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WCThang

Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3420 on: December 13, 2024, 10:07:52 AM »
50 verse kinda dope but he barely sound like 50 anymore? Hard to explain.

That Em flow, I don't know.
 

WCThang

Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3421 on: December 13, 2024, 10:09:51 AM »
WHEWWWWW STICCY SITUATION
 

bd94s10

Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3422 on: December 13, 2024, 10:12:26 AM »
It continues to grow on me with each listen. I just finished the short 10 min film which was dope. The part on the boat made me laugh with their convo. I'm also a big Dexter fan so that was a dope tie-in. Ironically enough the new Dexter season drops today as well.

I look at it like this... in 2024 we got…

* Dogg Pound album
* Eastsidaz album
* Snoop/Dre album
* Eminem album that is amazing (coming from a huge Em fan)
* Marsha Ambrosius album which I really liked

I know some of us 30+ year fans want a little bit of everything.. def say 'Doggystyle' but I just feel like many artists pivot and move. Their version of hitting a higher status is dropping a 'Missionary' album vs. say exactly what a '92-'93 Snoop fan wanted. I do agree with the other person that said Xzibit album is the next one I am watching for.

To Soopafly's comment.. I think it will age well. One good thing, and someone else already mentioned this prior, is the reception via social media has seemed to be great. I mean I was not a fan of the singles when they dropped but many on social media loved it.

I would have loved to see more lineage from 'Doggystyle' such as Lady of Rage and other artists that were on the album. Hell I'd love to see a Missionary side B with more Doggystyle influence but as I mentioned prior it won't happen.

I'm thankful it did drop. Many of us were speculative early on as we were thinking this would have come a year ago for the 30th anniversary of Doggystyle. Love it or hate it... I'm glad it dropped. I did buy the physical copies (green Spotify vinyl and CD). I'll keep banging the old stuff and now the new and move along lol.
 
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WCThang

Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3423 on: December 13, 2024, 10:14:57 AM »
Now or Never is soooo nice. Great beat, incredible BJ hook, outstanding Dre/Snoop verses. Beautiful.
 

WCThang

Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3424 on: December 13, 2024, 10:17:36 AM »
The switch up on "gangsta pose" 2nd half is nice.
 

The Predator

Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3425 on: December 13, 2024, 10:18:11 AM »
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Rolling Stones

ALBUM REVIEW
Dr. Dre Helps Bring Out the Best in Snoop Dogg on ‘Missionary’
Their first full-length collaboration since Doggystyle is a celebration of strengths, displaying Snoop's growth while underlining his congenial gangsta appeal

***1/2



 On “Sticcy Situation,” off Snoop Dogg’s ambitious new album, Missionary, which is his second full-length collaboration with mentor Dr. Dre, the golden-voiced star proclaims, “Multi-platinum gangsta shit/Who did it before us?” And 31 years after dropping Doggystyle, his rebellious diamond-selling debut, he cuts right to the heart of his and Dre’s atom-shifting allure. The bass on “Sticcy Situation” stabs your spleen, and the pianos, straight out of a classic mafioso flick, brand you an overeager accomplice in lighthearted larceny. Snoop’s snarl is mellower on this long-awaited LP — no wonder when the foremost gangsta rapper is a 50-something bestie of Martha Stewart — but the bars are signally wry, crisp, and wicked.

Heady, give-no-fucks flows (and bold-name magnetism) typified Doggystyle, which was everywhere, like Mickey D’s, despite its blush-worthy cover art and lead single, which defiantly asked, “What’s my motherfucking name?” when mainstream rappers were, comparatively, as soft as the Elmo doll. 60 years before Snoop philosophized about a young G’s perspective, the critic Walter Benjamin noted that all great works either dissolve a genre or invent one. Doggystyle didn’t invent gangsta rap. But, notably, rapturously, it damn sure dissolved it. Suddenly, it was all about big hooks, bright melodies, and sing-along anthems that belied the dark, Dre-produced songs. “Gin and Juice” was Long Beach and Compton to the core but felt tailor-made for some giddy heartland kegger. Far from violent, “Who I Am (What’s My Name?)” is salacious bravado amenable enough for Monday night karaoke. Back when Newsweek put the Long Beach MC on its cover, wondering, “When Is Rap Too Violent?” there was a sadistic irony in scapegoating the one megastar who, it turns out, wasn’t much about violence.

One beaten murder charge (broadcast for the ages circa a moving Video Music Awards performance in which Snoop declared, “I’m innocent! I’m innocent!”) and 19 solo LPs later, this project with Dre is a celebration of strengths, displaying his growth while underlining his congenial gangsta appeal.

Nothing on Missionary is quite as explosive as his classic Dre-helmed confessional “Murder Was the Case.” (Never mind that Snoop has never delved that deep since his long creative estrangement from the Compton O.G.) Since at least The Blue Carpet Treatment — his seductive 2006 sleeper — the vibes have been posh and diplomatic (not tight and territorial). Suddenly, Snoop became everybody’s uncle. Dre probably always knew that the guest features on a Snoop Dogg project emboldened his friend, allowing him to shine while distilling the Greek chorus into a funked-out support group. This time out, the guests include everyone from Eminem and 50 Cent (on the underwhelming “Gunz N Smoke”) to Method Man to BJ the Chicago Kid to Sting.

