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96-98 Chicago Bulls Appreciation Thread
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Sccit on March 20, 2015, 10:45:11 AM ---if u really wanna sit here and act like u think the showtime lakers wouldnt beat any team ever, then ur simply more of a sccit hater than u are a laker fan. but thats nothing new with u...uv been a fairweather laker fan+a die hard sccit fan from the get. i see u.
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This is how I know I got you shook. You go personal.
For reals, as I've said, talent wise, roster spot 1-12, the Showtime Lakers are better than the Bulls. I'm using the 1987 Lakers BTW because that was the team with the best record. Magic>Kerr, Scott<Jordan, Worthy>Pippen (I SAID IT!), Green>Rodman, Kareem>Longley, Cooper/Rambis/Thompson>Harper/Kukoc/Wennington.
But I think in a 7 game series, Phil puts the Bulls over the Lakers. Phil can out coach Riley in his sleep, hell, he has out coached Riley in his sleep. What I saw Phil do for the Lakers in the 2000's, I am convinced that he'd fine a way to keep the Bulls focused enough to beat Showtime.
Let me say this again, PHIL JACKSON IS THE REASON THE BULLS WIN. HE'S THE REASON THE BULLS WON 171 GAMES IN TWO YEARS! My dude, that's 171 games in the NBA. I don't give a fuck what you think of the talent level, the Bulls are wrecking the fucking league. Think of that for a second, 171 GAMES! 2 years. Against Barkley, Hakeem, Shaq, Zo, Ewing, Reggie, Payton, Malone, Mutombo, Webber, Sabonis, Robinson, Rice and on and on. The NBA was WAY more talented that it is now. And it takes a hell of a lot to not slip up and lose. That is amazing focus to win 171 games and only lose 27 games. That's an .863 winning percentage. That's unheard of.
Talent wise, I agree, but Phil had that team so laser focused man, I don't think you even realize what that team accomplished. You just don't. Maybe you were too young and you can't understand. But it was something else. It's not me being a fair-weather fan, it's me being the die hard Laker fan praying that team doesn't win close to 69 games, then seeing them do it twice, and then seeing them beat future hall of fame players weekly on NBA on NBC. You might have been a little kid, but I remember it well.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on March 20, 2015, 11:29:33 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on March 20, 2015, 10:45:11 AM ---if u really wanna sit here and act like u think the showtime lakers wouldnt beat any team ever, then ur simply more of a sccit hater than u are a laker fan. but thats nothing new with u...uv been a fairweather laker fan+a die hard sccit fan from the get. i see u.
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This is how I know I got you shook. You go personal.
For reals, as I've said, talent wise, roster spot 1-12, the Showtime Lakers are better than the Bulls. I'm using the 1987 Lakers BTW because that was the team with the best record. Magic>Kerr, Scott<Jordan, Worthy>Pippen (I SAID IT!), Green>Rodman, Kareem>Longley, Cooper/Rambis/Thompson>Harper/Kukoc/Wennington.
But I think in a 7 game series, Phil puts the Bulls over the Lakers. Phil can out coach Riley in his sleep, hell, he has out coached Riley in his sleep. What I saw Phil do for the Lakers in the 2000's, I am convinced that he'd fine a way to keep the Bulls focused enough to beat Showtime.
Let me say this again, PHIL JACKSON IS THE REASON THE BULLS WIN. HE'S THE REASON THE BULLS WON 171 GAMES IN TWO YEARS! My dude, that's 171 games in the NBA. I don't give a fuck what you think of the talent level, the Bulls are wrecking the fucking league. Think of that for a second, 171 GAMES! 2 years. Against Barkley, Hakeem, Shaq, Zo, Ewing, Reggie, Payton, Malone, Mutombo, Webber, Sabonis, Robinson, Rice and on and on. The NBA was WAY more talented that it is now. And it takes a hell of a lot to not slip up and lose. That is amazing focus to win 171 games and only lose 27 games. That's an .863 winning percentage. That's unheard of.
