Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…

[HighEyeCue]

dubcc servers wildin

we lost lots of replies in here


i'll repost them 1 by 1:

yeah I noticed that

I must've tried to post the same message like in 5 different ways that night 

[Sccit]

yeah I noticed that

I must've tried to post the same message like in 5 different ways that night 

you did ..

i can see all of them

u ain't the only one tho

eddz and infinite have 5 or 6 re-attempts too lol

[Eddz]

C-Walk is one of the hardest tracks ever 

[TraceOneInfinite]

C-Walk is one of the hardest tracks ever 

Hard to find much wrong wit that joint, no doubt

[HighEyeCue]

C-Walk is one of the hardest tracks ever 

both “C-Walk” and “We Can Freak It” are classic west coast tracks

[TraceOneInfinite]

both “C-Walk” and “We Can Freak It” are classic west coast tracks

Can’t argue with that. 

[TraceOneInfinite]

I liked it...Devante did that one as well

combine maybe 10 of the 12 West Coast tracks with maybe 3-5 on the East Disc and you have a very solid album

East Coast tracks I would keep for sure

Game - dope beat and Kurupt is flowing effortlessly
The Life - might be the best track on the East disc...El-Drex and Kurupt trading rhymes over a smooth beat
We Can Freak It Out - just the fact that Nore is on it and to have both of them on the track after the NY NY/LA LA beef was dope

That's so dope man.. Jodeci and KC & JoJo are the only R&B artists that I can listen to their non-singles.  I like R&B radio hits but I can't listen to artists album cuts or play albums front to back.  Jodeci/KC&JoJo are the only exception.

...and how spectacular is that the crossover that Devante was able to produce two bangers like "No More Pain" for Pac and "Put that on Something" for Kurupt that don't sound like anything that has ever came before or after.  "No More Pain" changed the game and "Put That On Something" these two tracks Devante deserves so much credit for.

I do vaguely remember hearing something about Timbaland being a ghost producer for Devante and before Timbaland got big Devante used to steal his sounds and the track "No More Pain" was mentioned.  Obviously, I'm a way bigger Devante fan than Timbaland so I'm takin nothing away from Devante but I'm just mentioning because it's an interesting backstory, and Timbaland was of course a very innovative producer in his own right.

[TraceOneInfinite]

Y'all comments got me to re-listen to the West coast disk. The album sucks save a few songs. This was dropped in the golden age of rap...way worse than doggfather. Kurupt is terrible on most of the songs.

That's a good comp Doggfather and Kuruption.  I should maybe start my own thread comparing the two.  Because both were presumed to still be in their prime—but sadly—we found out they weren't.  Yet, both albums still hold a special place for us and had their moments.

[TraceOneInfinite]

Biggest thing i remember about that album was how Kurupt was trying to rebrand himself.  We all knew him from being DPGC and wearing blue and grey and Death Row and all that stuff.  Then this album comes out and he's dressed like a 40's era gangster.  No repping DPG anywhere on the album cover.  I know Suge had the majority of DPG locked under contract and wouldn't let them appear on his album, but the lack of any sort of big Westcoast names other than Dre hurt him.  He could've got Warren, some of the LBC Crew, Crooked I, DOC, RBX, Butch Cassidy, etc, some of the other DPG affiliates who weren't under Death Row contract on the album.  He was really repping Philly hard on this, trying to be more eastcoast, and the hardcore fans knew he was from Philly, but the casual fans knew him as a West Coast rapper.  It was a big change that most people didn't like.  Of course, he switched and went back to his roots on Streetz Iz A Mutha and you saw how that album blew up. When DAZ left Death Row, he came out with RAW, which was basically the same old Daz, working with the same people, didn't change anything, and it worked well.  Kurupt should've done that too.

AND, the worst part is ASK YOURSELF A QUESTION feat Dre was a last minute addition.  It wasn't even on the tracklist but just a sticker on the album cover, and not every album had the sticker, so he couldn't use Dre's name to help sell records, which was a big deal at the time.  I really think Kurupt was trying to get under Dre's team and become part of that and Dre was on that whole "Gangster Rap is Dead" era so Kurupt was trying to go that route.  But just like Dre ended up doing, he went back to gangster rap.  I think both Dre and Kurupt would've continued down the 'non gangster rap' line had it worked for them.

People are arguing you about this, but I understand exactly what you mean because we are the same age and we lived all this transition in real time.

Ofcouse, the West Coast disc did have it's bangers where Kurupt worked with the usual cast of characters—but I totally get what you mean about the change in image, compared to Dogg Food that came before, and then Streetz is a Mutha that came after.

