Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…

[Sccit]

It’s 2025, everyone is a racist by the standards of today.  Calling someone and accusing someone of being a racist has gotten so overdone and so cliche’ that I’m numb to it.

Not to mention the double standard that everyone is allowed to say anything they want about whites without facing any backlash.

Everything isn’t about race.  There’s more to life than answering the question of, “oh my god, but is he a racist?”

i agree that cancel culture has gotten outa hand

but u didn't answer the question

 

[HighEyeCue]

I’d like to see a breakdown of the sales for the album.  From what I remember it didn’t look good.  Just like Daz he only came in at #6 selling probably 100,000 the first week and that may have only been 50,000 but they counted it double.  “We Can Freak It” had already been out since August and the album had been pushed back to October but still wasn’t pushed back enough because the liner notes were missing some of the better songs.

So then Kurupt released the weakest single/video we’d ever seen any Death Row related artist release up to that point that wack “Gimme What U Got”.  The track did bump in in the stereo a bit but not single worthy.

Then he got a second push finally with the Dre track “Ask Yourself”.   I wonder how much that boosted the album sales.  He was on MTV talking about the video and he says like it’s nothing, “Dre’s doing my my whole second album.”

And I’m like… “yeah right”

according to ChatGPT it came in at #8 at 82,000 copies...thats the only confirmed figure however

as for what it has sold up to now I doubt its more than 400-450k if that

[Eddz]

yes it is

https://open.spotify.com/album/4dSH1oNZoziNjKAanUimWd

Can only listen to 3 tracks on that link, unless it's just not on the Australian version of Spotify.

[Sccit]

Can only listen to 3 tracks on that link, unless it's just not on the Australian version of Spotify.

it all works here in los angeles

[TraceOneInfinite]

according to ChatGPT it came in at #8 at 82,000 copies...thats the only confirmed figure however

as for what it has sold up to now I doubt its more than 400-450k if that

They don't even have figures on it, but it's not good.  That 82,000 first week is actually only 41,000 in the first week because they counted as double.

My guess is he sold 150,000 doubled to put him at 300,000 to 400,000 albums but not even gold, and he definitely didn't go gold during his era because the Source used to do a pretty solid job listing gold and platinum albums at the end of every year.

I bet Kurupt was shocked when the sales figures came in.  He thought he had his own label and was going to be the next Master P, Dre, Suge, Jay-Z, Dame Dash, Ruff Ryders, So So Def.

That was the thing then, the industry was so healthy a lot of these majors were giving away 100's of thousands to millions to rappers to have their own imprints/labels and he had ANTRA and Baby S.

Then, after those first week sales figures came in you never heard shit about ANTRA and Kurupts "label" anymore.  The only thing you heard was him and everybody else begging Dr. Dre to get his career back to where it was supposed to be.

[TraceOneInfinite]

i agree that cancel culture has gotten outa hand

but u didn't answer the question

 

That's how people talked in the 1980's I'm old enough to remember, up until the early half of the 90's it was nicca this and nicca that, I heard all that type of stuff growing up.  Even for me and my friends, it was like when you discovered any sort of "bad" word like "69" or "cunt", the most popular guy in the 6th grade was the kid that knew the most cuss words, lol.

But you wanna know what's more important?  Even though people talked that way, when it came down to it, they still had black friends, broke bread with black people, and even loved and admired black people.  As did Hogan.  Just look at the first time I ever saw Hogan was when he was going cross country with the legendary Mr. T and we as kids all believed 100% that him and Mr. T were best friends and they had joined forces to fight evil in the world.  So all the 80's kids grew up believing Hogan was best friends with a black man Mr. T.  That matters way more than some "racist" (I put in quotes cause everything is called racist these days) comments he made in private.

The racist talk didn't really stop till after Pac died in 1996' all of that stuff kind of went away.  The world really got passed the talk and then these woke liberals brought it all back to the forefront in 2015 because it's the only way they can get elected anymore, is to accuse the opposition of being racist.  Also, it's likely a deeper agenda to push the race thing, the gender thing, etc



^^Look at the big, bad racist going around the whole country preparing for Wrestlemania 1 with his best friend Mr. T fighting evil in the world, and teaching kids to take their vitamins, and say their prayers.

