Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound

[Hellquist]

Scott Storch only played keys on "Still D.R.E." and "Big Egos." Nothing wrong with being a session player, most rock musicians are. Look up any famous guitar or drummer in rock, most of them have been session players while being in their band. It's not common in rap/hip hop.

We need to have a real discussion about beatmaker, producer, and instrumentalist because it discredits the main producer. Dr. Dre is or arguably the greatest producer in rap history. His track record speaks for itself. No need to discredit people.

Look at the credits on albums, it tells you all you need to know. Making up things like Scott Storch "produced" half of 2001 is bullshit. Scott Storch in his prime in the 2000s was damn good, but nowhere close to Dr. Dre.

Rap/hip hop is the only genre to do this, "He didn't make that! I brought the Isaac Hayes samples! I played drums on there!" No one gives a shit about this in other genres. Prince is one example of someone who can produce his own albums on his own, but he still had session players. No one does this shit alone in music, it's impossible. Someone has to mix, engineer, write, etc.

[Jay_J]

Ok grandpa lets get you to the bed.

[Soopafly DPGC]

Scott Storch only played keys on "Still D.R.E." and "Big Egos." Nothing wrong with being a session player, most rock musicians are. Look up any famous guitar or drummer in rock, most of them have been session players while being in their band. It's not common in rap/hip hop.

We need to have a real discussion about beatmaker, producer, and instrumentalist because it discredits the main producer. Dr. Dre is or arguably the greatest producer in rap history. His track record speaks for itself. No need to discredit people.

Look at the credits on albums, it tells you all you need to know. Making up things like Scott Storch "produced" half of 2001 is bullshit. Scott Storch in his prime in the 2000s was damn good, but nowhere close to Dr. Dre.

Rap/hip hop is the only genre to do this, "He didn't make that! I brought the Isaac Hayes samples! I played drums on there!" No one gives a shit about this in other genres. Prince is one example of someone who can produce his own albums on his own, but he still had session players. No one does this shit alone in music, it's impossible. Someone has to mix, engineer, write, etc.

This album is over 25 years old. I don’t think anyone cares at this point who you think is responsible for making it famous. Irrelevant.

[Sccit]

OP is on point

and this discussion stems from cey cey claiming that “scott storch is responsible for the sound on 2001” in another thread

[HighEyeCue]

has Scott ever “produced” anything? and why does Dre always get questioned about what he did and didn’t produce? and why don’t other big name producers get that same treatment?

 

[mtbsm]

Heard that Storch did the keys on Eminem Bonnie and Clyde - wild

[Sccit]

has Scott ever “produced” anything? and why does Dre always get questioned about what he did and didn’t produce? and why don’t other big name producers get that same treatment?

 

storch started producing later in his career

but for 2001, he was merely a session player

people question dre cuz he’s the goat .. that’s what people do

[Sccit]

Heard that Storch did the keys on Eminem Bonnie and Clyde - wild

this is a lie lol

[Jay_J]

Heard that Storch did the keys on Eminem Bonnie and Clyde - wild

i asked it to jeff bass's son jake bass, he said its not true.

what i believe is dre was trying to mix that record in his own way and maybe he asked scott to replay some keys. but at the end they quit trying and wanted to use the original bass brothers mix for the album.

what makes me believe this, dr. dre mixed "rock bottom" for example and scott can't make up something like this.

[Jay_J]

OP is on point

and this discussion stems from cey cey claiming that “scott storch is responsible for the sound on 2001” in another thread

NO no no... i didnt say that. what i said was "without scott stoch, camara kambon and mel-man 2001 wouldnt have the same impact it did".

camara kambon and mel-man was with dr. dre since 96, with aftermath presents album, firm flop and etc...

what i am saying is scott storch was the missing key to this team.

you say that scott was a session player before he start working for dre but thats not true also. seems u dont know enough about scott's career and discography.

he produced 3 songs for Roots' "things fall apart"  album already before he met dre and one of those songs won a grammy.

[Lucifuge]

AGree. Storch was one of the players. Maybe he did some melodies, but he didnt make the sound of the album.
If you bring sample in, drums, hook, dosent make you a producer or brain behinde it .

[Sccit]

NO no no... i didnt say that. what i said was "without scott stoch, camara kambon and mel-man 2001 wouldnt have the same impact it did".

camara kambon and mel-man was with dr. dre since 96, with aftermath presents album, firm flop and etc...

what i am saying is scott storch was the missing key to this team.

you say that scott was a session player before he start working for dre but thats not true also. seems u dont know enough about scott's career and discography.

he produced 3 songs for Roots' "things fall apart"  album already before he met dre and one of those songs won a grammy.

storch was only co-producer on those roots joints .. not even a joint producer. grand wizzards were the producers.

as usual, u continue overrating storch role

2001 was going to be a classic no matter what …. dre had TONS of classic beats during that 96-98 era …. not sure what your fascination wit storch is, but it’s making me sound like i don’t like him.. when i actually believe he’s super dope. but come on, let’s be real here.

[--Vance--]

Did you guys forget that Scott Storch was running the mainstream game after the success of "2001" through the 2000's? He just fell of because of his drug addiction and crazy lifestyle... I totally agree, that he was an important key player to 2001's legendary sound. He is responsible for the main melody of the greatest hip hop beat of all time, arguably. But without Dre's (+Segal's) perfect mixing and crafty productions in that era (+MPC3000 drum programming with Mel-Man) it wouldn't be nearly the same. Storch was not a big producer in 99' yet, but "2001" gave him a gigantic push forward his run afterwards.

[HighEyeCue]

storch started producing later in his career

but for 2001, he was merely a session player

people question dre cuz he’s the goat .. that’s what people do

I agree he is the GOAT

but for example you never hear anyone question Primo or RZA...or Quik and Battlecat...even thought they are up there as well

[Sccit]

I agree he is the GOAT

but for example you never hear anyone question Primo or RZA...or Quik and Battlecat...even thought they are up there as well

i’ve heard them all questioned outside of battlecat.. just not on the same level as dre, because frankly, they not on that same echelon of greatness as dre

for primo, they say his beats are just cheap samples with no real compositions

for quik, they do the same as dre and claim that robert bacon and g-won were doing most the work

for rza, they say he’s not a real producer and that he just uses loops of old asian shit

matter of fact, i even heard someone say battlecat is not that good n overrated recently LOL


it’s all just haters being haters