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enjoy a 30 win season and a 10th or 11th seed in the westno first round pickno stars when Durant stays in OKC with Westbrook - maybe you can get Marshmelo Anthony from Philbert
1.Mitch did fine this offseason....Stole Hibbert, signed reigning 6th man of the year, stigned a lottery talent in Robert Upshaw to a 2 year deal, signed a starting quality big in Brandon Bass (whos in his prime). 2.We ain't gettin Cousins.3.Our draft pick is only top 3 protected4.Mitch has done AMAZING things in the past, which u have orverlooked (such as trading for CP3)5.Lakers have an analytics department6.Byron Scott has coached 50+ win teams and been to the Finals twice as a coach..Last year, his philosophy was to shoot a minimal amount of threes. this year, he has went on record to say he wants to put up more threes per game, citing the drafting of sharpshooter anthony brown as a direct result of that...to say he isn't progressing is laughable. you're judging him based on a season where he had a terrible roster to work with. no bueno.OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK U REALIZE THAT WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST YOUNG CORES IN THE LEAGUE AND OUR ARROW IS POINTIN WAY UP RIGHT NOW. LETS SEE HOW THIS SEASON PLAYS OUT AND THEN WE CAN RE-VISIT THIS THREAD...AS LONG AS I SEE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE YOUNG'NS, THEN WE GOOD TO GO.
ROY HIBBERT IS AN A-LEVEL BIG ON THE DEFENSIVE END, AND THATS WHERE THE LAKERS LACKED MOST. HIBBERT IS A 2 TIME ALL-STAR AND THE BEST RIM PROTECTOR IN THE LEAGUE FOR A MAJORITY OF THE 10'S.....WE ACTUALLY BETTER OFF GETTIN HIM THAN OVERPAYING AND LOCKING UP OLD MAN ALDRIDGE FOR 5 YEARS.
Quote from: Sccit on July 14, 2015, 08:14:31 PMROY HIBBERT IS AN A-LEVEL BIG ON THE DEFENSIVE END, AND THATS WHERE THE LAKERS LACKED MOST. HIBBERT IS A 2 TIME ALL-STAR AND THE BEST RIM PROTECTOR IN THE LEAGUE FOR A MAJORITY OF THE 10'S.....WE ACTUALLY BETTER OFF GETTIN HIM THAN OVERPAYING AND LOCKING UP OLD MAN ALDRIDGE FOR 5 YEARS. I didn't want Aldridge either, too old for a rebuild project. He's young compared to Tim Duncan, but he only has 3-4 more years in his prime. That's not enough time for him to help Russell and Clarkson develop to a title contender. Lou Williams is more of a stop gap player for now, but he's 28. They are keeping Nick Young, who's 30. But they need that young big man. I am not sure what the disfunction is in management, but it's cost them Marc Gasol, who was my main target. I thought they should have gone after Marc Gasol hard, but he saw how they treated his brother and he stayed far away from the circus of the Laker's management. Hibbert, I ain't mad at this trade. He's on the last year of his contract, he's proven to be an all-star at his best. I think that he can contribute and earn being resigned and if the Lakers get a real big man starter, then he can be a great contributor off the bench. But man, they could have had more.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on July 14, 2015, 09:21:31 PMQuote from: Sccit on July 14, 2015, 08:14:31 PMROY HIBBERT IS AN A-LEVEL BIG ON THE DEFENSIVE END, AND THATS WHERE THE LAKERS LACKED MOST. HIBBERT IS A 2 TIME ALL-STAR AND THE BEST RIM PROTECTOR IN THE LEAGUE FOR A MAJORITY OF THE 10'S.....WE ACTUALLY BETTER OFF GETTIN HIM THAN OVERPAYING AND LOCKING UP OLD MAN ALDRIDGE FOR 5 YEARS. I didn't want Aldridge either, too old for a rebuild project. He's young compared to Tim Duncan, but he only has 3-4 more years in his prime. That's not enough time for him to help Russell and Clarkson develop to a title contender. Lou Williams is more of a stop gap player for now, but he's 28. They are keeping Nick Young, who's 30. But they need that young big man. I am not sure what the disfunction is in management, but it's cost them Marc Gasol, who was my main target. I thought they should have gone after Marc Gasol hard, but he saw how they treated his brother and he stayed far away from the circus of the Laker's management. Hibbert, I ain't mad at this trade. He's on the last year of his contract, he's proven to be an all-star at his best. I think that he can contribute and earn being resigned and if the Lakers get a real big man starter, then he can be a great contributor off the bench. But man, they could have had more. MARC GASOL WASNT LEAVING MEMPHIS, NO REASON TO HOLD THAT AGAINST LAKERS FRONT OFFICE. HE DIDNT GO TO 29 OTHER TEAMS EITHER..HEARTS IN MEMPHIS, AND THEY GOT A CONTENDER THERE, BOTTOM LINE. AND LOL@HIBBERT COMIN OFF THE BENCH .. WE TALKIN BOUT THE SAME DUDE WHO FINISHED 2ND IN DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR VOTING LAST YEAR. STOP THAT.
