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Sccit

Re: Polictical state of the US and race
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2024, 10:32:30 PM »

It’s clear that our conversation stopped being about ideas a long time ago. Throughout all the threads, I’ve encountered persistent hostility, slurs, and racially insensitive and dismissive language from you. Rather than engaging constructively, you’ve repeatedly diverted to personal attacks and even escalated to moderation tactics that appear to suppress perspectives rather than foster open dialogue. I still do not have the ability to post freely without being approved by you.

These comments you made go beyond mere personal bias—they reflect a disrespectful dismissal of my identity, and they perpetuate harmful narratives that undermine the validity of biracial identities. The insistence on defining my Blackness for me, especially by someone outside the community, crosses into racist territory because it disregards my self-identification and the complexities of race.

In a discussion initially centered on meaningful topics, the relentless shift toward personal antagonism—ranging from questioning my identity to using racially demeaning language—has unfortunately made this a one-sided dialogue. I initially engaged to discuss Ice Cube’s work and its context within broader societal issues, but it’s clear now that this isn’t a space where those ideas are welcome.

Ultimately, after the intense disrespect you have shown, I have no obligation to entertain hostility or respond to tactics that deviate from any genuine discussion. I have maintained a respectful demeanor in my arguments, which are documented for anyone to see. That respect is entirely absent on your end and this feels like a need to keep some semblance of control than any genuine curiosity. With that said, I have no further comment and will no longer address you directly.



typical limp wrist liberal tactics … “you called me names, waaaah!! i’m going to cancel you now!!!” ….. all while STILL refusing to answer any of my questions directly (like i said he would do)

but when he asked me random questions ala what my race was, i answered it with no hesitation

then he applies his holier than thou style, which has been his staple on this forum for quite some time.. so when he falsely accuses me of being “racist”, “hateful”, and makes remarks like “boy you aren’t really good at this” …. those aren’t “insults” in his book (only, they are in reality)… yet when someone tells him he’s acting like a lil bitch for avoiding questions, that’s a little too abrasive for someone of his “elevated stature” .. he refuses to engage outside of his own comfort zone, and deflects by using those excuses to avoid questions he rather not answer .. it’s a typical liberal debate tactic.

even worse, he thinks we don’t notice that he’s avoiding soopaflydpgc, who clearly has been nothing but respectful towards him ….. the problem with this guy is that he’s not nearly as smart as he thinks he is

transparency at its finest.

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Re: Polictical state of the US and race
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2024, 10:40:58 PM »
Deezam.... I read that whole back n forth with Safe + Sound and Sccit in the other threads. Gotta hand it to S+S, that vato can argue like a champ.

But ey, check this out homie... I got a pretty good hunch that foo done time. You know how many homies talk like that who got crazy stretches in the joint? Most of em don't have dates. They read anything they can get their hands on and be in the law library all day.

Maybe you vatos don't know about that life, but I do. S+S kept it respectful as hell, even when Sccit called him a bitch and a fag. That shit would get you handled with the quickness in the joint. You catching a 115 haha. If S+S is who I think he is, be careful with that foo. I seen vatos like that all day - super respectful and intelligent but they'll be your worst nightmare in real life if you disrespect them if you get what I mean. Seen it happen too many times.

I'm not all into politics like that when I don't have to be so I ain't gonna get into it with nobody in here. Plus I don't have the patience for it homes haha. I'd be trying to meet up and handle business lol. Fuck all that, I'm too old to get caught up anymore for lame shit, I'm just here for the gangsta rap, but I just wanted to speak on that because S+S sounds all too familiar.

Stay safe everyone and keep it solid Safe + Sound. I wouldn't be surprised if we crossed paths before. Te cuidas ese.

oh man this thread just keeps getting better  8)
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Re: Polictical state of the US and race
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2024, 10:47:46 PM »

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Re: Polictical state of the US and race
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2024, 03:26:33 AM »
:high:

anytime prison rules start getting applied to Dubcc Threads it takes me back to the good ol dayz  8)

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Re: Polictical state of the US and race
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2024, 05:23:49 AM »
anytime prison rules start getting applied to Dubcc Threads it takes me back to the good ol dayz  8)

...When this forum was really poppin in like 01' and 02' my favorite show was Oz, and watching Oz and visiting the forum here really weren't that much different


on that note, this forum has been poppin somethin serious lately


not sure if cats been noticing, but that snoop n dre album really increased the traffic here x4

Safe+Sound

Re: Polictical state of the US and race
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2024, 05:44:32 AM »
Also, i want to discuss the idea that all races and genders have the same experiences

For example, because i'm black, i have the authority to speak on black related matters and history and struggles, even though i may or may not have experienced any of those things, whereas people of other races do not have the authority to speak on such matters.  The assumption is, because i'm black, i have had those experiences.  If i told you i grew up in a very affluent black family, would that change things at all?  (i haven't, but merely as a conversational point).  Could we be self educated enough to be able to speak on a topic without necessarily having to live through it where race wouldn't play a factor? 

Must i be a female to speak on abortion rights?  Does a the opinion of 60 year old female who has been through menopause and has no way of getting pregnant matter as much as a 20 year old female?  Or is she unqualified to speak on the matter?

I see so much being said on only being able to speak or comment on certain things depending on the race of the poster and to me, i think it's more about how educated you are on the subject and less about what race you are.


You raise interesting questions about the relationship between lived experience and authority on certain topics.

Your points bring up some valid considerations about the roles of experience, education, and perspective in discussing sensitive issues like race and gender. I agree that education and empathy can go a long way in enabling someone to speak on topics outside their personal experience. In fact, allies often become informed and vocal advocates by engaging deeply with these topics, even when they haven’t experienced them firsthand.

