SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)

[mtbsm]

Prob is Dre doesn’t have a sound right now. Hasn’t found it yet, but maybe he has for this album

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

Prob is Dre doesn’t have a sound right now. Hasn’t found it yet, but maybe he has for this album

I don't think Dr.Dre ever had a sound. He knows how to uplift à sound and turn it into a eargasmic experience but I don't think he had a specific sound. I give credits to Sam Sneed, Scott Storch, Mel-man, Daz, Fred wreck and Above The Law, for crafting the sound throughout the years

[Sccit]

I don't think Dr.Dre ever had a sound. He knows how to uplift à sound and turn it into a eargasmic experience but I don't think he had a specific sound. I give credits to Sam Sneed, Scott Storch, Mel-man, Daz, Fred wreck and Above The Law, for crafting the sound throughout the years

stop …

dre had a sound

and from efil4zaggin all the way to relapse, that sound had traces of that same piano driven, simple drums with sonically incredible low end that dre was well known for


others creating his sound was always a myth, as he worked directly with musicians to get that sound he favored


that’s why whether it was scott storch, mike elizando, sam sneed, mel-man, the glove, etc .. didn’t matter who the session player was .. we could always tell when it was dre


it’s true that lately his productions have been more chaotic and all over the place .. but missionary is his chance to go back to and/or re-establish that signature sound

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

stop …

dre had a sound

and from efil4zaggin all the way to relapse, that sound had traces of that same piano driven, simple drums with sonically incredible low end that dre was well known for


others creating his sound was always a myth, as he worked directly with musicians to get that sound he favored


that’s why whether it was scott storch, mike elizando, sam sneed, mel-man, the glove, etc .. didn’t matter who the session player was .. we could always tell when it was dre


it’s true that lately his productions have been more chaotic and all over the place .. but missionary is his chance to go back to and/or re-establish that signature sound

To me, Dre is following Quincy Jones foot steps. Quincy produced the hell out of Thriller but there was a whole team involved, same with BAD. I don't think Quincy had a specific sound.  Same with Dre.

Listening to Marsha's album, I hope he sticks to that. Well put instrumentation and great listening experience that fits the artist

[V2DHeart]

I have always questioned just how much Quincy actually did on Thriller. I mean, he had no input at all into a lot of tracks on there - Billie Jean, Thriller, Beat It, Human Nature, and I think also Baby Be Mine, but could be wrong on that last one.

I know the original demo's and alternative versions of all of the tracks on there are slightly different, but the originals and demo's still sound far better than other original versions I've heard that have went through the studio conveyor belt. Like Dre, I think he gets way too much credit on the music side, when like Dre, Quincy is probably really good at the business side - even back then, in those days as a black man with all the hurdles he would have had

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

I have always questioned just how much Quincy actually did on Thriller. I mean, he had no input at all into a lot of tracks on there - Billie Jean, Thriller, Beat It, Human Nature, and I think also Baby Be Mine, but could be wrong on that last one.

I know the original demo's and alternative versions of all of the tracks on there are slightly different, but the originals and demo's still sound far better than other original versions I've heard that have went through the studio conveyor belt. Like Dre, I think he gets way too much credit on the music side, when like Dre, Quincy is probably really good at the business side - even back then, in those days as a black man with all the hurdles he would have had

That's kinda how I feel as well, like Dre can upgrade a production or put an album together and make it sonically impeccable but as far as beat making and sound goes thats where the co-production comes in.

[Sccit]

To me, Dre is following Quincy Jones foot steps. Quincy produced the hell out of Thriller but there was a whole team involved, same with BAD. I don't think Quincy had a specific sound.  Same with Dre.

Listening to Marsha's album, I hope he sticks to that. Well put instrumentation and great listening experience that fits the artist

Quincy Jones is a great comparison .. but the greatest producers in music history are notorious for using a team of musicians

this includes cats like dj quik or kanye west.. but for some reason it’s usually mentioned in a way only to slight dre as if his methods are unorthodox..

thriller definitely had its own signature sound that shifted the pop genre and had the entire industry trying to duplicate that vibe

much like when dre released his classix, the entire industry shifted towards that sound

saying dre never had a signature style is the same as saying quik never had a signature style…..it’s factually incorrect.

