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[Sccit]

It’s a good debate question that you posed so let’s keep it right there.  Does not wanting your daughter to marry or bear children outside of her race make someone a racist?

As much as I love Hogan I would be lying if I didn’t admit that that fits the historical definition of “racist”.

But does it automatically make someone a bad person because they don’t want their daughter to date outside the race, no.  It does mean that in that specific case this person is showing evidence of racism, but it doesn’t automatically make them a bad person overall.  Like, we all have our bad qualities. 

Also, a person should be allowed such a preference.  Like, though it is kind of racist to say your daughter shouldn’t date outside her race, it’s still a person’s right to have such a preference.

i'm glad you could be honest about that

i also don't think hogan was a bad person... i just think he was an all american redneck who was raised in the deep south during jim crowe, which made him inherently hold racist views

but in death, thats for God to judge .. the truth will always rise to the surface in the end

[HighEyeCue]

It was just anything to ramp up the fear.  So they had these major celebrities—Magic and Tommy Morrison who test positive and people were legit afraid to have sex around that time for fear of AIDS.  Well Magic isn’t the type to really investigate and take on the industry but Tommy did.  His wife has exposed so much.  They’ve never been able to find out where that one positive test supposedly came from—yet he had his whole life ruined over it.  He was scheduled to face Mike Tyson in like a 50 mill fight.

He’s always tested negative since, as has Magic Johnson.  But it’s so telling that people never knew that because the negative tests were never publicized—but the one time these guys supposedly tested positive it was front page news all over the media and my entire 6th grade had to meet in the gym for one of those big talks about HIV and AIDS when Magic tested positive.

Tommy also went around to all the thousands of women he slept with and none of them ever turned up sick from this supposedly deadly contagious spreading virus.  Same with Magic and Eazy E—if it’s so deadly and so contagious the obvious red flag 🚩 that shows the whole thing as a hoax for anyone that thinks critically is how come none of their wives and families turned up wit anything!

To me, it’s as simple as this.  Take Coward-19 for example.  A husband and wife both go to the clinic—one tests positive and the other one negative.  Forget all the other mountains of evidence—that’s all I need to know to know that something doesn’t add up.  You are sleeping with someone and can’t even pass to them this supposedly deadly contagion and yet everyone where masks and entire world on lockdown?!? 

Go ahead, laugh at the flat earther since you are all spinning at thousands of miles per hour swimming upside down on the bottom of your ball 🌍 floating in outer space pray to not get hit by your meteor ☄️ as you seek to see if there is alien 👽 life on Mars.

yeah man interesting thoughts...I agree with most of what you said 

the HIV situation has always been fishy...Eazy supposedly learned he had AIDS and then he dies shortly there after...but Magic tests positive in 1991 and looks as healthy as ever here in 2025

[TraceOneInfinite]

yeah man interesting thoughts...I agree with most of what you said 

the HIV situation has always been fishy...Eazy supposedly learned he had AIDS and then he dies shortly there after...but Magic tests positive in 1991 and looks as healthy as ever here in 2025

And ask the average Joe in the street.  Ask them, “how is Magic still healing as an Ox 🐂 in 2025.”  They will answer you, “oh it’s because he’s rich and has access to the best medicine 💊 and doctors.”

No, the guy is actually HIV negative.  He tests negative.  He doesn’t even have “it”.

They even admit publicly that HIV can not be found in his bloodstream and that regular tests can not detect it.  So they do these specialized antibody tests to try to still justify him as “living with HIV”.  But they admit that the antibody tests don’t actually test for the virus itself. 

So guess what can cause these anti-bodies to show up??  You guessed it!!  The vaxxx for HIV can produce these antibodies !!!!!

Yet none of this sounds fishy to anyone??  If you don’t believe me go ask ChatGPT or Google all the info I just posted and tell me it doesn’t sound suspicious.

[Soopafly DPGC]

so you don't think not wanting your daughter to date a black person is a racist action?



genuinely curious.. i know the answer can go either way based on some cultures believing in maintaining race purity. but that's textbook definition of racist principles if we're being objective.

having "black friends" doesnt automatically mean someone isn't inherently racist

"i have black friends" is a lot of times a racist persons go to response to a racist action

i've been wrongfully accused of being racist a lot, so i'm not on the sensitive "cancel everyone!" end of the spectrum

i just think there's a clear cut difference between someone like eminem who gets accused of racism and hulk, who comes off as having inherently racist views that he held dear to his ideology

I look at it more as was it something that was said in anger, or something that was truly meant?  You know when you get mad at your parents and say you hate them, but don't really mean it?  And to Infinite's point.  There are alot of people who don't want to marry outside their race because of all the challenges that go along with that, not necessarily because they hate a particular race. 

Again, you have a 40 year old track record of non-racist behavior vs. a 10 minute verbal angry tirade in which some derogatory slurs were said, but not acted upon in any way.  It's pretty cut and dry in my book.  Hogan was certainly in a position of power where he could easily call the shots and not work with black wrestlers, not have organizations sign black wrestlers, use his power to hold a particular race down, etc....and there's zero evidence of that, in fact there's evidence of the opposite.  So if Hogan was a racist, he wasn't a very good one as he helped the black race way more than hurt it. 

