Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…

[TraceOneInfinite]

Like Higheyecue knows I’m always fascinated with that forgotten period in West Coast Rap that started with Doggfather flop (I know everyone defends it now but those know who remember its release date) and then ended with “Bitch Please” being released as a single/video for Top Dogg

So let’s say the period from fall 1996 until Spring 1999 — this was the era in West Coast Rap of…

—being trolled for 2 years about a King Tee album that never happened
—Aftermath Presents
—a subpar substandard Gang Related and Gridlocked soundtracks
—Daz heroic RRGB that didn’t even go gold
—Bad Azz solo
—Snoop No Limit

List goes on and on I have to keep adding to the post… but for this thread I’m gonna list all the things wrong with Kuruption album. 

[TraceOneInfinite]

First I wanna start with the track “No Feelings”.  You guys remember when they would put in bold letters the featured tracks on an album usually on the packaging of the cd 💿 they actually had “No Feelings” listed as a feature track. 

The beat is dope, especially the way it switches up, almost like 2 beats mashed into 1, but blended perfectly—but it sounds like a beat Kurupt just bought and recorded over because it’s not fully produced, it’s missing a proper mixdown and outro, they just let the beat play unnecessarily for like a minute as a standalone instrumental—very sloppy.  And some of the lyrics are just atrocious.  Kurupt’s voice sounds good on the track but the lyrics are very generic, and the guest artists on the track sound amateur, look at these lyrics…

“I'm pregnant but only in my mind
Hopin my baby rhyme grows to be a triple platinum album”


“Burn out my PlayStation while cats be Scarfacin”


^^what the hell is that line supposed to mean?  While other cats be out doing dirt he’s playing PlayStation?  And that means he’s got “No Feelings”??

That shit is wack as hell

[gfunk2024]

Kuruption is far more disappointing than doggfather.

My favorite track is It's a Set Up and that is a 10/10 song imo. C-Walk and We can freak it are also really good. The Warren G produced track is good. Ho's a housewife is a let down for a Dre song imo.

Other than that it is a forgettable album for me.

[TraceOneInfinite]

Kuruption is far more disappointing than doggfather.

My favorite track is It's a Set Up and that is a 10/10 song imo. C-Walk and We can freak it are also really good. The Warren G produced track is good. Ho's a housewife is a let down for a Dre song imo.

Other than that it is a forgettable album for me.

The album has some good moments—“Put that on Something” is a banger people never talk about—but I’m making this thread about all the things wrong. 

So what all do you think is wrong with the album? 

I thought “The Set Up” was a bit lazy and underproduced, sounds like a dope beat they just bought and then rapped over and didn’t spend time analyzing all the elements like Dre would like intro/outro, effects, making sure lyrics are done over if they aren’t flawless

[gfunk2024]

The album has some good moments—“Put that on Something” is a banger people never talk about—but I’m making this thread about all the things wrong. 

So what all do you think is wrong with the album? 

I thought “The Set Up” was a bit lazy and underproduced, sounds like a dope beat they just bought and then rapped over and didn’t spend time analyzing all the elements like Dre would like intro/outro, effects, making sure lyrics are done over if they aren’t flawless

The biggest thing wrong with it is production. It is far different than anything we heard kurupt on w/ death row. Next, kurupt fell off big time on this album. He is no where near the kurupt on dogg food. There is more wrong, but those 2 things right there are so big that nothing else could save it.

[HighEyeCue]

Like Higheyecue knows I’m always fascinated with that forgotten period in West Coast Rap that started with Doggfather flop (I know everyone defends it now but those know who remember its release date) and then ended with “Bitch Please” being released as a single/video for Top Dogg

So let’s say the period from fall 1996 until Spring 1999 — this was the era in West Coast Rap of…

—being trolled for 2 years about a King Tee album that never happened
—Aftermath Presents
—a subpar substandard Gang Related and Gridlocked soundtracks
—Daz heroic RRGB that didn’t even go gold
—Bad Azz solo
—Snoop No Limit

List goes on and on I have to keep adding to the post… but for this thread I’m gonna list all the things wrong with Kuruption album. 

