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Re: MLB 2025 Official Thread
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2025, 02:34:57 AM »
the question is why are they tanking?

the MLB draft is much more of a wildcard than the NBA or NFL draft

unless there is a sure thing prospect coming out of college like a Paul Skenes you are taking your chances with a kid coming out of high school who might not amount to anything

Thank God the Royals have Bobby Witt and aren’t tanking anymore.  The theory goes that they supposedly have a 5 year window now to try to win the championship because that’s the length of Bobby Witt’s contract. 

Still though, the local Sports Talk show was already clamoring to start looking at possible trading away Seth Lugo just because the Royals had a rough road trip last week.  We since swept the Rockies and are back in it.  Latest news and notes on the Royals:

—Witt is back to playing MVP caliber baseball again since slumping at the end of the year and in last years playoffs
—Vinnie Paz is still struggling since his injury at the end of last season but is managing to lead the team in RBI’s
—Salvy finally got it going turning his season around with a great hitting performance against the leagues worst pitching Colorado Rockies
—Royals have worst outfield in baseball ⚾️ they finally gave up and started sending guys down to give their Triple AAA performers a chance.  And it’s worked out so far, Drew Waters has been a big improvement (called up) over MJ Melendez (sent down)
—Kris Bubic and Mikel Garcia are the surprising stars of the Royals this year.  Both hugely talented players who have underperformed in the past now reaching their potential !! 

Royals are hanging in there.  That’s all that’s needed this early in the season.
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Re: MLB 2025 Official Thread: OPENING DAY
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2025, 02:43:58 AM »
the Mets can't hit :snoop:

But homie I’m really excited about what Pete Alonso and Francisco Lendour have done so far this year.  I’m a big fan of Moneyball, I love the movie and am reading the book, and it’s the reason I got back into baseball in 2007 after giving up on the sport after I quit playing in 98’

(I can’t imagine now, looking back as a 43 year old and thinking of my Coach calling up in the spring to ask me if I was on board for the summer and telling him “no”—it reminds me of that Kevin Costner line in Field of Dreams where he says, “what kind of American boy would deny his father for a game of catch”.  Makes it worse that that coach gave me my first job as an umpire and was a great guy, who believed in me as a player, and died of a heart attack a year later)

Sorry, got off track there but that’s why we love baseball, it’s like the eternal fountain of youth makes us feel like kids again..

But back to the subject at hand, I also like Sean Manea and Luis Savvarino on the pitching side because they are also undervalued guys that the Mets were able to make use of because the Mets are a Sabermetrics organization.

So I’m rooting for you guys (go Mets!). The offense will be alright with Alonso, Lendour, and Soto
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Re: MLB 2025 Official Thread: OPENING DAY
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2025, 08:44:54 AM »
But homie I’m really excited about what Pete Alonso and Francisco Lendour have done so far this year.  I’m a big fan of Moneyball, I love the movie and am reading the book, and it’s the reason I got back into baseball in 2007 after giving up on the sport after I quit playing in 98’

(I can’t imagine now, looking back as a 43 year old and thinking of my Coach calling up in the spring to ask me if I was on board for the summer and telling him “no”—it reminds me of that Kevin Costner line in Field of Dreams where he says, “what kind of American boy would deny his father for a game of catch”.  Makes it worse that that coach gave me my first job as an umpire and was a great guy, who believed in me as a player, and died of a heart attack a year later)

Sorry, got off track there but that’s why we love baseball, it’s like the eternal fountain of youth makes us feel like kids again..

But back to the subject at hand, I also like Sean Manea and Luis Savvarino on the pitching side because they are also undervalued guys that the Mets were able to make use of because the Mets are a Sabermetrics organization.

