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Re: Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…
« Reply #75 on: July 23, 2025, 04:03:56 AM »
Kurupt freestyling again...sometimes it came out dope but sometimes it came out like that

that Battlecat beat was crazy however...really all 4 of the ones he did

Ive been listening to it a lot lately...really if Kurupt was in top form or at least in Streetz form we would be talking about a classic West Coast disc

It was all laid out for him.  1998 was the last BIG opportunity for an artist of Kurupts caliber to go platinum.  The industry was at its optimum health:

—pre-MP3 and Napster explosion that took off in 99’
—even B-Team No Limit artists were pushing major units in 98’
—MTV and BET were at the height of their music video popularity pushin artists
—All the rap magazines like Source, XXL on the rise, Blaze, Rap Pages, in full effect pushin artists
—Kurupt had yet to fail his credibility was untarnished and he was coming off platinum albums Dogg Food and platinum guest appearances
—Respected by all the producers, rappers in the game, anyone would answer their phone if he called for a beat or a guest appearance
—He was still in his physical prime around only age 25 still
—He got backing from the major A&M and they granted him his own label ANTRA and budget for the album to give him every chance to turn in a classic
—radio was still big and “We Can Freak It” was getting solid airplay
—commercials promoting the album every commercial break on BET rap city

^^All this and he takes probably 2 minutes to write his verses or just goes in a booth and just rhymes,

“Dumpin
Pumpin
Jumpin
Dippin
Dashin
Mashin
Crashin
Fashion
Loc
Toc
Smoke
Spark it
Start it
Park it
Target
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HighEyeCue

Re: Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…
« Reply #76 on: July 23, 2025, 07:39:42 AM »
It was all laid out for him.  1998 was the last BIG opportunity for an artist of Kurupts caliber to go platinum.  The industry was at its optimum health:

—pre-MP3 and Napster explosion that took off in 99’
—even B-Team No Limit artists were pushing major units in 98’
—MTV and BET were at the height of their music video popularity pushin artists
—All the rap magazines like Source, XXL on the rise, Blaze, Rap Pages, in full effect pushin artists
—Kurupt had yet to fail his credibility was untarnished and he was coming off platinum albums Dogg Food and platinum guest appearances
—Respected by all the producers, rappers in the game, anyone would answer their phone if he called for a beat or a guest appearance
—He was still in his physical prime around only age 25 still
—He got backing from the major A&M and they granted him his own label ANTRA and budget for the album to give him every chance to turn in a classic

^^All this and he takes probably 2 minutes to write his verses or just goes in a booth and just rhymes,

“Dumpin
Pumpin
Jumpin
Dippin
Dashin
Mashin
Crashin
Fashion
Loc
Toc
Smoke
Spark it
Start it
Park it
Target

one of the worst verses I heard Kurupt ever spit was on the Ras Kass track "Ice Age" that same year...same freestyle flow just rhyming random words




 

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Re: Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…
« Reply #77 on: July 23, 2025, 01:25:14 PM »
one of the worst verses I heard Kurupt ever spit was on the Ras Kass track "Ice Age" that same year...same freestyle flow just rhyming random words



Yeah seriously, someone has got to ask him in an interview what happened, because he clearly wasn’t writing the same way after Death Row
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Re: Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…
« Reply #78 on: July 23, 2025, 04:15:52 PM »
Yeah seriously, someone has got to ask him in an interview what happened, because he clearly wasn’t writing the same way after Death Row

it's energy

he was around dre, snoop, DOC, Rage, RBX during the death row days

draws inspiration

rhyming has a lot to do with the energy u surround yaself wit
 
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Re: Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…
« Reply #79 on: July 24, 2025, 07:45:38 AM »
it's energy

he was around dre, snoop, DOC, Rage, RBX during the death row days

draws inspiration

rhyming has a lot to do with the energy u surround yaself wit

I did hear him say something in one interview about “we did make wack shit at Death Row, you guys just weren’t hearing it”.

Meaning that the quality standard of perfectionism that Dre established there meant they recorded something like 100 tracks for Dogg Food and we only heard the 17 or so that met the standard
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« Reply #80 on: July 24, 2025, 10:20:53 AM »
it's energy

he was around dre, snoop, DOC, Rage, RBX during the death row days

draws inspiration

rhyming has a lot to do with the energy u surround yaself wit

Facts...there's a big difference between the Death Row crew and Foxy Brown/Pretty Boy

one story I heard that Kurupt was so drunk one night that he actually let Foxy write his 1st verse on this track

 

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Re: Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…
« Reply #81 on: July 24, 2025, 02:44:40 PM »
Facts...there's a big difference between the Death Row crew and Foxy Brown/Pretty Boy

one story I heard that Kurupt was so drunk one night that he actually let Foxy write his 1st verse on this track



See listening to that and even the Ras Kass song I can see him saying, “that shit bumps it’s dope”.  He was on a BET Rap City interview in the Dogg Food era and said him and Daz would argue because Daz would keep wanting to change shit and he would be like “nah it’s dope”

I think it comes down to that, B Legit, Bad Azz (“Money Houses and Cars”) and Rass label cut him a check or whatever, shit sounded dope enough he had a good time in the studio hung out with them and all that was good enough for Kurupt.