[Sccit]

I look at it more as was it something that was said in anger, or something that was truly meant?  You know when you get mad at your parents and say you hate them, but don't really mean it?  And to Infinite's point.  There are alot of people who don't want to marry outside their race because of all the challenges that go along with that, not necessarily because they hate a particular race. 

Again, you have a 40 year old track record of non-racist behavior vs. a 10 minute verbal angry tirade in which some derogatory slurs were said, but not acted upon in any way.  It's pretty cut and dry in my book.  Hogan was certainly in a position of power where he could easily call the shots and not work with black wrestlers, not have organizations sign black wrestlers, use his power to hold a particular race down, etc....and there's zero evidence of that, in fact there's evidence of the opposite.  So if Hogan was a racist, he wasn't a very good one as he helped the black race way more than hurt it.

so based on this ideology, if you associate with black people that means u can't be racist? because he was willing to wrestle other black wrestlers lol

i'm not saying he was some evil racist who wanted the black race to be eliminated

there's different types of racism

viewing black people as lesser than, even if you're willing to associate with them, is still racism

and what hogan did wasn't in a fit of rage.. he said himself in a very calm tone "am i racist? yea.. fucking niggers. i just don't want my daughter marrying a nigger. and if she were to marry a nigger, it should be a rich basketball nigger"

so yea.. add that to the fact that he's a redneck who grew up in georgia during jim crowe

and the safe bet is that while he's willing to associate with black people, he absolutely had some racist views

[Soopafly DPGC]

so based on this ideology, if you associate with black people that means u can't be racist? because he was willing to wrestle other black wrestlers lol

i'm not saying he was some evil racist who wanted the black race to be eliminated

there's different types of racism

viewing black people as lesser than, even if you're willing to associate with them, is still racism

and what hogan did wasn't in a fit of rage.. he said himself in a very calm tone "am i racist? yea.. fucking niggers. i just don't want my daughter marrying a nigger. and if she were to marry a nigger, it should be a rich basketball nigger"

so yea.. add that to the fact that he's a redneck who grew up in georgia during jim crowe

and the safe bet is that while he's willing to associate with black people, he absolutely had some racist views

Again, you're missing the point completely.  Associating with black people is different than treating them in a negative way.  As I said, the dude was the most powerful man in all of wrestling, he called all the shots in mid 80's WWF, then when he signed with WCW, he called all the shots there.  Then when he joined TNA, he called all the shots there.  Only in the WWE in the 2000's was when Hogan lost alot of his backstage power.  Listen to the interviews with many black wrestlers, Devon Dudley as the most recent, saying he owes his entire career to Hogan.  As i said, if Hogan was a racist, he was a very bad racist as many black wrestlers thrived and flourished under Hogan's watch. 

[Sccit]

Again, you're missing the point completely.  Associating with black people is different than treating them in a negative way.  As I said, the dude was the most powerful man in all of wrestling, he called all the shots in mid 80's WWF, then when he signed with WCW, he called all the shots there.  Then when he joined TNA, he called all the shots there.  Only in the WWE in the 2000's was when Hogan lost alot of his backstage power.  Listen to the interviews with many black wrestlers, Devon Dudley as the most recent, saying he owes his entire career to Hogan.  As i said, if Hogan was a racist, he was a very bad racist as many black wrestlers thrived and flourished under Hogan's watch.

a lot of pro jim crowe segregationists put on black jazz artists in the 30s and 40s... do u think that means they didn't hold racist views?

that's called a false equivalence

u can even like a race or be indifferent to them and still think they're inferior .. just because hulk put on black wrestlers doesn't mean he didn't inherently see them as inferior and dumber .. which is still racism

you think racism is black and white .. it's not. i know u really love hulk and u want him to think highly of black people. but his actions show that he saw black people as inferior .. no spin will change this

[TraceOneInfinite]

a lot of pro jim crowe segregationists put on black jazz artists in the 30s and 40s... do u think that means they didn't hold racist views?

that's called a false equivalence

u can even like a race or be indifferent to them and still think they're inferior .. just because hulk put on black wrestlers doesn't mean he didn't inherently see them as inferior and dumber .. which is still racism

you think racism is black and white .. it's not. i know u really love hulk and u want him to think highly of black people. but his actions show that he saw black people as inferior .. no spin will change this

Yeah but you’re pushing a pretty hard line Sccit.  I mean, I’m not saying that you ain’t kicking facts—because technically if you believe another race is inferior then that would by definition make you a racist.  And obviously you could think another race was inferior and still have friends in that race.

The problem is just that term is so loaded.  And once society has branded you a racist they can forget all your accomplishments, cancel you, and it’s as if you never did anything positive in your life.  They’ve done it to the Founding Fathers of America, and they’ve even done stuff like removed guys legacy from the MLB hall of fame on account of them allegedly being racist. 