I have a love/hate relationship with this album lol

there are elements I love 
 
1. the Warren G track that you mentioned in the other post is one of my favorite tracks by Kurupt and I love the piano keys



2. Kurupt sounds almost like the Death Row Kurupt on a handful of tracks, "Thats Gangsta", "Fresh", "The Life" and a couple more
3. the 2 beats by Daz are classic and so are the ones by Battlecat

now the bad

1.Kurupt just freestyling over a lot of the tracks. This album is where the inconsistency started that has pretty much lasted the remaining years of his career
2.you mentioned "No Feelings" another one that is a head scratcher was "Gimmewhatcugot" featuring some no name Barshawn. Kurupt just freestyling over       
   the beat which is nothing to write home about either but the crazy thing was that this was released as the 2nd single



3.Maybe one of the wackest tracks of all time "I Wanna" which is a shame because the beat by Devante bangs but the lyrics are so cringe worthy



there's more things I want to say about the album but Ill add them at a later time

[Sccit]

actually the west coast disc is great

he's not lyrically at his peak but still was makin dope gangsta shit

the east coast disc is what's wrong wut kuruption.. coulda kept it at just the west coast disc n it woulda been a much more respectable debut

[HighEyeCue]

actually the west coast disc is great

he's not lyrically at his peak but still was makin dope gangsta shit

the east coast disc is what's wrong wut kuruption.. coulda kept it at just the west coast disc n it woulda been a much more respectable debut

yeah he should have listened to Dre when he told him to keep it at one disc

but the double album trend that Pac started with AEOM everyone tried to emulate...Biggie, Wu, Bone Thugs, Kurupt and even Nas who was scheduled to come out with an "I Am" 2CD before it got bootlegged

[TraceOneInfinite]

I have a love/hate relationship with this album lol

there are elements I love 
 
1. the Warren G track that you mentioned in the other post is one of my favorite tracks by Kurupt and I love the piano keys



2. Kurupt sounds almost like the Death Row Kurupt on a handful of tracks, "Thats Gangsta", "Fresh", "The Life" and a couple more
3. the 2 beats by Daz are classic and so are the ones by Battlecat

now the bad

1.Kurupt just freestyling over a lot of the tracks. This album is where the inconsistency started that has pretty much lasted the remaining years of his career
2.you mentioned "No Feelings" another one that is a head scratcher was "Gimmewhatcugot" featuring some no name Barshawn. Kurupt just freestyling over       
   the beat which is nothing to write home about either but the crazy thing was that this was released as the 2nd single



3.Maybe one of the wackest tracks of all time "I Wanna" which is a shame because the beat by Devante bangs but the lyrics are so cringe worthy



there's more things I want to say about the album but Ill add them at a later time

Yeah the Warren G track is dope, as I said this album definitely had its moments—it was just sloppy and inconsistent because Suge wasn’t around to put his foot in someone’s ass or slap Kurupt and tell him get back in the booth or Dre to mix that shit down and cut out all the fat, and threaten to delay the album till it’s done right.  It’s like everything got approved and greenlit

Agreed—

—lol@ them thinking “Gimme What You Got” was a second single, that track doesn’t even deserve to be on an album

—“I Wanna” is aweful and unlistenable

To add more:

—It also made the album look sloppy when the 3rd single—which was the flawless Dre banger “Ask Yourself” got turned in late and didn’t even make the album track listing it had to be added onto the wrapping of the package as like a bonus 12th track.

—then the Dre video was supposed to be a mini-movie but that never came out other than the music video which was weird but still anything was dope seeing Kurupt and Dre together, that song is a personal classic for me

[HighEyeCue]

you are right about "Ask Yourself A Question" the track was a banger

should have been the 2nd single though, maybe it would've blown up more
 

[TraceOneInfinite]

Nobody gonna give love to “Put That On Something”?? That’s an all original track that doesn’t sound like anything else before or after it

[HighEyeCue]

Nobody gonna give love to “Put That On Something”?? That’s an all original track that doesn’t sound like anything else before or after it

I liked it...Devante did that one as well

combine maybe 10 of the 12 West Coast tracks with maybe 3-5 on the East Disc and you have a very solid album

East Coast tracks I would keep for sure

Game - dope beat and Kurupt is flowing effortlessly
The Life - might be the best track on the East disc...El-Drex and Kurupt trading rhymes over a smooth beat
We Can Freak It Out - just the fact that Nore is on it and to have both of them on the track after the NY NY/LA LA beef was dope

[gfunk2024]

Y'all comments got me to re-listen to the West coast disk. The album sucks save a few songs. This was dropped in the golden age of rap...way worse than doggfather. Kurupt is terrible on most of the songs.

