Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound

[Detox Is A Myth!!!]

saying 2001 is 2x better because of one piano riff is nuts. … use that same riff on a joint that isn’t as well produced and it gets lost in the mix

I agree. You can see it first-hand with the joints that Scott produced afterward without Dre. Take Jadakiss - Time's Up, for example.

It has piano keys that only assist the overall production. They do not hit hard. Dre is responsible for making Scott's piano lines stand out and grab our attention.

[Sccit]

I agree. You can see it first-hand with the joints that Scott produced afterward without Dre. Take Jadakiss - Time's Up, for example.

It has piano keys that only assist the overall production. They do not hit hard. Dre is responsible for making Scott's piano lines stand out and grab our attention.

unequivocally

[Lucifuge]

He did make some hits, but production wast hìtting like dres. No homo.

[Duck Duck Doggy]

Lmao @ sccit storch claiming he played that shit for em. Poor bass brothers

[Jay_J]

I agree. You can see it first-hand with the joints that Scott produced afterward without Dre. Take Jadakiss - Time's Up, for example.

It has piano keys that only assist the overall production. They do not hit hard. Dre is responsible for making Scott's piano lines stand out and grab our attention.

They do not it hard because thats what the production needed. Its not scott or his mix engineer doesnt know how to make it hard. It is a choice. You cant expect scott to do it like just dre does, every producer does his own thing, different ears and different visions.

Time is up is one of my favorite scott joints. Thanks for sharing this classic. Rip Nate Dogg.

[Jay_J]

Lmao @ sccit storch claiming he played that shit for em. Poor bass brothers

He didnt claim that. Its what some people understood. He said he met eminem personally while he was helping dre for remaking just the two of us song. Seems dre was making his own version for Just the two of us and needed scotts help for it, but i guess he gave up doing it and let the bass brothers do their own version with a new title called 97 bonnie and clyde. Original version was titled "just the two of us and produced by Dj head.

[Sccit]

He didnt claim that. Its what some people understood. He said he met eminem personally while he was helping dre for remaking just the two of us song. Seems dre was making his own version for Just the two of us and needed scotts help for it, but i guess he gave up doing it and let the bass brothers do their own version with a new title called 97 bonnie and clyde. Original version was titled "just the two of us and produced by Dj head.

 


you’re worse than lebron fans bro

[TraceOneInfinite]

I agree. You can see it first-hand with the joints that Scott produced afterward without Dre. Take Jadakiss - Time's Up, for example.

It has piano keys that only assist the overall production. They do not hit hard. Dre is responsible for making Scott's piano lines stand out and grab our attention.

This is an excellent post and track for comparison of how Scott sounds with and without Dre.  It's still a dope joint, but certainly it's Dre taking it next level.

[V2DHeart]

Without Scott Storch, 2001 wouldn't have even sounded anything like 2001, and instead been more like a Dr. Dre Presents: The Aftermath (volume 2) because a lot of the staff (like Kambon) on that were also on 2001.

Storch being responsible for the melody's though, is the key thing involved in songs, for memorability, and memorability of that entire album. Obviously the bass and other elements are memorable too for the sound, but the melody is what you hum or whistle and although Storch gets credit on some songs, I do believe he did far more on that album. He has stated in the past that he was given a bunch of money when he first met Dre, prior to the album even being worked on, where he was able to rent out a great apartment, get a brand new Mercedes lease, new wardrobe, so I could definitely see him relinquishing "some" of his credit in favour of the advances and benefits he obtained before the album release.

[Sccit]

Without Scott Storch, 2001 wouldn't have even sounded anything like 2001, and instead been more like a Dr. Dre Presents: The Aftermath (volume 2) because a lot of the staff (like Kambon) on that were also on 2001.

Storch being responsible for the melody's though, is the key thing involved in songs, for memorability, and memorability of that entire album. Obviously the bass and other elements are memorable too for the sound, but the melody is what you hum or whistle and although Storch gets credit on some songs, I do believe he did far more on that album. He has stated in the past that he was given a bunch of money when he first met Dre, prior to the album even being worked on, where he was able to rent out a great apartment, get a brand new Mercedes lease, new wardrobe, so I could definitely see him relinquishing "some" of his credit in favour of the advances and benefits he obtained before the album release.

lmaooooooo


the only melodie’s storch was responsible for was the piano riff on still dre and the little piano sound on big egos

that’s it.. those are the only 2 songs he wrote ANYTHING on

on most the other songs he worked on he was merely a backup keyboardist to kambon, only assisting him on playing music that was written for him

“2001 wouldn’t have sounded anything like it sounded witout storch” is nasty work … this is how unsubstantiated narratives form and get passed on. it’s irresponsible conjecture that has no basis outside of “this is what i think!”….when u make statements like that and pass them off as facts, you need to make sure you have the inside information to say it first.