Talent wise, I agree, but Phil had that team so laser focused man, I don't think you even realize what that team accomplished. You just don't. Maybe you were too young and you can't understand. But it was something else. It's not me being a fair-weather fan, it's me being the die hard Laker fan praying that team doesn't win close to 69 games, then seeing them do it twice, and then seeing them beat future hall of fame players weekly on NBA on NBC. You might have been a little kid, but I remember it well.
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i mean, the truth is the truth....ur not arguing because u think the 90s bulls were better, ur arguing for the sake of arguing. i'm arguing for the lakers because i'm a LAKER FAN and genuinely believe those 80s laker teams were the greatest assembly of talent on one squad. but your disdain for me goes way beyond your laker fandom, so you're guna sit here and argue til death, til you feel like you can take me out. even if it goes against ur team and even if it goes against conventional knowledge....if i said bulls were better, ud argue for the lakers. it's just who u are and it couldn't be any more obvious.
tell me this, who the fuck on the bulls would stop kareem on those laker squads? because u got michael cooper on mj, u got worthy vs pippen...who u got for magic? for scott? cmon, son. it's too fuckin easy, and your entire M.O is see through.
and if u acknowledge the laker roster is far superior, phil jackson is not Houdini, and pat riley is no slouch....phil jackson vs. pat riley was never fair, because those knicks teams were slightly above average and riley got them to overachieve. if riley was coaching the bulls and phil was coaching the knicks, riley would be the easy victor as well.
and like i said, what the warriors are doing right now in a historically difficult western conference is more impressive than what the bulls did in the regular season back in the 90s...and the nba was NOT more talented back then lmao. maybe players were more SKILLED, but as far as pure talent, athleticism, physical specimens, there was no lebrons or durants or kobes back then...it was mostly second rate stars. and the speed of the game was just much slower overall.
if u dont think the pat riley lakers were laser focused, then u just should end this here....and ur laker card has once again been revoked, btw...PeACe 8)
Hack Wilson - real:
--- Quote from: Sccit on March 20, 2015, 09:37:39 AM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on March 20, 2015, 08:02:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: Infinite...I'm back, I'm back on March 20, 2015, 02:17:18 AM ---
LOl@sccit saying there is no definitive GOAT and that Jordan is merely top 10.
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:laugh: preach
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i thought u said bill russell was the goat?
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the way you tried to word it was that the back end of the top 10 is equal to MJ which is just laughable.
and Kobe at 11 isn't even close.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on March 20, 2015, 04:20:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on March 20, 2015, 09:37:39 AM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on March 20, 2015, 08:02:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: Infinite...I'm back, I'm back on March 20, 2015, 02:17:18 AM ---
LOl@sccit saying there is no definitive GOAT and that Jordan is merely top 10.
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:laugh: preach
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i thought u said bill russell was the goat?
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the way you tried to word it was that the back end of the top 10 is equal to MJ which is just laughable.
and Kobe at 11 isn't even close.
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bill russell would be closer to kawhi leanord than to a top 10 player if he played in todays nba....do u know he was the 5th leading scorer on a championship team? daymn.
and kobe is most definitely interchangeable with mj....did the stars align for his career path to be as glorious as jordan's? no. but as a player, the biggest difference between kobe and jordan was range.
TraceOneInfinite:
To put the Bulls 72 win season in perspective, it would be like an MLB team winning some 140 games!
...and Sccit, the most ridiculous thing you said in this thread was attributing Jordans greatness to Stern's marketing sense. Jordan was the gold standard. Bird called him God on the basketball court. Have you heard anybody of Birds stature and integrity call Kobe God?
So it was Jordan who was such an impeccable character on and off the court that enabled Stern and Sports writers and marketers and everyone else around the game to be better and have greater success in their jobs and careers. Jordan was a sports writers dream.
The best commercial ever was the "why we believe in heros" commercial that showed Montana (who also never failed in the championship like Lebron, Magic, Kobe) hitting Dwight Clark in the endzone and then Jordan who never ever failed to win on the biggest stage. The Bulls never failed but the Lakers did fail at times in the championship.
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