Would Eminem be considered the GOAT if he never released music after Relapse?

[Jay_J]

That's exactly what I'm saying tho. Nobody's denying that Recovery had a greater impact on Em's career than Relapse and people loved it a lot back in 2010. But the thing is, as the time passed people started to appreciate Relapse more and now this album is indeed considered a cult classic, while Recovery is mostly looked upon as something that was cool 15 years ago but now is corny af.

Take Skylar Grey for example. Em's records with her (LTWYL, INAD) were massive hits back then, but now everybody wants to roll their eyes when they see her name featured on Em's new albums. On the other hand people disliked the accents and thought the beats were outdated back in 2009, but when Em dropped Discombobulated few years ago most people seemed to love it and put it in their top 3 from the album.

Discombombulated is definately a relapse leftover but you know S-1 and Black Bethoven co-produced the beat and made a beat switch to it and made it sound not outdated. however one song sounds like relapse on whole album makes a difference and satisfies some fans, that's a cool move. but if they put 10 songs sounds like relapse or encore on an album today, it would suck.

Relapse sure will might age better because it belongs to en era that we miss. But recovery belongs to a mainstream era for a quite period. today both are outdated. so one might age better than other. but recovery was suitable for period it came out, relapse was not. em released relapse after very long time and aftermath/interscope pushed it hard on marketing side. so sure it has sold a lot. encore sold a lot too and seems succesful but thats how em's fall off begin.

[Jay_J]

"recovery has just surpassed 5.1 billion streams on Spotify remanining as his 3rd most streamed album to surpass this mark and in turn remains as the most streamed rap album of 2010."

[abusive]

Nah. Em was never the goat. He was a good rapper, he had the interscope machine behind him and due to race he was an anomaly.

[Jay_J]

Nah. Em was never the goat. He was a good rapper, he had the interscope machine behind him and due to race he was an anomaly.

interscope machine was behind bubba sparxxx too.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zLpmzrW_zlw

[HighEyeCue]

Nah. Em was never the goat. He was a good rapper, he had the interscope machine behind him and due to race he was an anomaly.

I agree race played a big factor but you cannot deny the skill set he had...it would be another story if he were wack

[TraceOneInfinite]

i already peeped both official discussion threads on here earlier this morning


and i linked a thread on it from eminem's forum as well in one of my earlier posts


relapse was received wayyyyy better by fans


it's not even close

link me

[TraceOneInfinite]

i doubt she has infinite cd press or raw & uncut

those are super rare

but tell her to holla at me

 

yeah but bro I legit saw your Eminem Infinite album at your crib and you tried to claim it was an original from 97', but whoever the dumbass is that did the liner notes for it, put in some concert photo from Eminem Show Eminem that was the same as the "Sing For The Moment" music video and clearly not from 1997.  I mean it was just a casual convo, so you could've meant something else

but still, would be way more dope if

a) your copy of Infinite was an original press from 97' when Infinite was released
or

b) they re-released it but reprinted the o.g liner notes to try to keep it as close and authentic to the original press as possible (not insert of a photo from Eminem Show concert)

It is an impressive collection though.  But it is missing the Crown Jewel of an o.g Infinite or Slim Shady EP

[TraceOneInfinite]

its hilarious to speak as if relapse was a flop LOL

it went gold in less than a week and was the best selling rap album of 2009

 

Then why did Eminem feel the need to apologize for it? 

[HighEyeCue]

Then why did Eminem feel the need to apologize for it?

Good question

it might have something with him changing his personal beliefs towards the left and maybe he thought the content was just too wild...just a theory

[Duck Duck Doggy]

Then why did Eminem feel the need to apologize for it?

Because compared to his classic run of albums at the time it felt lazy and uninspired

[Sccit]

Then why did Eminem feel the need to apologize for it?

he "matured"


into the rendition u now hate so much lol

[TraceOneInfinite]

Because compared to his classic run of albums at the time it felt lazy and uninspired

Exactly

[Jay_J]

Did he apologize for Encore?

[HighEyeCue]

Did he apologize for Encore?

I think I remember him saying he was cool with about half of it which is exactly how I feel about it

The bad songs were unbelievably bad though

[Jay_J]

I think I remember him saying he was cool with about half of it which is exactly how I feel about it

The bad songs were unbelievably bad though

best songs were leaked; "we as americans, bully, love you more" unfortunately.

dr. dre replaced them with "big winnie, rain man and ass like that"

first album that eminem started to work with luis resto (keyboard player, co-producer) and mike strange (mix engineer) instead  jeff bass (producer, keyboard, guitar player), dj head (drum programmer), steve king (guitar player, mix engineer). eminem also started to mix his own music, compose his own kind of drums. so we get totally a different sound which sonds weaker, not produced and mixed enough.i don't even want to talk about dre productions already. evil deeds and one last time was good songs really but dre was kind of losing his way and eminem mixed those and they sounded under their potential. however eminem was on drugs so bad. because of all these encore was a failure.