[HighEyeCue]

That's how people talked in the 1980's I'm old enough to remember, up until the early half of the 90's it was nicca this and nicca that, I heard all that type of stuff growing up.  Even for me and my friends, it was like when you discovered any sort of "bad" word like "69" or "cunt", the most popular guy in the 6th grade was the kid that knew the most cuss words, lol.

But you wanna know what's more important?  Even though people talked that way, when it came down to it, they still had black friends, broke bread with black people, and even loved and admired black people.  As did Hogan.  Just look at the first time I ever saw Hogan was when he was going cross country with the legendary Mr. T and we as kids all believed 100% that him and Mr. T were best friends and they had joined forces to fight evil in the world.  So all the 80's kids grew up believing Hogan was best friends with a black man Mr. T.  That matters way more than some "racist" (I put in quotes cause everything is called racist these days) comments he made in private.

The racist talk didn't really stop till after Pac died in 1996' all of that stuff kind of went away.  The world really got passed the talk and then these woke liberals brought it all back to the forefront in 2015 because it's the only way they can get elected anymore, is to accuse the opposition of being racist.  Also, it's likely a deeper agenda to push the race thing, the gender thing, etc



^^Look at the big, bad racist going around the whole country preparing for Wrestlemania 1 with his best friend Mr. T fighting evil in the world, and teaching kids to take their vitamins, and say their prayers.

growing up in NYC in the 90s almost every teen was using the word "nicca"...if you ever saw that movie "Kids" it was very similar to what was going on here at the time...it was never a racist thing it was just the popular lingo used at the time by the youth

[HighEyeCue]

They don't even have figures on it, but it's not good.  That 82,000 first week is actually only 41,000 in the first week because they counted as double.

My guess is he sold 150,000 doubled to put him at 300,000 to 400,000 albums but not even gold, and he definitely didn't go gold during his era because the Source used to do a pretty solid job listing gold and platinum albums at the end of every year.

I bet Kurupt was shocked when the sales figures came in.  He thought he had his own label and was going to be the next Master P, Dre, Suge, Jay-Z, Dame Dash, Ruff Ryders, So So Def.

That was the thing then, the industry was so healthy a lot of these majors were giving away 100's of thousands to millions to rappers to have their own imprints/labels and he had ANTRA and Baby S.

Then, after those first week sales figures came in you never heard shit about ANTRA and Kurupts "label" anymore.  The only thing you heard was him and everybody else begging Dr. Dre to get his career back to where it was supposed to be.

I didnt even consider the double album effect...same thing with AEOM which had 565k 1st week but really was around 282k

[TraceOneInfinite]

growing up in NYC in the 90s almost every teen was using the word "nicca"...if you ever saw that movie "Kids" it was very similar to what was going on here at the time...it was never a racist thing it was just the popular lingo used at the time by the youth

KIDS was a great, great movie.  And so true to the times.  I mean, we were in the midwest, but it really hit home, because we were the same age as the kids in the movie, and they were definitely the type of kids that would've been popular at my school, like the baggie skateboard vibe, and the kids that were already doing drugs and parents let them do whatever the fucc they wanted.  I was a bit intimidated by them but still tried to be a poser and pretend I was living the same kind of life to a lesser degree of course.

(Except, I didn't like that they had to put the political angle agenda at the end with Dr. Fraud Fauci and his "MAGIC JOHNSON HAS AIDS AND WILL DIE AND EVERY WOMAN HE SLEPT WITH IS GONNA BE DEAD SO NOBODY HAVE SEX" bullshit.  Magic tests negative now, btw most people don't even know that they think the reason he's alive is cause he's rich and pays for medicine, they don't even know he's not even HIV positive because it was all a hoax)

[HighEyeCue]

KIDS was a great, great movie.  And so true to the times.  I mean, we were in the midwest, but it really hit home, because we were the same age as the kids in the movie, and they were definitely the type of kids that would've been popular at my school, like the baggie skateboard vibe, and the kids that were already doing drugs and parents let them do whatever the fucc they wanted.  I was a bit intimidated by them but still tried to be a poser and pretend I was living the same kind of life to a lesser degree of course.

