Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…

[TraceOneInfinite]

On the strength of Doggy Siavash post I went back and listened to “Survive Another Day”.  I used to like that song and it’s not far from being a banger.   It just barely misses the mark, but still a good song.

Kurupt Verse:  Not bad, but not Dogg Food level either, just mid
Slip Capone Verse:  Slip wins the track.  Best verse. 
Gonzoe: Verse was wack and over-done, but his adlibs are okay, it’s like Nation of Islam cadence with the adlibs, like a preacher
Beat:  Solid
Chorus: Dope, perfect for the track

Overall - 6.5 out of 10 one of the keeper tracks for the album (def not filler)

[HighEyeCue]

On the strength of Doggy Siavash post I went back and listened to “Survive Another Day”.  I used to like that song and it’s not far from being a banger.   It just barely misses the mark, but still a good song.

Kurupt Verse:  Not bad, but not Dogg Food level either, just mid
Slip Capone Verse:  Slip wins the track.  Best verse. 
Gonzoe: Verse was wack and over-done, but his adlibs are okay, it’s like Nation of Islam cadence with the adlibs, like a preacher
Beat:  Solid
Chorus: Dope, perfect for the track

Overall - 6.5 out of 10 one of the keeper tracks for the album (def not filler)

interesting thing about that track for the longest I didn't really know that Battlecat produced it...I would ask sometimes on the forum and I would get DJ Muggs alot so I just went with it...years later I found out that Cat did it...It makes sense now, not to take anything away from Muggs who is dope in his own right but Cat is on another level

the album ends strong with "Thats Gangsta" followed by the 2 bonus tracks, this and "Ask Yourself A Question"

[TraceOneInfinite]

interesting thing about that track for the longest I didn't really know that Battlecat produced it...I would ask sometimes on the forum and I would get DJ Muggs alot so I just went with it...years later I found out that Cat did it...It makes sense now, not to take anything away from Muggs who is dope in his own right but Cat is on another level

the album ends strong with "Thats Gangsta" followed by the 2 bonus tracks, this and "Ask Yourself A Question"

yeah, you are on point as always,

I always felt the album ended very well.  With Warren G's joint, and then "Another Day" and then Dre's monster certified banger!   It would have looked so nice though on the album layout, and over all theme, they had 10 and 10.  So 10 tracks on West disc and 10 on East.  If the album had been delayed and they had cut 2 filler tracks from the WC cd and replaced them with tracks 11 and 12, that would have really changed the overall look of the album.  Get rid of that intro where you got to skip all the way to the track like on RRGB, what were they doing copying Bad Boy and Life After Death?  "Kick in the Door"?? etc

no intro
1.  "This Ones For U"
2.  "Make Some Noise"
3.  "Put That On Something"
4.  "Play My Cards"
5.  "We Can Freak It"
6.  "Freash"
7.  "C-Walk"
8.  "That's Gangsta"
9.  "Survive Another Day"
10. "Ask Yourself the Question"

That changes the overall look of the album if that's your West Coast disc! 

Battlecat was to Kuruption what Fred Wreck was to Space Boogie.  Battlecat was the go-to guy, and we all really took note when he had that nice cameo in "We Can Freak It" supplying Kurupt with just what he needed to set off the album. 

[HighEyeCue]

yeah, you are on point as always,

I always felt the album ended very well.  With Warren G's joint, and then "Another Day" and then Dre's monster certified banger!   It would have looked so nice though on the album layout, and over all theme, they had 10 and 10.  So 10 tracks on West disc and 10 on East.  If the album had been delayed and they had cut 2 filler tracks from the WC cd and replaced them with tracks 11 and 12, that would have really changed the overall look of the album.  Get rid of that intro where you got to skip all the way to the track like on RRGB, what were they doing copying Bad Boy and Life After Death?  "Kick in the Door"?? etc

no intro
1.  "This Ones For U"
2.  "Make Some Noise"
3.  "Put That On Something"
4.  "Play My Cards"
5.  "We Can Freak It"
6.  "Freash"
7.  "C-Walk"
8.  "That's Gangsta"
9.  "Survive Another Day"
10. "Ask Yourself the Question"

That changes the overall look of the album if that's your West Coast disc! 

Battlecat was to Kuruption what Fred Wreck was to Space Boogie.  Battlecat was the go-to guy, and we all really took note when he had that nice cameo in "We Can Freak It" supplying Kurupt with just what he needed to set off the album.

yeah the 2 songs I would have left out are the ones you did as well

the OG "Ho's A Housewife"...the credits say Kurupt produced this but I don't know

"Cant Let That Slide" - a song dissing Nas that went sideways...had the chance to be classic if Kurupt was on his A game

he did have that one line "You little chipped tooth muthafucka, you about to get slapped, like a muthafuckin bitch for that"

[TraceOneInfinite]

yeah the 2 songs I would have left out are the ones you did as well

the OG "Ho's A Housewife"...the credits say Kurupt produced this but I don't know

"Cant Let That Slide" - a song dissing Nas that went sideways...had the chance to be classic if Kurupt was on his A game

he did have that one line "You little chipped tooth muthafucka, you about to get slapped, like a muthafuckin bitch for that"

Can you imagine all these years and I’m supposed to know everything about Kurupt and Nas my favorite East Coast rapper and I’m just now finding this out.  Going to have to re-listen to that track again today.