[Soopafly DPGC]

Biggest thing i remember about that album was how Kurupt was trying to rebrand himself.  We all knew him from being DPGC and wearing blue and grey and Death Row and all that stuff.  Then this album comes out and he's dressed like a 40's era gangster.  No repping DPG anywhere on the album cover.  I know Suge had the majority of DPG locked under contract and wouldn't let them appear on his album, but the lack of any sort of big Westcoast names other than Dre hurt him.  He could've got Warren, some of the LBC Crew, Crooked I, DOC, RBX, Butch Cassidy, etc, some of the other DPG affiliates who weren't under Death Row contract on the album.  He was really repping Philly hard on this, trying to be more eastcoast, and the hardcore fans knew he was from Philly, but the casual fans knew him as a West Coast rapper.  It was a big change that most people didn't like.  Of course, he switched and went back to his roots on Streetz Iz A Mutha and you saw how that album blew up. When DAZ left Death Row, he came out with RAW, which was basically the same old Daz, working with the same people, didn't change anything, and it worked well.  Kurupt should've done that too.

AND, the worst part is ASK YOURSELF A QUESTION feat Dre was a last minute addition.  It wasn't even on the tracklist but just a sticker on the album cover, and not every album had the sticker, so he couldn't use Dre's name to help sell records, which was a big deal at the time.  I really think Kurupt was trying to get under Dre's team and become part of that and Dre was on that whole "Gangster Rap is Dead" era so Kurupt was trying to go that route.  But just like Dre ended up doing, he went back to gangster rap.  I think both Dre and Kurupt would've continued down the 'non gangster rap' line had it worked for them. 

[Sccit]

Biggest thing i remember about that album was how Kurupt was trying to rebrand himself.  We all knew him from being DPGC and wearing blue and grey and Death Row and all that stuff.  Then this album comes out and he's dressed like a 40's era gangster.  No repping DPG anywhere on the album cover.  I know Suge had the majority of DPG locked under contract and wouldn't let them appear on his album, but the lack of any sort of big Westcoast names other than Dre hurt him.  He could've got Warren, some of the LBC Crew, Crooked I, DOC, RBX, Butch Cassidy, etc, some of the other DPG affiliates who weren't under Death Row contract on the album.  He was really repping Philly hard on this, trying to be more eastcoast, and the hardcore fans knew he was from Philly, but the casual fans knew him as a West Coast rapper.  It was a big change that most people didn't like.  Of course, he switched and went back to his roots on Streetz Iz A Mutha and you saw how that album blew up. When DAZ left Death Row, he came out with RAW, which was basically the same old Daz, working with the same people, didn't change anything, and it worked well.  Kurupt should've done that too.

AND, the worst part is ASK YOURSELF A QUESTION feat Dre was a last minute addition.  It wasn't even on the tracklist but just a sticker on the album cover, and not every album had the sticker, so he couldn't use Dre's name to help sell records, which was a big deal at the time.  I really think Kurupt was trying to get under Dre's team and become part of that and Dre was on that whole "Gangster Rap is Dead" era so Kurupt was trying to go that route.  But just like Dre ended up doing, he went back to gangster rap.  I think both Dre and Kurupt would've continued down the 'non gangster rap' line had it worked for them.

what??



kuruption was fulla west coast gangsta shit

c-walk was a crip anthem and featured tray deee and slip capone

fresh featuring daz was classic dpg shit

can't let that slide wit roscoe, another dpg track

that's gangsta was produced by warren g.. and clearly indicates he wasn't stepping away from the gangsta image lol

i think u need to revisit that album