(Except, I didn't like that they had to put the political angle agenda at the end with Dr. Fraud Fauci and his "MAGIC JOHNSON HAS AIDS AND WILL DIE AND EVERY WOMAN HE SLEPT WITH IS GONNA BE DEAD SO NOBODY HAVE SEX" bullshit.  Magic tests negative now, btw most people don't even know that they think the reason he's alive is cause he's rich and pays for medicine, they don't even know he's not even HIV positive because it was all a hoax)

yeah man it was a great movie, very realistic to what was going on here in NYC at the time...Rosario Dawson was fine as hell in it too

and as far as the Magic HIV thing yeah they were pushing that angle hard back then...and what was Magics part in this whole farce? did he even have one? did they just want him out of the NBA? there are numerous possibilities but anyway lol

[Sccit]

That's how people talked in the 1980's I'm old enough to remember, up until the early half of the 90's it was nicca this and nicca that, I heard all that type of stuff growing up.  Even for me and my friends, it was like when you discovered any sort of "bad" word like "69" or "cunt", the most popular guy in the 6th grade was the kid that knew the most cuss words, lol.

But you wanna know what's more important?  Even though people talked that way, when it came down to it, they still had black friends, broke bread with black people, and even loved and admired black people.  As did Hogan.  Just look at the first time I ever saw Hogan was when he was going cross country with the legendary Mr. T and we as kids all believed 100% that him and Mr. T were best friends and they had joined forces to fight evil in the world.  So all the 80's kids grew up believing Hogan was best friends with a black man Mr. T.  That matters way more than some "racist" (I put in quotes cause everything is called racist these days) comments he made in private.

The racist talk didn't really stop till after Pac died in 1996' all of that stuff kind of went away.  The world really got passed the talk and then these woke liberals brought it all back to the forefront in 2015 because it's the only way they can get elected anymore, is to accuse the opposition of being racist.  Also, it's likely a deeper agenda to push the race thing, the gender thing, etc



^^Look at the big, bad racist going around the whole country preparing for Wrestlemania 1 with his best friend Mr. T fighting evil in the world, and teaching kids to take their vitamins, and say their prayers.

yea i agree with u, only hulk was actually saying "i don't want my daughter around niggers" ... wasn't saying "nigga" to be down. he literally said "yea, im racist.. fucking niggers" word for word.

then in a seperate incident, after his son was nearly killed in a car wreck, his primary concern was that his family would be reincarnated into a black family as a curse because of karma lol

so while you're right about "niggA" bein the lingo back then, Hulk was clearly on some "fuck these niggERs" type shit ... as opposed to just using it because it was the thing to do at the time




i do agree that people fuck up and that shouldn't be what defines him, especially not in death .. just knew you'd have an interesting take on it, which is why i asked

[Soopafly DPGC]

i agree that cancel culture has gotten outa hand

but u didn't answer the question

 

A true racist is defined by their actions.  Yeah Hogan used some slurs, but nearly every black wrestler he has ever worked with came out and said he was nothing but the nicest guy, even helped many get started in the business.  Tiny Lister (Zeus) said Hogan treated him with nothing but respect, same thing with Mr. T.  So, you have a tape of him going on tirade saying some racial slurs.  And you have 40 years in the business with proof of him treating black people with respect, granting countless Make A Wishes, etc

So to me, I base it on actions, not words.  His actions are not the actions of a racist. 