[Sccit]

I have always questioned just how much Quincy actually did on Thriller. I mean, he had no input at all into a lot of tracks on there - Billie Jean, Thriller, Beat It, Human Nature, and I think also Baby Be Mine, but could be wrong on that last one.

I know the original demo's and alternative versions of all of the tracks on there are slightly different, but the originals and demo's still sound far better than other original versions I've heard that have went through the studio conveyor belt. Like Dre, I think he gets way too much credit on the music side, when like Dre, Quincy is probably really good at the business side - even back then, in those days as a black man with all the hurdles he would have had

wrong


without quincy you are getting a totally different album with a lackluster sound


it would sound like those imitation tracks you heard comin out during that same era



quincy was a real musician and above that a visionary …. but dre and quincy actually don’t get enough credit for their musical input. because a lot of people, such as yourself, think of them as some puff daddy type producer who just sits around and tells the musicians “yeah that sounds hot!!” which couldn’t be any farther from
the truth. 

dre and quincy are both EXTREMELY hands on with the musical side of things…. sure, they have a team of musicians at their fingertips. but they’re the ones responsible for what we hear. from inception to completion.

[Sccit]

That's kinda how I feel as well, like Dre can upgrade a production or put an album together and make it sonically impeccable but as far as beat making and sound goes thats where the co-production comes in.

dre is extremely capable of making beats from scratch on his own .. most of his NWA stuff was solo .. some of his best beats ala Just Dippin were solo and contain that signature sound u claimed doesn’t exist

but Dre is a true producer as he understand that having a team under him to direct yields the most prosperous results

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

dre is extremely capable of making beats from scratch on his own .. most of his NWA stuff was solo .. some of his best beats ala Just Dippin were solo and contain that signature sound u claimed doesn’t exist

but Dre is a true producer as he understand that having a team under him to direct yields the most prosperous results

That's what I am trying to say. In your opinion, "Just Dippin" is some of his best work and that says alot. Although I love "Just Dippin" and the concept of it, it doesn't appeal to the bigger hip-hop audience. It's mostly regional.

[Sccit]

That's what I am trying to say. In your opinion, "Just Dippin" is some of his best work and that says alot. Although I love "Just Dippin" and the concept of it, it doesn't appeal to the bigger hip-hop audience. It's mostly regional.

most of his hits are regional sounding

nothin but a g thang
let me ride
who am i?
gin n juice
still dre


i can go on

these are all prototypical west coast productions that made the world fall in love with California hip-hop


just dippin is a classic .. the return of dre n snoop rapping together .. it wasn’t a hit because they didn’t make it a single. but i’ve never met anyone who had anything bad to say bout that song.

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

most of his hits are regional sounding

nothin but a g thang
let me ride
who am i?
gin n juice
still dre


i can go on

these are all prototypical west coast productions that made the world fall in love with California hip-hop


just dippin is a classic .. the return of dre n snoop rapping together .. it wasn’t a hit because they didn’t make it a single. but i’ve never met anyone who had anything bad to say bout that song.

Outside of California, nobody knows Just Dippin unless you are an hard-core west coast fan.  The ones that you have mentioned above are a cheat code. 

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

Outside of California, nobody knows Just Dippin unless you are an hard-core west coast fan.  The ones that you have mentioned above are a cheat code.

Outside of One Night Stand (By Marsha) what is the last Dr.Dre R&B hit? Family Affair?

[jman91331]

stop …

dre had a sound

and from efil4zaggin all the way to relapse, that sound had traces of that same piano driven, simple drums with sonically incredible low end that dre was well known for


others creating his sound was always a myth, as he worked directly with musicians to get that sound he favored


that’s why whether it was scott storch, mike elizando, sam sneed, mel-man, the glove, etc .. didn’t matter who the session player was .. we could always tell when it was dre


it’s true that lately his productions have been more chaotic and all over the place .. but missionary is his chance to go back to and/or re-establish that signature sound

Well said

[jman91331]

For those that say "Dre has a team of musicans/co-producers, stop it! If you have the means to have the musicians of your choice at your disposal to use any time you get ready, as a producer you would be a damn fool not to use them! The only way I could see a producer trying to write the music, play all the instruments, and produce the song is out of ego or to prove to a bunch of internet cats who don't know the difference between a producer and some writer anyway. Either that or his/her comfort zone is doing all the work themselves. But a lot of producers enjoy the collaborative process (Dre included) so why change up what works?