So I’m rooting for you guys (go Mets!). The offense will be alright with Alonso, Lendour, and Soto

yeah I like what I see so far...the thing is we are doing it with no name pitchers who have to go up against Glasnow, Yamamoto, Sasaki and possibly Ohtani in the playoffs...its a pretty tall order

but as far as the division I think its ours to lose...I don't think the Phillies or Braves have got what it takes
 

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Re: MLB 2025 Official Thread: OPENING DAY
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2025, 01:23:09 PM »
yeah I like what I see so far...the thing is we are doing it with no name pitchers who have to go up against Glasnow, Yamamoto, Sasaki and possibly Ohtani in the playoffs...its a pretty tall order

but as far as the division I think its ours to lose...I don't think the Phillies or Braves have got what it takes

Yeah I agree homie, I got the Mets pegged as a team that can go deep in the playoffs but not to the World Series.  But even that makes for a fun year because the beauty of baseball is the 162 games and when you got a team that’s competing day in and day out for 162 that makes for a great summer.

There’s also always the trade deadline.  The Mets could fill those holes in a big way once teams are out of it and ready to cut bait.  In 2015 when the Royals won the World Series can you imagine we got Ben Zobrist and Johnny Ceuto!  I mean you could argue we got our best hitter and our best pitcher at the trade deadline.  So that dramatically transforms a team it’s almost not even fair—we had Omar Infante at 2nd base at the Mendoza line hitting like .200 and then suddenly overnight we replace him at second with Ben Zobrist.  Then Cueto jumps right into the #1 spot in the rotation and the guys girating and twisting and turning in the middle of his throwing motion and pitching gems 💎 in big games.

So there’s always the trade deadline to put the Mets over
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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2025, 05:11:40 AM »
Yeah I agree homie, I got the Mets pegged as a team that can go deep in the playoffs but not to the World Series.  But even that makes for a fun year because the beauty of baseball is the 162 games and when you got a team that’s competing day in and day out for 162 that makes for a great summer.

There’s also always the trade deadline.  The Mets could fill those holes in a big way once teams are out of it and ready to cut bait.  In 2015 when the Royals won the World Series can you imagine we got Ben Zobrist and Johnny Ceuto!  I mean you could argue we got our best hitter and our best pitcher at the trade deadline.  So that dramatically transforms a team it’s almost not even fair—we had Omar Infante at 2nd base at the Mendoza line hitting like .200 and then suddenly overnight we replace him at second with Ben Zobrist.  Then Cueto jumps right into the #1 spot in the rotation and the guys girating and twisting and turning in the middle of his throwing motion and pitching gems 💎 in big games.

So there’s always the trade deadline to put the Mets over

Man I still have nightmares about that 2015 series. I find solace in the fact that the Royals were the better team being there the year before against the Giants. And we had such a weird year, we started off the 1st half with a pretty bad record before the trade deadline acquiring Yoenis Cespedes. So you are right about that, hopefully we can acquire some stud pitcher that becomes available because his team is out of the race

back to that 2015 team the Royals had the uncanny skill of putting the bat on the ball despite us having some of the hardest throwing starting pitchers in the game. That game 2 that Cueto pitched against us we had our best pitcher that year Jacob Degrom and he could not solve Escobar, Hosmer, Moustakas etc. I knew after going down 0-2 it was pretty much a wrap for us
 

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Re: MLB 2025 Official Thread: OPENING DAY
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2025, 08:22:27 PM »
Man I still have nightmares about that 2015 series. I find solace in the fact that the Royals were the better team being there the year before against the Giants. And we had such a weird year, we started off the 1st half with a pretty bad record before the trade deadline acquiring Yoenis Cespedes. So you are right about that, hopefully we can acquire some stud pitcher that becomes available because his team is out of the race

back to that 2015 team the Royals had the uncanny skill of putting the bat on the ball despite us having some of the hardest throwing starting pitchers in the game. That game 2 that Cueto pitched against us we had our best pitcher that year Jacob Degrom and he could not solve Escobar, Hosmer, Moustakas etc. I knew after going down 0-2 it was pretty much a wrap for us

Yeah, our hitters never struck out and always put a bat to ball.  I remember Yornis Cespedes was a big trade for you but without looking it up and off the top of my head I thought they gave up something good for him, and there was also a question about his D like he was fumbling around in the outfield quite a bit.