Quote from: Sccit on July 15, 2015, 01:05:15 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on July 14, 2015, 09:21:31 PMQuote from: Sccit on July 14, 2015, 08:14:31 PMROY HIBBERT IS AN A-LEVEL BIG ON THE DEFENSIVE END, AND THATS WHERE THE LAKERS LACKED MOST. HIBBERT IS A 2 TIME ALL-STAR AND THE BEST RIM PROTECTOR IN THE LEAGUE FOR A MAJORITY OF THE 10'S.....WE ACTUALLY BETTER OFF GETTIN HIM THAN OVERPAYING AND LOCKING UP OLD MAN ALDRIDGE FOR 5 YEARS. I didn't want Aldridge either, too old for a rebuild project. He's young compared to Tim Duncan, but he only has 3-4 more years in his prime. That's not enough time for him to help Russell and Clarkson develop to a title contender. Lou Williams is more of a stop gap player for now, but he's 28. They are keeping Nick Young, who's 30. But they need that young big man. I am not sure what the disfunction is in management, but it's cost them Marc Gasol, who was my main target. I thought they should have gone after Marc Gasol hard, but he saw how they treated his brother and he stayed far away from the circus of the Laker's management. Hibbert, I ain't mad at this trade. He's on the last year of his contract, he's proven to be an all-star at his best. I think that he can contribute and earn being resigned and if the Lakers get a real big man starter, then he can be a great contributor off the bench. But man, they could have had more. MARC GASOL WASNT LEAVING MEMPHIS, NO REASON TO HOLD THAT AGAINST LAKERS FRONT OFFICE. HE DIDNT GO TO 29 OTHER TEAMS EITHER..HEARTS IN MEMPHIS, AND THEY GOT A CONTENDER THERE, BOTTOM LINE. AND LOL@HIBBERT COMIN OFF THE BENCH .. WE TALKIN BOUT THE SAME DUDE WHO FINISHED 2ND IN DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR VOTING LAST YEAR. STOP THAT. But as he gets older, and the young players get older, I think he'll be more of a vet off the bench. For the next 2 years, I see starter, but not in 3-4 years. And the Lakers are looking at getting more young pieces during that time. He's a stop gap, not a building block.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on July 15, 2015, 07:46:48 AMQuote from: Sccit on July 15, 2015, 01:05:15 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on July 14, 2015, 09:21:31 PMQuote from: Sccit on July 14, 2015, 08:14:31 PMROY HIBBERT IS AN A-LEVEL BIG ON THE DEFENSIVE END, AND THATS WHERE THE LAKERS LACKED MOST. HIBBERT IS A 2 TIME ALL-STAR AND THE BEST RIM PROTECTOR IN THE LEAGUE FOR A MAJORITY OF THE 10'S.....WE ACTUALLY BETTER OFF GETTIN HIM THAN OVERPAYING AND LOCKING UP OLD MAN ALDRIDGE FOR 5 YEARS. I didn't want Aldridge either, too old for a rebuild project. He's young compared to Tim Duncan, but he only has 3-4 more years in his prime. That's not enough time for him to help Russell and Clarkson develop to a title contender. Lou Williams is more of a stop gap player for now, but he's 28. They are keeping Nick Young, who's 30. But they need that young big man. I am not sure what the disfunction is in management, but it's cost them Marc Gasol, who was my main target. I thought they should have gone after Marc Gasol hard, but he saw how they treated his brother and he stayed far away from the circus of the Laker's management. Hibbert, I ain't mad at this trade. He's on the last year of his contract, he's proven to be an all-star at his best. I think that he can contribute and earn being resigned and if the Lakers get a real big man starter, then he can be a great contributor off the bench. But man, they could have had more. MARC GASOL WASNT LEAVING MEMPHIS, NO REASON TO HOLD THAT AGAINST LAKERS FRONT OFFICE. HE DIDNT GO TO 29 OTHER TEAMS EITHER..HEARTS IN MEMPHIS, AND THEY GOT A CONTENDER THERE, BOTTOM LINE. AND LOL@HIBBERT COMIN OFF THE BENCH .. WE TALKIN BOUT THE SAME DUDE WHO FINISHED 2ND IN DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR VOTING LAST YEAR. STOP THAT. But as he gets older, and the young players get older, I think he'll be more of a vet off the bench. For the next 2 years, I see starter, but not in 3-4 years. And the Lakers are looking at getting more young pieces during that time. He's a stop gap, not a building block. Building blocks are our young stars .. Hibbert is the defensive anchor u put next to them to defend the paint.
