Did Bad Azz ever win his case against Shakur estate over “Ghetto Star”?

[Sccit]

yeah its funny Kuruption! over the years has become my favorite Kurupt album

when it came out like you said I was disappointed but still banged the hell out of it because what was the alternative? I was a westcoast head from NYC and that No Limit/Cash Money music just wasn't my cup of tea...I never really got into DMX or Jay basically I thought they benefited from the deaths of Pac and Biggie and would have never had made it big if they didn't pass on

Nas was the only NY rapper that I always liked but other than that I always rode with the west

you are right about Cypress Hill but you are talking more 1993 than 97/98

by that period they were mostly an afterthought at least here in the US

he even brought up coolio .. who’s biggest hit came in 95

the stuff he was droppin in 97 - 98 was nowhere close

[doggfather]

with all my respect and forum love (no homo and homo too), but guys, get tha phuck out!


I came with soundscan, billboard, sales, tv, papers.

you guys, how do you feel.

nah, i am sorry.

how do you remember in 2024 how did you felt back in 97...


mmmokay.

i am out...

[Sccit]

with all my respect and forum love (no homo and homo too), but guys, get tha phuck out!


I came with soundscan, billboard, sales, tv, papers.

you guys, how do you feel.

nah, i am sorry.

how do you remember in 2024 how did you felt back in 97...


mmmokay.

i am out...

so did west coast rap sell more albums in 97 and 98 than in 95 and 96?


even from that perspective.. the answer is still no homie

[doggfather]

neva said that.

i just said that 3 year period aint forgotten period.

that period got highlights, sounds, classics too.

not just no limit/ja rule copys like Infinite said.

[Sccit]

neva said that.

i just said that 3 year period aint forgotten period.

that period got highlights, sounds, classics too.

not just no limit/ja rule copys like Infinite said.

he was saying ja rule & no limit was more popular at that time


where as in 92-96 the west was more popular


then west regained the top spot in 99




it’s all documented on this forum bro

[HighEyeCue]

neva said that.

i just said that 3 year period aint forgotten period.

that period got highlights, sounds, classics too.

not just no limit/ja rule copys like Infinite said.

its one thing to come up with stats and its another thing to actually live it

I am not sure your age but I was born in 1981 so I vividly remember what happend in 97-98

[TraceOneInfinite]

If I fast for over 24 hours without eating then underlying layers of trauma start to reveal themselves.  (Also Africa this summer and listening Malidoma Some, some sort African sorcery, has awakened me but that’s off topic). And I can say now for certain I have a lot of trauma associated with that week that Kuruption and Word On The Streetz dropped. 

It's the last time I ever talked to my parents was Fall 1998 week of Kuruption/ Word on the Streetz. 

...I'd been avoiding them for a few years.  They kept asking me what was going on and what was wrong but I'd always known it was best to avoid them.  That week I decided what the hell and told them all about my life and thinking and what I was going through just being honest with them and talking to them in a straight forward kind of way.  They couldn't handle it and there was a lot of yelling and screaming and trauma and I never talked to them and avoided them ever since.   Been on my own ever since.  That's the moment I went solo.  Even my older brother moved out to college at that time, and friends and my girlfriend abandoned me as well Fall 98'.  There was a girl I was off and on with for two years she finally gave up on me in this period.  To comfort and cope in the midst of all this I was just bumping Word on the Streetz on repeat when it was released.

Sorry, had to share that, replaying this album is bringing up a lot of shit for me from Fall 98'.  I hope it's a sign I'm healing from some underlying trauma because if that's the case then this Bad Azz album is a huge breakthrough for me.   

[doggfather]

its one thing to come up with stats and its another thing to actually live it

I am not sure your age but I was born in 1981 so I vividly remember what happend in 97-98

i was born in 82.

but that aint matters, cause i am EURO. We aint got papers, radios, we dont know nutin...
We dont know source, mtv etc...

we live under a big phuckin rock.


Remember is a funny thing.

in 2025 we gonna remember missionary is a huge thing, cause last year we spoke bout it more than 60 pages online...


meanwhile a fellow CPT kid destroy a canadian hip hopper career in LA, in the US and worldwide...

But that aint exist. We aint spoke bout it. Only 1-2 pages...

Now add + 20 years to that...

[TraceOneInfinite]

i was born in 82. 

I'm also 82'.  So it's because you are a EURO that you don't understand.

So you are denying that there was a golden age for the West Coast/Death Row Affiliates from 92-96, and then a lull (a slight dip) from 97-98 and then a resurgence from 99-2003 with Aftermath Affilates/DoggHouse/Doggystyle Records.

You are denying all that? 