I can’t believe I put off reading Money Ball until now.  I’ve always been a fan of it but I thought listening to a couple Sabermetrics Sportstalk guys and analysts was enough.  Boy was I wrong.

This book is fascinating.  Have you ever checked it out.  It’s filled with nuggets like this:  Documenting errors comes from the days of the civil war when they played in unmowed grass and with a lopsided ball.  A guy makes a great attempt at a ball and misses he gets an error, and another guy is out of position and lollygags and doesn’t get an error cause he never got close to a ball.  Likewise, a shortstop makes a diving grab and he’s a hero while another shortstop simply moves a step or two before the ball hard hit gets to him and nobody even sees it, he just feilds it cleanly and nobody is the wiser.

I asked chatgpt who is the best Sabermetrics team it said the Mets.  You guys just became my second favorite team.
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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2025, 03:53:30 AM »
Yeah, our hitters never struck out and always put a bat to ball.  I remember Yornis Cespedes was a big trade for you but without looking it up and off the top of my head I thought they gave up something good for him, and there was also a question about his D like he was fumbling around in the outfield quite a bit.

I can’t believe I put off reading Money Ball until now.  I’ve always been a fan of it but I thought listening to a couple Sabermetrics Sportstalk guys and analysts was enough.  Boy was I wrong.

This book is fascinating.  Have you ever checked it out.  It’s filled with nuggets like this:  Documenting errors comes from the days of the civil war when they played in unmowed grass and with a lopsided ball.  A guy makes a great attempt at a ball and misses he gets an error, and another guy is out of position and lollygags and doesn’t get an error cause he never got close to a ball.  Likewise, a shortstop makes a diving grab and he’s a hero while another shortstop simply moves a step or two before the ball hard hit gets to him and nobody even sees it, he just feilds it cleanly and nobody is the wiser.

I asked chatgpt who is the best Sabermetrics team it said the Mets.  You guys just became my second favorite team.

yeah we gave up a starting pitcher who had promise named Michael Fulmer. He had a couple of good years before succumbing to arm problems. Last I heard he was with another team trying to hang on as a reliever

I really need to read that book. Its funny Billy Beane was a prospect for us back in the 80's coming up through the system. He never had a big career as a player but the rest is history of course
 

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Re: MLB 2025 Official Thread: OPENING DAY
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2025, 05:44:31 AM »
yeah we gave up a starting pitcher who had promise named Michael Fulmer. He had a couple of good years before succumbing to arm problems. Last I heard he was with another team trying to hang on as a reliever

I really need to read that book. Its funny Billy Beane was a prospect for us back in the 80's coming up through the system. He never had a big career as a player but the rest is history of course

Yeah but turns out it was really this guy Bill James that had invented all this stuff decades earlier

And if you search Billy Beane you might come up with a different Billy Bean the first gay baseball player to come out the closet around the same era, kind of confusing.

But yes, I think the actual Billy Bean was even like drafted and projected ahead of Strawberry with the Mets.  It details that in the book but the best part was the Bill James chapter.
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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2025, 04:44:57 AM »
Yeah but turns out it was really this guy Bill James that had invented all this stuff decades earlier

And if you search Billy Beane you might come up with a different Billy Bean the first gay baseball player to come out the closet around the same era, kind of confusing.

But yes, I think the actual Billy Bean was even like drafted and projected ahead of Strawberry with the Mets.  It details that in the book but the best part was the Bill James chapter.

yeah i need to read it this summer for sure 8)
 

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Re: MLB 2025 Season Official Thread
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2025, 12:34:37 PM »
Well what do ya know… Mets and Royals have gotten red hot 🥵
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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2025, 02:28:11 AM »
Well what do ya know… Mets and Royals have gotten red hot 🥵

Mets have been struggling the last week...they should be ok though

yeah the Royals are the class of that division...now that they are clicking I would like to see them sweep the Yankees next month lol
 

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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2025, 08:38:24 AM »
The Royals have been solid lately and the Tigers I feel like are better this year too

Dodgers lost yesterday and fucked all my bets up

Yankees seem to have taken a step back even though it’s early.