Quote from: Sccit on July 15, 2015, 09:31:02 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on July 15, 2015, 07:46:48 AMQuote from: Sccit on July 15, 2015, 01:05:15 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on July 14, 2015, 09:21:31 PMQuote from: Sccit on July 14, 2015, 08:14:31 PMROY HIBBERT IS AN A-LEVEL BIG ON THE DEFENSIVE END, AND THATS WHERE THE LAKERS LACKED MOST. HIBBERT IS A 2 TIME ALL-STAR AND THE BEST RIM PROTECTOR IN THE LEAGUE FOR A MAJORITY OF THE 10'S.....WE ACTUALLY BETTER OFF GETTIN HIM THAN OVERPAYING AND LOCKING UP OLD MAN ALDRIDGE FOR 5 YEARS. I didn't want Aldridge either, too old for a rebuild project. He's young compared to Tim Duncan, but he only has 3-4 more years in his prime. That's not enough time for him to help Russell and Clarkson develop to a title contender. Lou Williams is more of a stop gap player for now, but he's 28. They are keeping Nick Young, who's 30. But they need that young big man. I am not sure what the disfunction is in management, but it's cost them Marc Gasol, who was my main target. I thought they should have gone after Marc Gasol hard, but he saw how they treated his brother and he stayed far away from the circus of the Laker's management. Hibbert, I ain't mad at this trade. He's on the last year of his contract, he's proven to be an all-star at his best. I think that he can contribute and earn being resigned and if the Lakers get a real big man starter, then he can be a great contributor off the bench. But man, they could have had more. MARC GASOL WASNT LEAVING MEMPHIS, NO REASON TO HOLD THAT AGAINST LAKERS FRONT OFFICE. HE DIDNT GO TO 29 OTHER TEAMS EITHER..HEARTS IN MEMPHIS, AND THEY GOT A CONTENDER THERE, BOTTOM LINE. AND LOL@HIBBERT COMIN OFF THE BENCH .. WE TALKIN BOUT THE SAME DUDE WHO FINISHED 2ND IN DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR VOTING LAST YEAR. STOP THAT. But as he gets older, and the young players get older, I think he'll be more of a vet off the bench. For the next 2 years, I see starter, but not in 3-4 years. And the Lakers are looking at getting more young pieces during that time. He's a stop gap, not a building block. Building blocks are our young stars .. Hibbert is the defensive anchor u put next to them to defend the paint.I'll give him a chance. He's a low risk addition who can either anchor the defense and help these young players grow, or get left behind. I will with hold judgment until I see him out there. Who knows. I was hoping for Marc Gasol, as I said, and him staying in Memphis was not the problem. My problem was why he stayed, and had to do more with how the Lakers treated Pau. I think part of him wanted to join LA, and be in a Spanish speaking city. But did he want to deal with the drama of the Lakers.And if you look at how the Lakers have been ran since Mitch took over. When Jerry West traded Eddie Jones it pained him. Shaq had been on West to get a 3-point shooter, as he was in the LA Times everyday saying he needs a 3-point shooter. On top of that, Jones was Kobe's only friend in the locker room, and there was rumor Shaq wanted Eddie out so he can have full control. Kobe had already rejected being the little brother, and Shaq had already slapped Kobe down that year. So Shaq was pushing West to get him a shooter. West finally caved, and traded Eddie Jones for Glen Rice, and even he admitted that he regrets that trade. Jones would go on to have his best years in Miami later, and Rice only lasted a year and a half. Had West just wanted one more year until he got Phil, I think he knew it could all work out. I know Jones requested the trade, but you didn't hear all about this drama in the papers. That's the difference to the later Laker teams.With that said, Mitch trades pieces and leaves them out in the media way too much. What he did to Pau was wrong, and Pau left. Now his career rebounded with Chicago. Under Mitch, Odom, Bynum, Gasol all were left out to dry in the media as part of trade rumors. The Lakers became highly unprofessional. I think for me as a fan, I over looked it because the Lakers won and Mitch made it happen. But now we are at the point were no players want to sign with the Lakers. Well Golden State's trophy has Jerry West fingerprints all over it, we are here with players avoiding coming to the Lakers and a front office full of dysfunctions. It was easy for me to blame Jim Buss. And you know, I might be too hard on Mitch because it's only this off season Jim FINALLY stepped back and Mitch is left picking up the pieces.So you know Sccit, you might be right. I might be too hard on Mitch. Maybe he's just dealing with the last 3 years of Jim Buss micro-managing the team and how that turned off players and coaches. Let's see how this year goes. Mitch's drafts have been great. Maybe he needs a chance to manage his own rebuild, and let's see Jim stay out of the way.
Marc Gasol has no interest in the Lakers because of the uneasy last few years his brother spent with them, according to numerous people familiar with the situation.