And Hogan was removed for a period from the WWE for this racism issue.  But how you gonna remove Hogan from the WWE, Hogan IS the WWE.  Vince tied himself to Hogan and the company ran with Hogan from being small house shows in shithole town and territories like Kansas City to being a global phenomenon.

[Sccit]

Yeah but you’re pushing a pretty hard line Sccit.  I mean, I’m not saying that you ain’t kicking facts—because technically if you believe another race is inferior then that would by definition make you a racist.  And obviously you could think another race was inferior and still have friends in that race.

The problem is just that term is so loaded.  And once society has branded you a racist they can forget all your accomplishments, cancel you, and it’s as if you never did anything positive in your life.  They’ve done it to the Founding Fathers of America, and they’ve even done stuff like removed guys legacy from the MLB hall of fame on account of them allegedly being racist. 

And Hogan was removed for a period from the WWE for this racism issue.  But how you gonna remove Hogan from the WWE, Hogan IS the WWE.  Vince tied himself to Hogan and the company ran with Hogan from being small house shows in shithole town and territories like Kansas City to being a global phenomenon.

all good.. i'm just speaking facts, not feelings

i'm all for acknowledging people's greatness in passing, regardless of shortcomings

we're all flawed in one way or another

[Soopafly DPGC]

all good.. i'm just speaking facts, not feelings

i'm all for acknowledging people's greatness in passing, regardless of shortcomings

we're all flawed in one way or another

Well, i'm not changing your mind, but Hogan was the worst racist ever because so many black wrestlers flourished under Hogan, that's facts, not feelings.  Dennis Rodman was another black celebrity who came out recently saying how great of a man Hogan was, and he worked with Hogan for many years.  Again, terrible racist that Hogan was, he didn't understand what being a racist was all about apparently. 

So it's one of those things where 'if a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, does it make a sound?". 

Again, call him a racist if it makes you feel better (feelings), but his actions certainly did not reflect a racist's actions (facts).  Again, maybe he's just really bad at being a racist.  We'll have to go that route since you are adamant you are correct in your assessment. 

[Sccit]

Well, i'm not changing your mind, but Hogan was the worst racist ever because so many black wrestlers flourished under Hogan, that's facts, not feelings.  Dennis Rodman was another black celebrity who came out recently saying how great of a man Hogan was, and he worked with Hogan for many years.  Again, terrible racist that Hogan was, he didn't understand what being a racist was all about apparently. 

So it's one of those things where 'if a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, does it make a sound?". 

Again, call him a racist if it makes you feel better (feelings), but his actions certainly did not reflect a racist's actions (facts).  Again, maybe he's just really bad at being a racist.  We'll have to go that route since you are adamant you are correct in your assessment.

what is so hard for you to undersrand? you just love arguing, huh?

you can think someone is less than you based on race (this is still racism) and still help them flourish

you are not addressing what i'm saying .. you're just repeating the same argument that i already shot down

 

[Soopafly DPGC]

what is so hard for you to undersrand? you just love arguing, huh?

you can think someone is less than you based on race (this is still racism) and still help them flourish

you are not addressing what i'm saying .. you're just repeating the same argument that i already shot down

 

Cool, like i said, Hogan clearly helped the race flourish, FACTS.  What Hogan truly thought of a race, only he knows.  For you to come on here and say you know how Hogan FEELS, totally ridiculous.  Mr. "I deal in facts, not feelings".  You don't know Hogan's feelings.  No one does except him. 

[Sccit]

Cool, like i said, Hogan clearly helped the race flourish, FACTS.  What Hogan truly thought of a race, only he knows.  For you to come on here and say you know how Hogan FEELS, totally ridiculous.  Mr. "I deal in facts, not feelings".  You don't know Hogan's feelings.  No one does except him.

pretty sure he literally said what he thought, plain n simple

"i don't want my daughter dating a nigger.. it's a bad look. yes i'm
a little racist, fucking niggers"

you tryin too hard

[Soopafly DPGC]

pretty sure he literally said what he thought, plain n simple

"i don't want my daughter dating a nigger.. it's a bad look. yes i'm
a little racist, fucking niggers"

you tryin too hard

Again, you're dealing in FEELINGS, not FACTS.  FACTUALLY it is impossible to know how someone feels.  Very simple logic that you are having difficulty following.  You cannot make a FACTUAL statement about how someone FEELS.  Have you not watched any legal proceedings at all??  The witnesses are never allowed to say how someone feels, the judge always says 'don't tell me how they feel, tell me the facts'. 

[Sccit]

Again, you're dealing in FEELINGS, not FACTS.  FACTUALLY it is impossible to know how someone feels.  Very simple logic that you are having difficulty following.  You cannot make a FACTUAL statement about how someone FEELS.  Have you not watched any legal proceedings at all??  The witnesses are never allowed to say how someone feels, the judge always says 'don't tell me how they feel, tell me the facts'.

what feelings, dude? are u trolling me right now??

i'm telling u what he literally said word for word

so now taking his word on what he says is based on "feelings"??

ur losin it homie