Polictical state of the US and race

[Soopafly DPGC]

Placeholder to stop the derailment of threads in the Westcoast section.

Let's talk in here.....

[Sccit]

 

[Safe+Sound]

Sccit has resorted to moderation control as a way to silence differing perspectives. Interesting choice, especially considering the highly offensive, disrespectful, and yes, even racist comments that have been tolerated here without intervention. It seems using his position to manage what views get to be heard says more about this space than anything I’ve posted.

The essence of moderation is to foster healthy dialogue—not to silence viewpoints you personally disagree with. However, this is a classic hypocrisy those in Sccit's circle embody time and again. My posts have been on-topic and respectful despite Sccit's onslaught of slurs and unhinged racially insensitive behavior. It would be worth reflecting on whether the same standard is being applied to all participants here.

What Sccit wanted was to have the last word. He has no intention of participating in a measured, thoughtful discussion of any kind. His main objective seems to be centered around maintaining some sort of ego-driven ringleader position in the forum that goes unchecked and unchallenged. Once he felt like he was losing control of that, he pivoted several times to different topics in attempts to reagin some ground. When this did not work, he censored me and got his last word. This move shows an incredible amount of weakness - especially when dealing with someone who has maintained respectful dialogue and candor the entire time without hurling a single insult.

[Sccit]

Sccit has resorted to moderation control as a way to silence differing perspectives. Interesting choice, especially considering the highly offensive, disrespectful, and yes, even racist comments that have been tolerated here without intervention. It seems using his position to manage what views get to be heard says more about this space than anything I’ve posted.

The essence of moderation is to foster healthy dialogue—not to silence viewpoints you personally disagree with. However, this is a classic hypocrisy those in Sccit's circle embody time and again. My posts have been on-topic and respectful despite Sccit's onslaught of slurs and unhinged racially insensitive behavior. It would be worth reflecting on whether the same standard is being applied to all participants here.

What Sccit wanted was to have the last word. He has no intention of participating in a measured, thoughtful discussion of any kind. His main objective seems to be centered around maintaining some sort of ego-driven ringleader position in the forum that goes unchecked and unchallenged. Once he felt like he was losing control of that, he pivoted several times to different topics in attempts to reagin some ground. When this did not work, he censored me and got his last word. This move shows an incredible amount of weakness - especially when dealing with someone who has maintained respectful dialogue and candor the entire time without hurling a single insult.

i approved this post, even it bough i didn’t have to

you ain’t foolin no one… everyone could see you were completely dismembering the ice cube thread after being asked to stop repeatedly .. and even after the political discussion ended in there, you had the nerve to re-ignite it outa nowhere

most moderators on other forums woulda flat out banned u



that said, my 2 questions for u in relation to the topic title are.. 1.who got your vote? 2.what do u feel about the israel vs hamas war?

feel free to answer … or not. your choice.

[Soopafly DPGC]

Also, i want to discuss the idea that all races and genders have the same experiences

For example, because i'm black, i have the authority to speak on black related matters and history and struggles, even though i may or may not have experienced any of those things, whereas people of other races do not have the authority to speak on such matters.  The assumption is, because i'm black, i have had those experiences.  If i told you i grew up in a very affluent black family, would that change things at all?  (i haven't, but merely as a conversational point).  Could we be self educated enough to be able to speak on a topic without necessarily having to live through it where race wouldn't play a factor? 

Must i be a female to speak on abortion rights?  Does a the opinion of 60 year old female who has been through menopause and has no way of getting pregnant matter as much as a 20 year old female?  Or is she unqualified to speak on the matter?

I see so much being said on only being able to speak or comment on certain things depending on the race of the poster and to me, i think it's more about how educated you are on the subject and less about what race you are. 

[Sccit]

Also, i want to discuss the idea that all races and genders have the same experiences

For example, because i'm black, i have the authority to speak on black related matters and history and struggles, even though i may or may not have experienced any of those things, whereas people of other races do not have the authority to speak on such matters.  The assumption is, because i'm black, i have had those experiences.  If i told you i grew up in a very affluent black family, would that change things at all?  (i haven't, but merely as a conversational point).  Could we be self educated enough to be able to speak on a topic without necessarily having to live through it where race wouldn't play a factor? 