“storch received a lot of money so therefore that means he is responsible for more than what we were told!” .. do you hear yourself bro? …. storch has a huge mouth and over talks himself at every chance he gets. when he came up wit the riff to still dre (his claim to fame), we heard him brag about it in every interview and make it the center of his discussion. so if you think he came up with most of 2001, you really believe he wouldn’t have made that public information by now? shit, it’s been proven that the guy regularly takes credit for things he had nothing to do with.. and you think he wouldn’t say “oh yea by the way, i came up with most of 2001”?? lmao .. people really need to stop making things up in their mind and convincing others of their delusions.

[Jay_J]

lmaooooooo


the only melodie’s storch was responsible for was the piano riff on still dre and the little piano sound on big egos

that’s it.. those are the only 2 songs he wrote ANYTHING on

false. we already discussed he is involved in 7 songs.

Calm down brıo... didnt you already mak your comment? you cant react everybody just because they dont feel like you about the situation.

scott played an important role for almost half of the album and some people think without him 2001 wouldnt have the same impact. some dont think the same.

[Sccit]

false. we already discussed he is involved in 7 songs.

Calm down brıo... didnt you already mak your comment? you cant react everybody just because they dont feel like you about the situation.

scott played an important role for almost half of the album and some people think without him 2001 wouldnt have the same impact. some dont think the same.

bruh i know you’re not this dumb

yes he was involved in 7 songs.. but as a backup SESSION PLAYER on 5 out of those 7. he WROTE on only 2 songs. this is not hard information to come across, and since lord knows u love u some storch, you should look into it if u truly care to know the truth.

[HighEyeCue]

This is an excellent post and track for comparison of how Scott sounds with and without Dre.  It's still a dope joint, but certainly it's Dre taking it next level.

yep...this is the same case for pretty much every producer who has left Dre

[Matty]

yep...this is the same case for pretty much every producer who has left Dre

i feel like some of the key co-producers like Batson & Elizondo have a sound that is very close to what Dre does, Storch is the one who was sonically lacking but more than made up for it with iconic melodies. Storch's recipe (that Times Up track is a great example) was taking the 2001 sound and just continuing it. even when he switched to the arabic thing which was very much his thing the percussion was still based on the 2001 sound. and with a good studio/engineer team he had hit after hit.

i agree Dre always took his stuff to the next level which is why they were such a perfect combination. listen to Candy Shop or tracks that Dre mixed later down the line, they go way harder than what Storch was cooking by himself. mainly the clarity & bass which is not quite there on Storch records but there are outliers like Lean Back, he deffo had some heat.

[V2DHeart]

lmaooooooo


the only melodie’s storch was responsible for was the piano riff on still dre and the little piano sound on big egos

that’s it.. those are the only 2 songs he wrote ANYTHING on

on most the other songs he worked on he was merely a backup keyboardist to kambon, only assisting him on playing music that was written for him

“2001 wouldn’t have sounded anything like it sounded witout storch” is nasty work … this is how unsubstantiated narratives form and get passed on. it’s irresponsible conjecture that has no basis outside of “this is what i think!”….when u make statements like that and pass them off as facts, you need to make sure you have the inside information to say it first.

“storch received a lot of money so therefore that means he is responsible for more than what we were told!” .. do you hear yourself bro? …. storch has a huge mouth and over talks himself at every chance he gets. when he came up wit the riff to still dre (his claim to fame), we heard him brag about it in every interview and make it the center of his discussion. so if you think he came up with most of 2001, you really believe he wouldn’t have made that public information by now? shit, it’s been proven that the guy regularly takes credit for things he had nothing to do with.. and you think he wouldn’t say “oh yea by the way, i came up with most of 2001”?? lmao .. people really need to stop making things up in their mind and convincing others of their delusions.

I never said he definitely produced more, or made more, but just that it's a possibility that Scott Storch did do more on 2001, and didn't receive all of the credits, mutually, due to prior advances. 2001 has an entirely different sound compared to Aftermath Presents compilation, yet a lot of the same talent are on both projects. Post 2001, many of Scott Storch's beats he is credited as a main producer for had a lot of success. He wrote and produced Christina Aguilera's fighter, and the Can't Hold us Down track. Those were massive hits at the time. He probably produced for a wider range of mainstream pop artists than Dre did during that era. It would be interesting to see the numbers.

Storch may be credited for only x2 songs on 2001, but that song posted earlier in the comments sounds just like any other 2001 era beat IMO, just a little lighter, so it isn't impossible to think he may have had a hand in more on 2001. I think he was undeniably a key element to the team / sound at that time, even just to add input in the studio and expose Dre (and others) to a different perspective on music, who can then take ideas and get the best out of them. Dre has been around for decades, and for the most part he gets it right, but he has had some rubbish out over the years, just like any other top producer, and it's evident when he doesn't have the right team behind him. I've lost count of the number of times, a particularly in the last 15 years where I've heard a "produced by Dr Dre" and thought 'meh', nothing like before. Many producers like him, Quik and Storch included, I have had that same impression