[TraceOneInfinite]

yeah man it was a great movie, very realistic to what was going on here in NYC at the time...Rosario Dawson was fine as hell in it too

and as far as the Magic HIV thing yeah they were pushing that angle hard back then...and what was Magics part in this whole farce? did he even have one? did they just want him out of the NBA? there are numerous possibilities but anyway lol

It was just anything to ramp up the fear.  So they had these major celebrities—Magic and Tommy Morrison who test positive and people were legit afraid to have sex around that time for fear of AIDS.  Well Magic isn’t the type to really investigate and take on the industry but Tommy did.  His wife has exposed so much.  They’ve never been able to find out where that one positive test supposedly came from—yet he had his whole life ruined over it.  He was scheduled to face Mike Tyson in like a 50 mill fight.

He’s always tested negative since, as has Magic Johnson.  But it’s so telling that people never knew that because the negative tests were never publicized—but the one time these guys supposedly tested positive it was front page news all over the media and my entire 6th grade had to meet in the gym for one of those big talks about HIV and AIDS when Magic tested positive.

Tommy also went around to all the thousands of women he slept with and none of them ever turned up sick from this supposedly deadly contagious spreading virus.  Same with Magic and Eazy E—if it’s so deadly and so contagious the obvious red flag 🚩 that shows the whole thing as a hoax for anyone that thinks critically is how come none of their wives and families turned up wit anything!

To me, it’s as simple as this.  Take Coward-19 for example.  A husband and wife both go to the clinic—one tests positive and the other one negative.  Forget all the other mountains of evidence—that’s all I need to know to know that something doesn’t add up.  You are sleeping with someone and can’t even pass to them this supposedly deadly contagion and yet everyone where masks and entire world on lockdown?!? 

Go ahead, laugh at the flat earther since you are all spinning at thousands of miles per hour swimming upside down on the bottom of your ball 🌍 floating in outer space pray to not get hit by your meteor ☄️ as you seek to see if there is alien 👽 life on Mars.

[Sccit]

A true racist is defined by their actions.  Yeah Hogan used some slurs, but nearly every black wrestler he has ever worked with came out and said he was nothing but the nicest guy, even helped many get started in the business.  Tiny Lister (Zeus) said Hogan treated him with nothing but respect, same thing with Mr. T.  So, you have a tape of him going on tirade saying some racial slurs.  And you have 40 years in the business with proof of him treating black people with respect, granting countless Make A Wishes, etc

So to me, I base it on actions, not words.  His actions are not the actions of a racist.

so you don't think not wanting your daughter to date a black person is a racist action?



genuinely curious.. i know the answer can go either way based on some cultures believing in maintaining race purity. but that's textbook definition of racist principles if we're being objective.

having "black friends" doesnt automatically mean someone isn't inherently racist

"i have black friends" is a lot of times a racist persons go to response to a racist action

i've been wrongfully accused of being racist a lot, so i'm not on the sensitive "cancel everyone!" end of the spectrum

i just think there's a clear cut difference between someone like eminem who gets accused of racism and hulk, who comes off as having inherently racist views that he held dear to his ideology

[TraceOneInfinite]

so you don't think not wanting your daughter to date a black person is a racist action?



genuinely curious.. i know the answer can go either way based on some cultures believing in maintaining race purity. but that's textbook definition of racist principles if we're being objective.

having "black friends" doesnt automatically mean someone isn't inherently racist

"i have black friends" is a lot of times a racist persons go to response to a racist action

i've been wrongfully accused of being racist a lot, so i'm not on the sensitive "cancel everyone!" end of the spectrum

i just think there's a clear cut difference between someone like eminem who gets accused of racism and hulk, who comes off as having inherently racist views that he held dear to his ideology

It’s a good debate question that you posed so let’s keep it right there.  Does not wanting your daughter to marry or bear children outside of her race make someone a racist?

As much as I love Hogan I would be lying if I didn’t admit that that fits the historical definition of “racist”.

But does it automatically make someone a bad person because they don’t want their daughter to date outside the race, no.  It does mean that in that specific case this person is showing evidence of racism, but it doesn’t automatically make them a bad person overall.  Like, we all have our bad qualities. 

Also, a person should be allowed such a preference.  Like, though it is kind of racist to say your daughter shouldn’t date outside her race, it’s still a person’s right to have such a preference.