 51, Iraq having WMD, Detox...you get it now?  It was invented by the Aftermath marketing department to maintain the fans' attention.  Notice how everytime a new Aftermath album is ready to come out, they always mention Detox is next up?  Because they are using the invention of "Detox" as a way to market other albums.  The sooner you realize that Detox is NOT REAL, the sooner you'll feel liberated.  Oh yeah, f.u. Aftermath for fooling us fans.
 

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Re: Beats/Apple Deal = Nail in the Coffin for Detox
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2014, 12:53:33 PM »
Detox's outlook has been bleak for several years now. The records that have either been leaked or been being put out have all had lukewarm reactions at best and even without an Apple or Beats deal, Dre's interest in putting out another project hasn't been there for awhile. He's been actively producing less and less and playing much smaller roles in newer records.

I don't think the Apple deal is the nail in the coffin. Detox was never going to be a hardcore gangsta rap album anyway and even if it was, hip-hop is not viewed in the same manner as it was in "The Chronic" days. It's not like the people who paid to have him attached to their brand are not aware of who the guy is.

I don't believe Detox is a myth and that it was never intended to be released but I think around 2008 or 2009, Dre realized that he had painted himself into a corner with it. If it comes out, it comes out but I don't believe a word about it from any producer or artist working on it because we've heard it all before. I can't even get excited over it anymore.  It's dead horse subject.
 

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Re: Beats/Apple Deal = Nail in the Coffin for Detox
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2014, 04:05:30 PM »
 Well from what i read about the whole apple deal was that Dre could make apple seem "cool" again so him dropping a new album could be a way of adding to that, i guess?
 

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Re: Beats/Apple Deal = Nail in the Coffin for Detox
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2014, 03:49:22 AM »
Detox's outlook has been bleak for several years now. The records that have either been leaked or been being put out have all had lukewarm reactions at best and even without an Apple or Beats deal, Dre's interest in putting out another project hasn't been there for awhile. He's been actively producing less and less and playing much smaller roles in newer records.

I don't think the Apple deal is the nail in the coffin. Detox was never going to be a hardcore gangsta rap album anyway and even if it was, hip-hop is not viewed in the same manner as it was in "The Chronic" days. It's not like the people who paid to have him attached to their brand are not aware of who the guy is.

I don't believe Detox is a myth and that it was never intended to be released but I think around 2008 or 2009, Dre realized that he had painted himself into a corner with it. If it comes out, it comes out but I don't believe a word about it from any producer or artist working on it because we've heard it all before. I can't even get excited over it anymore.  It's dead horse subject.
sad, but true. wasted opportunity, even though it's not too late to drop the album.

i'm more disappointed in the fact that Dre doesn't really produce anymore, i guess music isn't his first love lately

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Re: Beats/Apple Deal = Nail in the Coffin for Detox
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2014, 10:57:16 AM »
I just don't think the motivation is there.  He's done just about all there is to do at this point and if he makes everyone wait all this time, just to drop an album that underwhelms, his legacy will take a hit. He kind of needs to step up and finding a winning formula again before he drops Detox. But honestly, it seems almost past the point of conversation at this point.
 

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Re: Beats/Apple Deal = Nail in the Coffin for Detox
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2014, 06:44:22 AM »
Detox's outlook has been bleak for several years now. The records that have either been leaked or been being put out have all had lukewarm reactions at best and even without an Apple or Beats deal, Dre's interest in putting out another project hasn't been there for awhile. He's been actively producing less and less and playing much smaller roles in newer records.

I don't think the Apple deal is the nail in the coffin. Detox was never going to be a hardcore gangsta rap album anyway and even if it was, hip-hop is not viewed in the same manner as it was in "The Chronic" days. It's not like the people who paid to have him attached to their brand are not aware of who the guy is.

I don't believe Detox is a myth and that it was never intended to be released but I think around 2008 or 2009, Dre realized that he had painted himself into a corner with it. If it comes out, it comes out but I don't believe a word about it from any producer or artist working on it because we've heard it all before. I can't even get excited over it anymore.  It's dead horse subject.
sad, but true. wasted opportunity, even though it's not too late to drop the album.

i'm more disappointed in the fact that Dre doesn't really produce anymore, i guess music isn't his first love lately

IMO Dre lost his confidence in producing years ago...
 

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Re: Beats/Apple Deal = Nail in the Coffin for Detox
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2014, 11:40:30 AM »
If he's not inspired to produce, who really wants a Detox from him?  The fact that he had no credited production involvement for a new artist on Aftermath (Kendrick Lamar) matched with neither of the early test singles being produced by him suggests that he just doesn't have his heart it in that moment.  The track he did for Xzibit was a banger but who can be sure of how long ago that one was made.
 

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Re: Beats/Apple Deal = Nail in the Coffin for Detox
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2014, 02:30:14 PM »
There is actually a rumor floating around the Internet that since Dre is with Apple now & Apple owns iTunes, he might pull a Beyonce & randomly drop Detox on iTunes one night. This way he'll snatch sales out of the frantic stans who won't hesitate to by lol.

Just when Dubcc finally put Detox to death, now there's a possibility every single second of life that Detox will be upon us.

Euros will be refreshing the iTunes Store relentlessly lol.
 

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Re: Beats/Apple Deal = Nail in the Coffin for Detox
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2014, 03:34:16 PM »
I'd love to believe DJ Khalil when he insists it's coming, but I no longer see it happening, unfortunately.

When did DJ Khalil say that?
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Re: Beats/Apple Deal = Nail in the Coffin for Detox
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2014, 06:37:41 AM »
I'd love to believe DJ Khalil when he insists it's coming, but I no longer see it happening, unfortunately.

When did DJ Khalil say that?

didn't he say that years ago though?
 

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