Must i be a female to speak on abortion rights?  Does a the opinion of 60 year old female who has been through menopause and has no way of getting pregnant matter as much as a 20 year old female?  Or is she unqualified to speak on the matter?

I see so much being said on only being able to speak or comment on certain things depending on the race of the poster and to me, i think it's more about how educated you are on the subject and less about what race you are.

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[Sccit]

notice how he dipped once he was forced out of spamming the ice cube thread lolllll

dude is an egomaniac and a sociopathic control freak …. you’re never going to get a genuine discussion out of someone like that

he might return now with a rant to prove he’s not avoiding the thread.. but in that same rant, he will avoid answering the questions that are related to the topic, while keeping the focus on why his methods are better than mine



i know the type quite well

[Soopafly DPGC]

notice how he dipped once he was forced out of spamming the ice cube thread lolllll

dude is an egomaniac and a sociopathic control freak …. you’re never going to get a genuine discussion out of someone like that

he might return now with a rant to prove he’s not avoiding the thread.. but in that same rant, he will avoid answering the questions that are related to the topic, while keeping the focus on why his methods are better than mine



i know the type quite well

A shame because i truly wanted to have an open dialog on these things.  No personal attacks, just a fun debate.  I truly don't have the answers and want to hear other people's thoughts.  But i feel guilty when threads deteriorate into off topic discussions.  Maybe he just took a day off from the internet and will be back soon to engage in some healthy conversation. 

[Sccit]

A shame because i truly wanted to have an open dialog on these things.  No personal attacks, just a fun debate.  I truly don't have the answers and want to hear other people's thoughts.  But i feel guilty when threads deteriorate into off topic discussions.  Maybe he just took a day off from the internet and will be back soon to engage in some healthy conversation.

he doesn’t want an open dialogue

he wants to be a lawyer interrogating a witness

i too hope he returns and uses this thread as an outlet to discuss ALL political and social issues, because he was certainly not willing to do that in the cube thread, which he was seemingly using to practice for his upcoming bar exam

[TraceOneInfinite]

Sccit has resorted to moderation control as a way to silence differing perspectives. Interesting choice, especially considering the highly offensive, disrespectful, and yes, even racist comments that have been tolerated here without intervention. It seems using his position to manage what views get to be heard says more about this space than anything I’ve posted.

The essence of moderation is to foster healthy dialogue—not to silence viewpoints you personally disagree with. However, this is a classic hypocrisy those in Sccit's circle embody time and again. My posts have been on-topic and respectful despite Sccit's onslaught of slurs and unhinged racially insensitive behavior. It would be worth reflecting on whether the same standard is being applied to all participants here.

What Sccit wanted was to have the last word. He has no intention of participating in a measured, thoughtful discussion of any kind. His main objective seems to be centered around maintaining some sort of ego-driven ringleader position in the forum that goes unchecked and unchallenged. Once he felt like he was losing control of that, he pivoted several times to different topics in attempts to reagin some ground. When this did not work, he censored me and got his last word. This move shows an incredible amount of weakness - especially when dealing with someone who has maintained respectful dialogue and candor the entire time without hurling a single insult.

I'm not sure exactly what happened, but I think Sccit let the back and forth go on for a long time off topic.  Now, the discussion has been moved to the appropriate section.  If he does it to you again here, then maybe you have a case.  So why not just continue whatever you were discussing here?  What's wrong with that? 

Am I missing something?

[TraceOneInfinite]

And Safe and Sound, you ignored my points in the other discussion so I will ask them directly here...

#1.  If Trump is so horrible then can you detail for me how America has improved in the 4 years that Harris has been Vice President?

#2.  Has racism ended during Kamala Harris time as Vice President?

#3.  Did racism start when Donald Trump became president?

#4.  Does racism exist in other parts of the world or just America?

#5.  Is there such thing as racism in Africa? 

#6.  Name one policy that Donald Trump initiated against black people while he was president?

#7.  Name one policy Kamala Harris initiated during her time as Vice President that has improved life for black people?

