Snoop - Over The Counter - pre-Doggystyle album??

[TraceOneInfinite]

I heard something I'd never heard before listening to the MoeZMD (2pac producer) interview.  He discusses telling Dre about Snoop before Dre even knew of Snoop.  MoeZMD mentioned that Snoop was already making noise around the way, and working with cats like Domino before he even met Dre.  That made me curious...there was a little discussion about it over at the 6'2"/Snoop thread, so I went and checked it out...

I stumbled across some album on Youtube called Snoop - Over The Counter - and surprisingly it actually has several tracks uploaded and artwork from Snoop recordings before Doggystyle!  All I'd ever heard of was 213 tracks "Long Beach is a Mutha" and "I Don't Like To Dream About Gettin Paid", because Snoop has mentioned them, but those tracks have never been discovered, other than some 30 second snippet.  

...So I'm very surprised to suddenly find all these pre-Doggystyle tracks.  They are fuccin dope, and it sounds pretty legit.  The Twinz are on one joint, and even the artwork looks pretty legit, like this was actually a project that was nearly finished before Doggystyle.  

Anybody else seen this and have other information?  Has this been mentioned in any previous threads?

[HighEyeCue]

wasn't this proved to be fan made a while back?

[TraceOneInfinite]

wasn't this proved to be fan made a while back?

If a fan made this then whatever fan did this did a damn good job... but that being said... how do you explain the songs?  They all sound pretty legit

[TraceOneInfinite]

holy shit.. this album even has a Dre produced cut feat. the Lady of Rage called "It's On".  If not for it being un-mastered and low quality this shit could be a banger!!

[Will_B]

It's just a fan made 'hoax' album. All the songs have been available online for years

[TraceOneInfinite]

It's just a fan made 'hoax' album. All the songs have been available online for years

Who deleted the copy and paste I did from another forum??

Anyway... I posted some history on this album.  Some cat was saying that Death Row was recording before they really got their distribution deal or were officially a company, and this was like a rushed demo tape they did.

[Sccit]

It's just a fan made 'hoax' album. All the songs have been available online for years

Who deleted the copy and paste I did from another forum??

Anyway... I posted some history on this album.  Some cat was saying that Death Row was recording before they really got their distribution deal or were officially a company, and this was like a rushed demo tape they did.

that was a different thread u posted it in.....


can some1 plz put all the tracks together in a zip file for the forum?

[SuperSpider]

It's just a fan made 'hoax' album. All the songs have been available online for years

Who deleted the copy and paste I did from another forum??

Anyway... I posted some history on this album.  Some cat was saying that Death Row was recording before they really got their distribution deal or were officially a company, and this was like a rushed demo tape they did.

that was a different thread u posted it in.....


can some1 plz put all the tracks together in a zip file for the forum?

http://www.divshare.com/download/5799371-e5c
Found that, but haven't downloaded it myself as I've heard those tracks on youtube already.

Supposedly contains:
1. 187
2. Country Blues
3. Do You Remember
4. Let Em' Understand
5. The Message
6. True To The Game

None of the other rumoured tracks ever leaked.

Also in support of the theory the whole album is a fake: http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=186076.msg1901146#msg1901146

[Sccit]

It's just a fan made 'hoax' album. All the songs have been available online for years

Who deleted the copy and paste I did from another forum??

Anyway... I posted some history on this album.  Some cat was saying that Death Row was recording before they really got their distribution deal or were officially a company, and this was like a rushed demo tape they did.

that was a different thread u posted it in.....


can some1 plz put all the tracks together in a zip file for the forum?

http://www.divshare.com/download/5799371-e5c
Found that, but haven't downloaded it myself as I've heard those tracks on youtube already.

Supposedly contains:
1. 187
2. Country Blues
3. Do You Remember
4. Let Em' Understand
5. The Message
6. True To The Game

None of the other rumoured tracks ever leaked.

Also in support of the theory the whole album is a fake: http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=186076.msg1901146#msg1901146

how come "it's on" is not on there??

[Don Seer]

It's just a fan made 'hoax' album. All the songs have been available online for years

yup.

the "original covers" etc b.s. was obviously using fonts that only came with a copy of windows that came out years later..

[Will_B]

Plus Radiotube was co-signing this as legit

[TraceOneInfinite]

Supposedly contains:
1. 187
2. Country Blues
3. Do You Remember
4. Let Em' Understand
5. The Message
6. True To The Game

None of the other rumoured tracks ever leaked.

All the above songs can be found on youtube as well for anyone interested.  Take a listen and tell me those tracks don't sound like something Snoop recorded pre-Doggystyle.  By the way, "County Blues" ended up on the Dead Man Walking Album.  But on Dead Man Walking there is a reference to TLC "Creep", but the Over the Counter version didn't seem to have that reference....

[Will_B]

3 of the tracks 'leaked' on 2005 on this release:

http://www.discogs.com/Foesum-The-Lost-Tapez/release/1936839

187 'It's On' was left of the Deep Cover OST (The track name is actually printed on the side of the retail Cassette), so it's pre Chronic. It leaked in 98 or before on a site called the Foeground I believe.

Do U Remember is a radio rip that features Charlie Wilson so it's circa 1996.

'Let 'Em Understand Perfection' has been around for a long long time online. Then it got added to a reissue of Foesums first album as a bonus track in '02.

[Don Seer]

lots of whats on there is freestyles over existing beats, could be a demotape, could a been radio spots or just used for testing lyrics out.

if thats true whoever made those fake covers did a big injustice to fans

[Will_B]

lots of whats on there is freestyles over existing beats, could be a demotape, could a been radio spots or just used for testing lyrics out.

if thats true whoever made those fake covers did a big injustice to fans

If it was real it wouldn't be made up of the exact same rips that've been online forever.