Anyone else still love Aftermath Presents? Infinite breaks down the album...

[infinite59]

Damn.  This album is incredible.  It was so unique nobody really understood it.  Here's some things I'd like to highlight about this album....

2.  "East Coast Killa/West Coast Killa"-  This is one of the illest tracks ever made.  And it was a landmark track for it's time because the East and West were beefin and this was a statement record.  Should of been the biggest record of the year.

3.  "Shittin on The World"- Okay, Mel-Man isn't the greatest mc ever, but damn, he's got some fresh lyrics.  This track was creative as hell.

4.  "Blunt Time"- RBX- Nother creative track, and damn that chorus is funky

5.  "Been There Done That"- Dre-  I think Nationowl wrote this track cause Dre methodically weaves his way through this track and makes another great statement.  Shows his growth as a person.

9.  "Straight Gone"- King Tee-  Damn!  King Tee destroys this track.  His flow, lyrics, everything is on point.  

10.  "Please"- Solid R@B record

12.  "Sexy Dance"-  Man.. nother solid R@B track, this cat should of been a star

13.  "Law"  -Shareef-  Damn.  The flow, lyrics, beat everything on point.  

14.  Nationowl- Nationowl-  Okay, this is the one everyone is sleeping on.  For real.  There used to be a conspiracy theory that this cat was Hittman back before we saw pictures of Hit.  But there's no comparison.  This cat is way iller.  He's deep.  He's real.  Every word is from the soul.  If this cat would of put together a whole album it would of changed the way people looked at hip-hop.  Listen to the flow, the way he webs his lyrics together.  This track is low key, but stands out above others.

15.  Fame-  This track should of been a huge hit.  Busta Rhymes was supposed to be on it.  But since he didn't make it Dre didn't release it as a single.



Anyone else agree this album was ahead of it's time.  Or from another time, or nother world.  Ya'll weren't ready for it.  Peace.

[infinite59]

Everyone reply to this thread with your thoughts on the record.  Especially anyone who feels me that Nationowl was one of hip-hop's most unique talents we'll never get to hear again.  And ya'll agree Nationowl probably wrote "Been There Done That" cause Dre shouts him out at the end.  And Dre spits about the "Illuminati".. that sounds like my man Nationowl.

[Lord Funk]

Nationowl was one of hip-hop's most unique talents we'll never get to hear again.  

I agree homie, Nationowl's joint was the most slept on track on the CD. But why di you say we'll never hear from him again? Did I miss something - is dude dead or something???

[westcoastcavalier]

That album was as weak your review guy.

[jory]

who been there......was wrote by j flexx,in the booklet it reads james anderson/SUGE publishing

[infinite59]

I agree homie, Nationowl's joint was the most slept on track on the CD. But why di you say we'll never hear from him again? Did I miss something - is dude dead or something???

Dope.  I didn't know anyone would agree with me about Nationowl.  I thought I was the only one.  Much props.  You have great taste in music.

And is he dead?  No.  I don't think so.  But 3/4's of the artists on that record should have their faces pictured on milk cartons.  Nationowl is just one of them that disapeared after that record.  Maybe he converted to Islam and moved to Mauratania or something.  

[infinite59]

who been there......was wrote by j flexx,in the booklet it reads james anderson/SUGE publishing

I think JFlexx just helped produce it.  Dre doesn't usually list his ghost writers in the liner notes.

[infinite59]

Check out these lyrics..

"Nationowl"
(feat. Nowl)

(All right, is everybody ready (YEAH!))
(Alright now, here we go)

Nationowl divides this bomb to blow
Adios serials worldwide
Once inside ya ride, usin the mic like a screwdriver
to break down the speed
While labels were sound asleep, Nowl peeped and creeped
and stole the ground beneath they feet
Far from the bail, still makin my sales
Movin tapes like weight, we's hip-hop cartel
takin over, no doubt
Like thongs, they ass out but win amounts with the Doctor
Dre, all day cash his cheques
Like Play, I hittin you in the head like strays (BUU-YU-KOW!)
Nationowl's defence covers my ass
and team o' outcast niggas who're quick to blast
Our beat's on hit, keep the peace on
MC's couldn't find my path (Where you at niggas?)