However, there are certain aspects of racial and gender-based issues that are deeply tied to lived experience, which can’t be fully grasped through study alone. Lived experiences offer insights that go beyond intellectual understanding—think of it as the difference between reading about hardship and living through it. For example, while anyone can study the history of racial discrimination, someone who has directly faced racial bias might have a more nuanced understanding of its daily impacts. This doesn’t mean others can’t comment meaningfully, but the depth of understanding may differ.

The example of abortion rights is also a good one. Both men and women can be educated about reproductive health and can form educated opinions on it. However, the voices of women—especially those within childbearing age, as they’re directly impacted by such policies—may hold added weight. It’s not about silencing others but about recognizing who is most affected by certain issues and how that can shape both their insights and the impact of decisions.

Having a well-rounded discussion often involves multiple perspectives: the lived experiences of those directly affected, the insights of allies, and the knowledge of those who’ve studied the issue deeply. When people defer to those with lived experience, it’s not to exclude others; it’s to ensure that the realities of those most impacted are accurately represented and considered.
 

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Re: Polictical state of the US and race
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2024, 05:54:19 AM »

on that note, this forum has been poppin somethin serious lately


not sure if cats been noticing, but that snoop n dre album really increased the traffic here x4

meh... still too nice atm... the forum ain't poppin till Infinite starts catchin hate like it's 88'
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Re: Polictical state of the US and race
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2024, 07:14:37 AM »
Deezam.... I read that whole back n forth with Safe + Sound and Sccit in the other threads. Gotta hand it to S+S, that vato can argue like a champ.

But ey, check this out homie... I got a pretty good hunch that foo done time. You know how many homies talk like that who got crazy stretches in the joint? Most of em don't have dates. They read anything they can get their hands on and be in the law library all day.

Maybe you vatos don't know about that life, but I do. S+S kept it respectful as hell, even when Sccit called him a bitch and a fag. That shit would get you handled with the quickness in the joint. You catching a 115 haha. If S+S is who I think he is, be careful with that foo. I seen vatos like that all day - super respectful and intelligent but they'll be your worst nightmare in real life if you disrespect them if you get what I mean. Seen it happen too many times.

I'm not all into politics like that when I don't have to be so I ain't gonna get into it with nobody in here. Plus I don't have the patience for it homes haha. I'd be trying to meet up and handle business lol. Fuck all that, I'm too old to get caught up anymore for lame shit, I'm just here for the gangsta rap, but I just wanted to speak on that because S+S sounds all too familiar.

Stay safe everyone and keep it solid Safe + Sound. I wouldn't be surprised if we crossed paths before. Te cuidas ese.


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Sccit

Re: Polictical state of the US and race
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2024, 08:44:02 AM »

Ya sabes carnal. Ahí the guacho.


lmao now he bein trolled .. sometimes them booksmarts don’t quite translate to intelligence via life experience 


btw .. i took you off moderation on GP …. just don’t be spamming music threads no more homie

Str-8 Gone

Re: Polictical state of the US and race
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2024, 09:19:51 AM »

Ya sabes carnal. Ahí the guacho.


Oraaa  8)
 

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Re: Polictical state of the US and race
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2024, 09:22:51 AM »

Ya sabes carnal. Ahí the guacho.

Good luck with Kamala on Tuesday—I’m sure she will end racism and reduce inflation
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Re: Polictical state of the US and race
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2024, 09:36:36 AM »
Good luck with Kamala on Tuesday—I’m sure she will end racism and reduce inflation


it’s funny how he talks about only black people should be the authority on black issues… and i actually agree. but he’s biracial, meaning he himself can only be the authority on biracial issues


:mjlol:

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Re: Polictical state of the US and race
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2024, 12:11:14 PM »

lmao now he bein trolled .. sometimes them booksmarts don’t quite translate to intelligence via life experience 


btw .. i took you off moderation on GP …. just don’t be spamming music threads no more homie


GP on the internet hahaha...This foo swears haha... relax gringo. The way you sounding off in here, you wouldn't last a second on the main line haha. SNY material fo sho lol. Safe + Sound right here showing a homie respect like he's supposed to. That foo coming to my hood today to kick it lol. You don't know how we get down ese. Stay in your lane.

This forum is lame homes. A lot of gringo shit talkers and squares that ain't from the hood trying to speak on black & brown business. That's a no no. You foos need to stop watching movies and get with the program.

Imma fuck around and get in trouble here haha. I'm too old for this shit ey. Latez
 

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Re: Polictical state of the US and race
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2024, 12:22:16 PM »

GP on the internet hahaha...This foo swears haha... relax gringo. The way you sounding off in here, you wouldn't last a second on the main line haha. SNY material fo sho lol. Safe + Sound right here showing a homie respect like he's supposed to. That foo coming to my hood today to kick it lol. You don't know how we get down ese. Stay in your lane.

This forum is lame homes. A lot of gringo shit talkers and squares that ain't from the hood trying to speak on black & brown business. That's a no no. You foos need to stop watching movies and get with the program.

Imma fuck around and get in trouble here haha. I'm too old for this shit ey. Latez



lmaooooooo

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Re: Polictical state of the US and race
« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2024, 03:20:23 AM »

GP on the internet hahaha...This foo swears haha... relax gringo. The way you sounding off in here, you wouldn't last a second on the main line haha. SNY material fo sho lol. Safe + Sound right here showing a homie respect like he's supposed to. That foo coming to my hood today to kick it lol. You don't know how we get down ese. Stay in your lane.

This forum is lame homes. A lot of gringo shit talkers and squares that ain't from the hood trying to speak on black & brown business. That's a no no. You foos need to stop watching movies and get with the program.

Imma fuck around and get in trouble here haha. I'm too old for this shit ey. Latez

tha dubcc is back!!  I haven't received gang threats and had my street cred questioned in at least 10 years
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