And there was no Dre, no Suge, no Daz, no Snoop, no Warren G—nobody around that was his equal or above to put a foot in his ass and tell him to do shit over again.  B Legit, Bad Azz, and Rass aren’t on his level as far as stripes in the game to tell him, “yo Kurupt what the fucc was that that shit was weak, I need some shit like what u were doing on Dogg Food, do your shit over again”.

For Pete Rock he gave his A game maybe because Pete Rock is a producer so he made Kurupt do the shit right
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« Reply #82 on: July 25, 2025, 01:10:39 AM »
Snoop was my hero as a kid.  He fell in line with Hulk Hogan, Sylvester Stallone, Michael Jordan, Joe Montana, your hero is always supposed to come through for you when you need him most.

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Re: Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…
« Reply #83 on: July 25, 2025, 01:25:34 AM »
RIP The Super Destroyer

No doubt brother,

Hogan my first hero.  Woke up on a Saturday morning to find my brother in front of the TV watching Hogan’s “Rock-n-Wrestling”. 

I would say RIP but any true Hogan fan knows Hulkamania never dies !!!
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Re: Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…
« Reply #84 on: July 25, 2025, 03:17:33 AM »
See listening to that and even the Ras Kass song I can see him saying, “that shit bumps it’s dope”.  He was on a BET Rap City interview in the Dogg Food era and said him and Daz would argue because Daz would keep wanting to change shit and he would be like “nah it’s dope”

I think it comes down to that, B Legit, Bad Azz (“Money Houses and Cars”) and Rass label cut him a check or whatever, shit sounded dope enough he had a good time in the studio hung out with them and all that was good enough for Kurupt.

And there was no Dre, no Suge, no Daz, no Snoop, no Warren G—nobody around that was his equal or above to put a foot in his ass and tell him to do shit over again.  B Legit, Bad Azz, and Rass aren’t on his level as far as stripes in the game to tell him, “yo Kurupt what the fucc was that that shit was weak, I need some shit like what u were doing on Dogg Food, do your shit over again”.

For Pete Rock he gave his A game maybe because Pete Rock is a producer so he made Kurupt do the shit right

yeah man I think the problem was a combination of a lot of factors...like Sccit brought up the people surrounding him at the time...I remember Dre mentioning to him not to do a double album, if Dre would have had any type of input or involvement other than the last minute addition of "Ask Yourself A Question" we are looking at a totally different project
 

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Re: Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…
« Reply #85 on: July 25, 2025, 03:39:36 AM »
I went to listen to Kuruption today on Spotify and it's not on there, annoying.
 

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Re: Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…
« Reply #86 on: July 25, 2025, 07:55:03 AM »
yeah man I think the problem was a combination of a lot of factors...like Sccit brought up the people surrounding him at the time...I remember Dre mentioning to him not to do a double album, if Dre would have had any type of input or involvement other than the last minute addition of "Ask Yourself A Question" we are looking at a totally different project

I’d like to see a breakdown of the sales for the album.  From what I remember it didn’t look good.  Just like Daz he only came in at #6 selling probably 100,000 the first week and that may have only been 50,000 but they counted it double.  “We Can Freak It” had already been out since August and the album had been pushed back to October but still wasn’t pushed back enough because the liner notes were missing some of the better songs.

So then Kurupt released the weakest single/video we’d ever seen any Death Row related artist release up to that point that wack “Gimme What U Got”.  The track did bump in in the stereo a bit but not single worthy.

Then he got a second push finally with the Dre track “Ask Yourself”.   I wonder how much that boosted the album sales.  He was on MTV talking about the video and he says like it’s nothing, “Dre’s doing my my whole second album.”

And I’m like… “yeah right”

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Re: Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…
« Reply #87 on: July 25, 2025, 08:58:22 AM »
I went to listen to Kuruption today on Spotify and it's not on there, annoying.


yes it is

https://open.spotify.com/album/4dSH1oNZoziNjKAanUimWd

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Re: Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…
« Reply #88 on: July 25, 2025, 09:00:07 AM »
No doubt brother,

Hogan my first hero.  Woke up on a Saturday morning to find my brother in front of the TV watching Hogan’s “Rock-n-Wrestling”. 

I would say RIP but any true Hogan fan knows Hulkamania never dies !!!


RIP to a legend

what do u make of his racist remarks?

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Re: Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…
« Reply #89 on: July 25, 2025, 11:24:57 AM »

RIP to a legend

what do u make of his racist remarks?


It’s 2025, everyone is a racist by the standards of today.  Calling someone and accusing someone of being a racist has gotten so overdone and so cliche’ that I’m numb to it.

Not to mention the double standard that everyone is allowed to say anything they want about whites without facing any backlash.

Everything isn’t about race.  There’s more to life than answering the question of, “oh my god, but is he a racist?”
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