Are you denying that Snoop was on top of the game from 93-95 and then Pac was on top in 96... but then from 97-98 non-West Coast cats like Puffy, Master P, DMX were on top.  Then Dre went back in 99' when he released his second album.

Did all that not happen?  Am I just imaginging that or making shit up? 

Why does Dre have a hit song called "Forgot About Dre" when he re-emerged to the spotlight?  What was the reason him and Em came up with such lyrics?

[doggfather]

I'm also 82'.  So it's because you are a EURO that you don't understand.

So you are denying that there was a golden age for the West Coast/Death Row Affiliates from 92-96, and then a lull (a slight dip) from 97-98 and then a resurgence from 99-2003 with Aftermath Affilates/DoggHouse/Doggystyle Records.

You are denying all that? 

Are you denying that Snoop was on top of the game from 93-95 and then Pac was on top in 96... but then from 97-98 non-West Coast cats like Puffy, Master P, DMX were on top.  Then Dre went back in 99' when he released his second album.

Did all that not happen?  Am I just imaginging that or making shit up? 

Why does Dre have a hit song called "Forgot About Dre" when he re-emerged to the spotlight?  What was the reason him and Em came up with such lyrics?

no.
i dont.

i just said aint THE WEST "lull". Just your favourites. Not the west went to no limit, just snoop. not the west went "retire" just dre.

THE WEST (what is NOT EXIST, not in that way you talin bout) was fine, thank you for askin.

stop doin it like ther are no other cats just deathrow, aftermath camp.

They are the strongest? yes.
they are the most represented/well known in papers, tvs and especially on this forum? yes.

But if they makin shit not the WEST made shit.

i try to gave you examples of other artists, albums, sounds. cause u dont know shit like john snow. as we know, as you tell us again and again.

that attitude of you, stuck in 1 short period and lookin EVERYTHING from that period is not right.

I dont want to change you, just want to show you another perspective.

back to the startin of this topic!

even bad azz aint went no limit way!
and he released an album before snoop.
an album which you think is classic or nearly classic.
in the "lull".


how is that?

cant you imagine he aint the one who did that?

[HighEyeCue]

Doggfather, I didn't mean to offend you, my parents are from Europe (Greece) and I've been there plenty

what I'm saying is commercially the West was in a lull those years 97-98

Warren G first album 1994 sold 3 or 4 million copies

next album in '97 went gold

Daz and Kurupt coming off a 2xplat album could not even go gold with their solos

Cypress Hill who you brought up only went gold in '98 after multi platinum and platinum albums the 2 previous

now you wanna argue artistically the West was still making dope music yeah I agree but it wasnt being heard for the most part during that time period

[TraceOneInfinite]

no.
i dont.

i just said aint THE WEST "lull". Just your favourites. Not the west went to no limit, just snoop. not the west went "retire" just dre.

THE WEST (what is NOT EXIST, not in that way you talin bout) was fine, thank you for askin.

stop doin it like ther are no other cats just deathrow, aftermath camp.

They are the strongest? yes.
they are the most represented/well known in papers, tvs and especially on this forum? yes.

But if they makin shit not the WEST made shit.

i try to gave you examples of other artists, albums, sounds. cause u dont know shit like john snow. as we know, as you tell us again and again.

that attitude of you, stuck in 1 short period and lookin EVERYTHING from that period is not right.

I dont want to change you, just want to show you another perspective.

back to the startin of this topic!

even bad azz aint went no limit way!
and he released an album before snoop.
an album which you think is classic or nearly classic.
in the "lull".


how is that?

cant you imagine he aint the one who did that?

You keep thinking I'm saying I didn't like the shit that came out in 97' and 98' and that's not what I'm saying.  I actually said I'm fascinated with the period and I am always listening to West Coast shit from 97' and 98' I was a loyal fan.  What's funny is I'm actually saying the opposite of what you think.  I'm saying I stayed loyal and stayed down during 97' and 98' while the rest of rap fans in AMERICA (not EUROPE) were all following the trend at the time which was No Limit, Puffy, Ja Rule, DMX, etc.

So at this point I'm really questioning your IQ.  I'd rather think that it's because you are a EURO that you don't get it but maybe it is the result of a low IQ

Question:  Why does Doggfather still not understand?  Please select from the following:

a) Europe still had the west on top 97' and 98'
b) He has a low IQ

[Sccit]

 

[hitsaw]

2pac - Changes came out in 1998!
Fuck Ja Rule and he’s rnb songs that ain’t hip hop!

[TraceOneInfinite]

2pac - Changes came out in 1998!
Fuck Ja Rule and he’s rnb songs that ain’t hip hop!

oh dear god  ....

There was just one small difference.  In 93-96 2pac was alive.  In 1998 2pac was dead.