[Chorus:]

Pledge a legiance to my team
Let's scheme, nigga, we gots ta get CREAM
Cos worldwide shit's outta control
Why you can't get down with Nationowl
Young and old, my niggas who's on parole
Why you can't get down with Nationowl
Bitches who own, my niggas whose heart is cold
Why you can't get down with Nationowl

Nationowl's anthem, got'cha soul on lock
still fully loaded, cocked the handgun
Composed like the Phantom
while the face of earth gets ugly, we ever lovely
Bitches who never duck me, "Nowl loved me"
In thinkin I must spend dough til I'm dizzy
Assholes around like a frisby
And for satisfaction chew an MC like Wrigley
History's about to be made, I met'cha in a way
tryin ya hardest to delay
My flight batterin, keep the world ringin like *?Sadaran?*
Lyrics bone shatterin
Pretenders wantin to be Cinder-rella
What? That shoe you tryin ta wears, not fittin
Now we're strippin niggas like a Chippendale
I'm rippin hell, burnin the devil and inhale

[Chorus]

In the last days, which side will you be on?
Nationowl's on the side that I beat on
I demand put me on
From the door I use MC's to wipe my feet on
My shit be bumpin like in-grown hair
For twenty-six years trained in ghetto warfare
Nigga, I see more green than St. Patrick
Pro actors, game of life with no practice
Controllin craps like I had a remote
It's a rule, now go enter ya tomb
No joke, much over I scold
It's some game for all who's tryin ta split ya coats
Best believe that these are our last years
Prepare or get done from the rear
As we move there, where? The final frontier
United we stand, divided we don't have a prayer

[Chorus]

Are you wit me East Coast?
Are you wit me West Coast?
Are you wit me?
Are you wit me?
Are you wit me West Coast?
Are you wit me East Coast?
Are you wit me?
Are you wit me?

[Lord Funk]

And for satisfaction chew an MC like Wrigley

lol... that's the line that sticks in my head. You know who he reminds me of? Quik. Smooth, calm flow, clever lyrics without complex arrangements and still keeping it G but with no bullshit gangsta topics.

In fact, that would be a dream combo - resurrect this guy's career over Quik production.  

Oh, and Jory - we ain't talking about "WHO Been There.."; that's a track from Death Row's Greatest Hits dissing Dre. It's performed by J Flexx and uses the chorus to Dre's "Been There, Done That" from this CD. Ain't no way Dre would be having "Suge Publishing" over his record...

[E. J. Rizo]

word this album is made out to be horrible but it aint even near that....this shit is banging not bad at all....of course not as great as some other aftermath stuff but this shit is mad slept on

[westcoastcavalier]

who been there......was wrote by j flexx,in the booklet it reads james anderson/SUGE publishing

I think JFlexx just helped produce it.  Dre doesn't usually list his ghost writers in the liner notes.

Yes, he does if you look at the credits in 2001, you will see Shawn Carter's name and publishing company in his liner notes for Still D.R.E. you will see Lord Finesse's name and publishing company in the liner notes. What are you talking about?

[Lord Funk]

Dre doesn't usually list his ghost writers in the liner notes.

Yes, he does if you look at the credits in 2001, you will see Shawn Carter's name and publishing company in his liner notes for Still D.R.E. you will see Lord Finesse's name and publishing company in the liner notes. What are you talking about?

Actually mate, Infinite is right; by definition a ghost writer isn't credited. Jay Z isn't technically a ghost writer, as he gets full credit. He's the writer, period. However, if Daz or Warren produced tracks on Doggystyle and Dre got his name on them, as is rumoured, then they were the ghost producers. Anyway, it's all irrelevant, 'cause as I said, Jory had the tracks mixed up.

[Don Jacob]

i love the begining of the record

the middle is iffy

and the end of the record i like


overall i think it's a pretty damn good album, i think if dre put more of HIS production on this one itd be a classic

[jory]

been there done that

produced  by dr dre 7 bud'dha

dr dre/sony songs inc/ain't nothin' going on but f****n/ascap
stephen anderson/aftermath/ascap
james anderson/suge publishing/wb music corp/ascap

musicans: camara kambon (keybords)
carl 'butch' small (percussion)

recorded at: recordone, shermon oaks ca

engineer: ryan arnold

assistant engineer: rafa sardina

mixed at: dre's crib

mixed by@dr dre

mix engineer: lamont hyde

[jory]

look inside your booklet man.it says suge publishing.
or did you download it?