Also, imagine if the West disc was beefed up with the Dre updated version of “Hos a Housewife” which eventually ended up on Kurupt’s Sophmore LP—but again shows how close Kurupt was to having a platinum, classic debut

[HighEyeCue]

Can you imagine all these years and I’m supposed to know everything about Kurupt and Nas my favorite East Coast rapper and I’m just now finding this out.  Going to have to re-listen to that track again today.

Also, imagine if the West disc was beefed up with the Dre updated version of “Hos a Housewife” which eventually ended up on Kurupt’s Sophmore LP—but again shows how close Kurupt was to having a platinum, classic debut

yeah Nas was quoted in Vibe around the time The Firm album came out in ‘97 that he thought Kurupt wasn’t good for Foxy because he was a “thug”…Kurupt then responded with the subsequent diss track…Nas to my knowledge never addressed it however

[TraceOneInfinite]

yeah Nas was quoted in Vibe around the time The Firm album came out in ‘97 that he thought Kurupt wasn’t good for Foxy because he was a “thug”…Kurupt then responded with the subsequent diss track…Nas to my knowledge never addressed it however

Listened again.. certainly gives a bump in stature to the track and to the album now that I caught the Nas diss

[HighEyeCue]

Listened again.. certainly gives a bump in stature to the track and to the album now that I caught the Nas diss

I think its pretty safe to say then that the only thing missing from the West disc being classic is the "Ho's A Housewife" remix which interestingly enough was on the "Ask Yourself A Question" CD single

https://www.discogs.com/master/125785-Kurupt-Ask-Yourself-A-Question-Hos-A-Housewife-Remix

[TraceOneInfinite]

I think its pretty safe to say then that the only thing missing from the West disc being classic is the "Ho's A Housewife" remix which interestingly enough was on the "Ask Yourself A Question" CD single

https://www.discogs.com/master/125785-Kurupt-Ask-Yourself-A-Question-Hos-A-Housewife-Remix

Great find.  Homie I got to give you major props.  I thought I was the expert on the Kuruption!! album since it was pretty much all I thought about for months until it was released, and about all I listened to (along with Bad Azz Word on the Streetz) in the months after it was released.

But you have gotten me twice in succession.  First, the revelation of a Nas diss being on the album.  Second, this revelation of "Hoes a Housewife" being on the "Ask Yourself A Question" single.

In some ways it doesn't surprise me, because everyone always wants to work with Dre, and Kurupt had the connection from Death Row to Dre, but Dre had sort of distanced himself from the Death Row guys during the Aftermath, Firm, and Bullworth period.  But then, he started calling them again, so last minute, as Kurupt is already set to release Kuruption!! Dre calls him to come put in a bit of work for Dre's second album. 

And during those sessions they record "Hoes A Housewife"—so now it becomes a favor for a favor situation.  So Kurupt gets "Ask Yourself A Question" for his album, but Dre's always late and slow so it didn't make the liner notes and tracklist.

So that part makes sense^^.  The part that doesn't make sense is how did we not hear "Hoes a Housewife" remix until Dre's second album?  Because this means it was floating around as early as late 98 or early 99 and should have been on all those original West Coast Rap Websites like Dre Day and Snoop'sDogghouse.  Do you remember hearing it a long time before Dre's second album was released in November 1999?

Btw, I have to keep saying "Dre's Second Album" because calling it 2001 is confusing because it was released in 1999.  Seriously the worst album title ever.

[Sccit]

Great find.  Homie I got to give you major props.  I thought I was the expert on the Kuruption!! album since it was pretty much all I thought about for months until it was released, and about all I listened to (along with Bad Azz Word on the Streetz) in the months after it was released.

But you have gotten twice in succession.  First, the revelation of a Nas diss being on the album.  Second, this revelation of "Hoes a Housewife" being on the "Ask Yourself A Question" single.

In some ways it doesn't surprise me, because everyone always wants to work with Dre, and Kurupt had the connection from Death Row to Dre, but Dre had sort of distanced himself from the Death Row guys during the Aftermath, Firm, and Bullworth period.  But then, he started calling them again, so last minute, as Kurupt is already set to release Kuruption!! Dre calls him to come put in a bit of work for Dre's second album. 

And during those sessions they record "Hoes A Housewife"—so now it becomes a favor for a favor situation.  So Kurupt gets "Ask Yourself A Question" for his album, but Dre's always late and slow so it didn't make the liner notes and tracklist.

So that part makes sense^^.  The part that doesn't make sense is how did we not hear "Hoes a Housewife" remix until Dre's second album?  Because this means it was floating around as early as late 98 or early 99 and should have been on all those original West Coast Rap Websites like Dre Day and Snoop'sDogghouse.  Do you remember hearing it a long time before Dre's second album was released in November 1999?