SF is the surprise. I don’t think anyone expected them to be this good
 

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« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2025, 09:18:53 PM »
Mets have been struggling the last week...they should be ok though

yeah the Royals are the class of that division...now that they are clicking I would like to see them sweep the Yankees next month lol

Royals still aren't there yet.  We aren't ready to play with the big boys of New York.  It's the same story as last year.  Getting fat against the White Sox and weaker opponents and then once we get closer to the trade dead line and teams start tanking, well then the Royals will go on yet another run because they will be among the 12 or so teams that is actually trying to compete.

I'm happy with that though.  Let's just get to to the playoffs again and see what happens.  The Yankees are a superior team, but a couple breaks the other way and the Royals could've topped them and been in the ALCS.   Even just winning one game against them last year was like a dream.  Can you imagine?  BOB COSTAS was calling a Royals Game against the NEW YORK YANKEES to go to the ALCS last year.  This is after we had lost over 100 games the previous season.  Who would've imagined we'd be sparring toe to toe with the Yankees and Bob at the call.  To put that in perspective, BOB COSTAS CALLED THE 1985 WORLD SERIES WHEN GEORGE BRETT WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN BASEBALL AND THE ROYALS WON THEIR FIRST WORLD SERIES.  The Royals in the ALCS in many of those George Brett was the Yankees and Bob at the call. 

There are some crazy people that have this win it all or nothing attitude.  Like, they want the Royals to trade away guys because they know deep down we just aren't there yet as far as topping the Yankees and getting to the World Series.  I hate that attitude.  Thank God, our owners attitude is to just play .500 baseball and try to make the playoffs and be competitive for every year of Bobby Witt's contract.  That's good enough for me.

This is life as a Royals fan, it might be hard for you big market guys to relate.
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« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2025, 07:21:48 AM »
Royals still aren't there yet.  We aren't ready to play with the big boys of New York.  It's the same story as last year.  Getting fat against the White Sox and weaker opponents and then once we get closer to the trade dead line and teams start tanking, well then the Royals will go on yet another run because they will be among the 12 or so teams that is actually trying to compete.

I'm happy with that though.  Let's just get to to the playoffs again and see what happens.  The Yankees are a superior team, but a couple breaks the other way and the Royals could've topped them and been in the ALCS.   Even just winning one game against them last year was like a dream.  Can you imagine?  BOB COSTAS was calling a Royals Game against the NEW YORK YANKEES to go to the ALCS last year.  This is after we had lost over 100 games the previous season.  Who would've imagined we'd be sparring toe to toe with the Yankees and Bob at the call.  To put that in perspective, BOB COSTAS CALLED THE 1985 WORLD SERIES WHEN GEORGE BRETT WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN BASEBALL AND THE ROYALS WON THEIR FIRST WORLD SERIES.  The Royals in the ALCS in many of those George Brett was the Yankees and Bob at the call. 

There are some crazy people that have this win it all or nothing attitude.  Like, they want the Royals to trade away guys because they know deep down we just aren't there yet as far as topping the Yankees and getting to the World Series.  I hate that attitude.  Thank God, our owners attitude is to just play .500 baseball and try to make the playoffs and be competitive for every year of Bobby Witt's contract.  That's good enough for me.

This is life as a Royals fan, it might be hard for you big market guys to relate.

that holds true for the Yankees but we as Met fans are not so different than you...Yes we are in the largest market but until Steve Cohen bought the team around 5 years ago we weren't operating like one...the last time we won a World Series I was almost 5...that was in 1986 so I only remember highlights...since then we have been to the World Series twice, in 2000 against the Yankees and in 2015 against the Royals... we've had a winning record maybe 4 years out of the 9 since then all with different managers each time
 

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Re: MLB 2025 Season Official Thread
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2025, 06:35:46 PM »
KC gettin spanked by St Louis right now. Shits gettin ugly. Shoukda never trusted the royals