I don't think there was anything wrong though with the image change.  I thought it was dope as hell actually.  In fact, a lot of the overall look and concept of the album was great, it was just done a bit sloppy.  Like, remember those commercials they used to play on BET all the rhyme (time) hyping the album.  It was kind of cool in a way, but lacked the Dre level of short, no excess, focused perfection like with the Dogg Food project.

[TraceOneInfinite]

the version of "Fresh" on the album > the OG unreleased version

You're right, and good find

[HighEyeCue]

The East Coast Disc would have benefited if it included more of these type tracks

Kurupt and Phillys Ram Squad

beat reminds me of something Nas and AZ would spit over

[TraceOneInfinite]

The East Coast Disc would have benefited if it included more of these type tracks

Kurupt and Phillys Ram Squad

beat reminds me of something Nas and AZ would spit over

Not sure about that ^ one,

but the East Coast track I thought Kurupt sounded good on was that Pete Rock joint was a banger back in the day with Inspectah Deck.  It came out and was probably recording around the same rhyme (time), would've been dope if Pete Rock would've let him share that track because it would've greatly enhanced the East Coast disc.



Interesting Pete Rock mentions Trump in the song.  Because years later, he was even one of the few rappers along with Lord Jammar and Busta that stood up against Coward-19 and other woke politics

[HighEyeCue]

Not sure about that ^ one,

but the East Coast track I thought Kurupt sounded good on was that Pete Rock joint was a banger back in the day with Inspectah Deck.  It came out and was probably recording around the same rhyme (time), would've been dope if Pete Rock would've let him share that track because it would've greatly enhanced the East Coast disc.



Interesting Pete Rock mentions Trump in the song.  Because years later, he was even one of the few rappers along with Lord Jammar and Busta that stood up against Coward-19 and other woke politics

yeah Tru Master is a banger..."In hot pursuit of Donald Trump rap loot" was a dope line by Pete Rock

Deck set it off the whole track like only he can and Kurupt was dope as hell "Im the epicenter of this natural disaster, Im disastrous with stashes, cold and hot flashes"

there was also the "You Know My Steez" remix recorded the same year which to my knowledge is the only time Kurupt spit over a Premier beat

[TraceOneInfinite]

yeah Tru Master is a banger..."In hot pursuit of Donald Trump rap loot" was a dope line by Pete Rock

Deck set it off the whole track like only he can and Kurupt was dope as hell "Im the epicenter of this natural disaster, Im disastrous with stashes, cold and hot flashes"

there was also the "You Know My Steez" remix recorded the same year which to my knowledge is the only time Kurupt spit over a Premier beat

Great post,

Yeah man, now you gonna get me off on a Gangstarr vibe tracks like that one and “Royalty”, “Mass Appeal, “Full Clip” are so clean, and you’re right it was around the same time so it’s not far out to conceive of a joint like that being on the East Coast disc but nothing comes close to this and “True Master”

Though I did love “The Life” and can still play it on repeat that’s my fav song on the East Coast disc by far

[Soopafly DPGC]

People are arguing you about this, but I understand exactly what you mean because we are the same age and we lived all this transition in real time.

Ofcouse, the West Coast disc did have it's bangers where Kurupt worked with the usual cast of characters—but I totally get what you mean about the change in image, compared to Dogg Food that came before, and then Streetz is a Mutha that came after.

I don't think there was anything wrong though with the image change.  I thought it was dope as hell actually.  In fact, a lot of the overall look and concept of the album was great, it was just done a bit sloppy.  Like, remember those commercials they used to play on BET all the rhyme (time) hyping the album.  It was kind of cool in a way, but lacked the Dre level of short, no excess, focused perfection like with the Dogg Food project.

So true homie, you and I were there when these albums first dropped.  I was sitting at Best Buy on new release Tuesday waiting to get this album, same with Doggfather.  And this disappointment was real.  Knowing you had to wait years before another album from either dropped.  It wasn't like you could just download songs, you bought a CD, you listened to it whether it was good or not cause that's all you had.  There was no internet, the only news was through The Source or Rap Pages, like once a month.  So we had no idea what was going through Snoop or Kurupt's minds when they totally switched up their appearance for these albums.  Last time I saw Kurupt was on the Doggy Dogg World video dressed like a pimp.  Then I hear he has an album coming out and i'm pumped.  I go to buy it, and he's dressed like a 40's gangster on the cover rapping over an entire disc of east coast beats, like WTF?  And none of the original DPGs are on the album, he's rapping with people like Baby S, El Drex, Roscoe, cats i've never even heard of back then.  I was hella disappointed.  Kuruption grew on me after a while, but just like Doggfather, it wasn't at all what i was expecting.  It's easy for these younger guys to look back in hindsight and praise this album but unless you actually lived through it, you won't fully understand.