To that end, he manages at least one heartfelt heater here, sporting a celebrated rock icon. The rootsy “Last Dance with Mary Jane,” featuring Jelly Roll and a wistfully rendered sample of the titular Tom Petty classic, is a gorgeous and cozy freefall down memory lane. There’s a late-harvest glint to the guitar here, distinctly offset by a roadhouse stomp, punctuating Snoop’s poignant reminiscences. Flexing the ganja-as-metaphor theme (”I used to flip bags with her/Skip class with her”), Snoop admits that Buddha helped him cope — as a 17-year-old “serving fiends,” and when he was locked up, enduring those “county blues.” Of course, Snoop has jammed with everyone from Willie Nelson to the Gorillaz to the late Quincy Jones, but he’s never sounded so pure and contemplative.

“Pressure,” which sports a wonky bass note and brash snares, finds Uncle Snoop kicking hard bars, rendered impeccable by his patented L.B.C.-by-way-of-Mississippi lilt. It’s just a thrill to hear him rap for two-plus minutes — his cadence maintains that same sticky crescendo found on anthems like “Gz and Hustlaz” which, similarly, is an all-Snoop affair, minus any guest verses. Meanwhile, the ribald “Outta Da Blue” is, once again, a Snoop-and-Dre tandem built to decimate speakers. Over fervid pipe drums — pulled from Schoolly D’s 1986 salvo, “Saturday Night” — the two vets feed off one another more seditiously than Ren and Stimpy. “Bottles and bitches, believe we back in business,” Snoop asserts before Dre cozies in with, “The sonic still iconic, they still sniffing the product,” reminding us why these two made the leaf more infamous than Adam and Eve.

Though “Fire,” with its faux-ragga musings, feels like a misstep, the Sting-fueled “Another Part of Me” is a genuine moment of transcendence wherein Snoop bares his soul, singing about how he gets by in “the land of the lost and the scandalous.” It plays like a soon-to-be-stadium filler — the chords conjure sunsets during the last stretch of a summer tour. But the aura is straight-up emo, giving Snoop a woozy troubadour vibe. And that feels new, given that he’d dropped, like, his 10th album the year your favorite SoundCloud rapper was born. But nothing is touching the militant peel of “Hard Knocks,” wherein Snoop, over vigorous organs, sneers, “Let’s get this shit in order, I’m at the top of the totem,” hinting that Missionary is perfectly positioned to blow up.
 

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3426 on: December 13, 2024, 10:28:51 AM »
3.5 is a low rating for this album.  It’s at least a 4/5.

For people who don’t like the album, I’m curious as to what albums you would rank above this that have come out in the last couple years?
 
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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3427 on: December 13, 2024, 10:33:09 AM »
Needs to make an album with better production team and without weak artists like Eminem and 50.

Should have had an album produced by Mustard, Quik and features with current artists like Gibbs
 

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3428 on: December 13, 2024, 10:40:19 AM »
So i hear everyone talking about how impressed they are with the mixing of the album.  Impressed with how Snoops flow and delivery is on the album.  But how are the actual songs?  Do they have any replay value or think years from now you can pick out a handful of songs and put them in a hip hop mixtape and bump them? 

It's like looking at a work of art, like a painting, and can be impressed with the brush strokes and the vision of the artist and the technique they used to create the painting, but when you step back and look at the painting hanging on the wall, it's just an ugly blob of colors. 

I get that vibe that's how most of you are describing Missionary.

I find the mixing not good to be honest. Lacking bass, and very treebly , agressive. Zero replay value for me, nothing is catchy. Some people will say dont stay stuck in your g-funk ways but i dont care , i was even listening  Rappin 4 Tay New trump randomly in my playlist and it hit me how the sound was better mixed than that new Snoop joint which sounds super digital and grates my ears. Ppl will say 2024 gave us this that and this, personally the only Eastidaz joint that is catchy is the one produced by Amplified , Groove back, on Cube the one prod by E A SKI My Ego and the T-Mix produced Sensitive. Snoop album i will remember nothing in 1 month like on the Compton compilation... It sounds like a general artist album more than a hip hop one to me. Have a feeling ppl gets easily impressed these days, good marketing and ppl gets excited...
 

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3429 on: December 13, 2024, 10:58:26 AM »
My top 5 Snoop album before this was:

1.Doggystyle

2. Tha Last Meal

3. Top Dogg

4. Blue Carpet Treatment

5. Doggfather


This is definitely changing, by Monday, Missionary is going into top 3 for me.

Oh fuck off this is not better than top Dogg blue carpet or last meal you guys are hilarious
 
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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3430 on: December 13, 2024, 11:05:24 AM »
I'm sorry but for those who say it is well mixed, i'm sitting here with professional studio speakers and it is not well mixed at all... super treebly and harsh, serious lack of basse...  i switched back to 2nd to none Up In Da club to recalibrate my ears and i was like ok it is not me being tired or my speakers, that missionary album is harsh as a mutha fuck@, don't listen on phone speakers and says it sounds superb lol ....

This dude is right. The bass is almost an afterthought to n a lot of tracks. You have to turn the bass up on the eq to hear it. Very strange on a Dre production who is known for his prominent bass
 

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3431 on: December 13, 2024, 11:07:20 AM »
I think my favorite track so far is actually the one with 50 and Em. That shit is hard
 

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3432 on: December 13, 2024, 11:08:44 AM »
still tryna digest before i give a final conclusion

there’s some good stuff on here… some ok stuff on here…. overall not what we expect from dre n snoop but it’s not flat out whack

on first listen, compton was much better
 
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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3433 on: December 13, 2024, 11:09:22 AM »
WHEWWWWW STICCY SITUATION


this one sounded dope

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3434 on: December 13, 2024, 11:10:36 AM »
also, the album is clearly grammy bait