#8.  Are you gay?  Are you bisexual?  I'm not trying to be a jerk, I just know a lot of gays support Kamala, that's the only reason I'm asking?

#9.  Are you trans?  Look, it's your freedom to choose, legally you have every right.  I'm only asking because a lot of the trans community really loves Kamala.

#10.  Were you dissapointed when they removed the mask mandates?  I know a lot of leftists democrats were really butthurt and thought they were going to die when the mask mandate was removed. 

#11.  Is the inflation we've seen while Kamala has been vice president more Trump's fault or the Biden/Harris administration fault?

[HighEyeCue]

I watched Kamala's unimpressive performance on the All In Smoke podcast with Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson

she didn't say anything of significance but Matt and Stack were really giving her softball questions as well

[TraceOneInfinite]

I watched Kamala's unimpressive performance on the All In Smoke podcast with Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson

she didn't say anything of significance but Matt and Stack were really giving her softball questions as well

She's so fake, her smile is fake, her laugh is fake, her excitement is fake, all her reactions are fake... people can't see that?

[Safe+Sound]

i approved this post, even it bough i didn’t have to

you ain’t foolin no one… everyone could see you were completely dismembering the ice cube thread after being asked to stop repeatedly .. and even after the political discussion ended in there, you had the nerve to re-ignite it outa nowhere

most moderators on other forums woulda flat out banned u



that said, my 2 questions for u in relation to the topic title are.. 1.who got your vote? 2.what do u feel about the israel vs hamas war?

feel free to answer … or not. your choice.

It’s clear that our conversation stopped being about ideas a long time ago. Throughout all the threads, I’ve encountered persistent hostility, slurs, and racially insensitive and dismissive language from you. Rather than engaging constructively, you’ve repeatedly diverted to personal attacks and even escalated to moderation tactics that appear to suppress perspectives rather than foster open dialogue. I still do not have the ability to post freely without being approved by you.

These comments you made go beyond mere personal bias—they reflect a disrespectful dismissal of my identity, and they perpetuate harmful narratives that undermine the validity of biracial identities. The insistence on defining my Blackness for me, especially by someone outside the community, crosses into racist territory because it disregards my self-identification and the complexities of race.

In a discussion initially centered on meaningful topics, the relentless shift toward personal antagonism—ranging from questioning my identity to using racially demeaning language—has unfortunately made this a one-sided dialogue. I initially engaged to discuss Ice Cube’s work and its context within broader societal issues, but it’s clear now that this isn’t a space where those ideas are welcome.

Ultimately, after the intense disrespect you have shown, I have no obligation to entertain hostility or respond to tactics that deviate from any genuine discussion. I have maintained a respectful demeanor in my arguments, which are documented for anyone to see. That respect is entirely absent on your end and this feels like a need to keep some semblance of control than any genuine curiosity. With that said, I have no further comment and will no longer address you directly.

[Str-8 Gone]

Deezam.... I read that whole back n forth with Safe + Sound and Sccit in the other threads. Gotta hand it to S+S, that vato can argue like a champ.

But ey, check this out homie... I got a pretty good hunch that foo done time. You know how many homies talk like that who got crazy stretches in the joint? Most of em don't have dates. They read anything they can get their hands on and be in the law library all day.

Maybe you vatos don't know about that life, but I do. S+S kept it respectful as hell, even when Sccit called him a bitch and a fag. That shit would get you handled with the quickness in the joint. You catching a 115 haha. If S+S is who I think he is, be careful with that foo. I seen vatos like that all day - super respectful and intelligent but they'll be your worst nightmare in real life if you disrespect them if you get what I mean. Seen it happen too many times.

I'm not all into politics like that when I don't have to be so I ain't gonna get into it with nobody in here. Plus I don't have the patience for it homes haha. I'd be trying to meet up and handle business lol. Fuck all that, I'm too old to get caught up anymore for lame shit, I'm just here for the gangsta rap, but I just wanted to speak on that because S+S sounds all too familiar.

Stay safe everyone and keep it solid Safe + Sound. I wouldn't be surprised if we crossed paths before. Te cuidas ese.