Btw, I have to keep saying "Dre's Second Album" because calling it 2001 is confusing because it was released in 1999.  Seriously the worst album title ever.

it's supposed to be "the chronic 2001"

the album was originally to be titled "the chronic 2000" but suge got a wind of that and beat him to the punch

classic suge rolling

so dre went and called his "the chronic 2001" .. which was later shortened to "2001"

[Duck Duck Doggy]

Great find.  Homie I got to give you major props.  I thought I was the expert on the Kuruption!! album since it was pretty much all I thought about for months until it was released, and about all I listened to (along with Bad Azz Word on the Streetz) in the months after it was released.

But you have gotten twice in succession.  First, the revelation of a Nas diss being on the album.  Second, this revelation of "Hoes a Housewife" being on the "Ask Yourself A Question" single.

In some ways it doesn't surprise me, because everyone always wants to work with Dre, and Kurupt had the connection from Death Row to Dre, but Dre had sort of distanced himself from the Death Row guys during the Aftermath, Firm, and Bullworth period.  But then, he started calling them again, so last minute, as Kurupt is already set to release Kuruption!! Dre calls him to come put in a bit of work for Dre's second album. 

And during those sessions they record "Hoes A Housewife"—so now it becomes a favor for a favor situation.  So Kurupt gets "Ask Yourself A Question" for his album, but Dre's always late and slow so it didn't make the liner notes and tracklist.

So that part makes sense^^.  The part that doesn't make sense is how did we not hear "Hoes a Housewife" remix until Dre's second album?  Because this means it was floating around as early as late 98 or early 99 and should have been on all those original West Coast Rap Websites like Dre Day and Snoop'sDogghouse.  Do you remember hearing it a long time before Dre's second album was released in November 1999?

Btw, I have to keep saying "Dre's Second Album" because calling it 2001 is confusing because it was released in 1999.  Seriously the worst album title ever.

I’m gonna have to disagree with you here. 2001 was a sick ass title on many different levels. As you said it was released in 99 so already we have this theme that it’s music from the future. Music ahead of its time. Then you have the connection to the Kubrick movie 2001 a space odyssey and with all the futuristic space like sounds Dre was using then it really worked I thought. And the fact that this was the album that changed the sound of hip hop again and the best mixed and mastered album ever only added to it.

So yeah. Not worst album title ever. Not even close.

[HighEyeCue]

Great find.  Homie I got to give you major props.  I thought I was the expert on the Kuruption!! album since it was pretty much all I thought about for months until it was released, and about all I listened to (along with Bad Azz Word on the Streetz) in the months after it was released.

But you have gotten twice in succession.  First, the revelation of a Nas diss being on the album.  Second, this revelation of "Hoes a Housewife" being on the "Ask Yourself A Question" single.

In some ways it doesn't surprise me, because everyone always wants to work with Dre, and Kurupt had the connection from Death Row to Dre, but Dre had sort of distanced himself from the Death Row guys during the Aftermath, Firm, and Bullworth period.  But then, he started calling them again, so last minute, as Kurupt is already set to release Kuruption!! Dre calls him to come put in a bit of work for Dre's second album. 

And during those sessions they record "Hoes A Housewife"—so now it becomes a favor for a favor situation.  So Kurupt gets "Ask Yourself A Question" for his album, but Dre's always late and slow so it didn't make the liner notes and tracklist.

So that part makes sense^^.  The part that doesn't make sense is how did we not hear "Hoes a Housewife" remix until Dre's second album?  Because this means it was floating around as early as late 98 or early 99 and should have been on all those original West Coast Rap Websites like Dre Day and Snoop'sDogghouse.  Do you remember hearing it a long time before Dre's second album was released in November 1999?

Btw, I have to keep saying "Dre's Second Album" because calling it 2001 is confusing because it was released in 1999.  Seriously the worst album title ever.

I don't remember hearing the remix until both Dre's and Kurupts albums dropped that same day...I remember the date too, November 16, 1999 lol

I never heard it floating around on the sites either, although I was not really that savvy in finding music that was leaked back then

[TraceOneInfinite]

it's supposed to be "the chronic 2001"

the album was originally to be titled "the chronic 2000" but suge got a wind of that and beat him to the punch

classic suge rolling

so dre went and called his "the chronic 2001" .. which was later shortened to "2001"

Yeah, which is horrible album title.  "2001".   Try using that in a conversation it will automatically cause confusion.

 "I like the 2001 tracks"

"Oh cool, yeah, that was a good year in music, Eastsidaz Dueces and Treys and Nas Stillmatic."

"No, I'm talking about the album "2001" by Dr. Dre."

"Dre didn't release an album in 2001"

...it almost becomes like Abbot and Costello bit "who's on first"

[TraceOneInfinite]

I’m gonna have to disagree with you here. 2001 was a sick ass title on many different levels. As you said it was released in 99 so already we have this theme that it’s music from the future. Music ahead of its time. Then you have the connection to the Kubrick movie 2001 a space odyssey and with all the futuristic space like sounds Dre was using then it really worked I thought. And the fact that this was the album that changed the sound of hip hop again and the best mixed and mastered album ever only added to it.

So yeah. Not worst album title ever. Not even close.

but that's you coming up with all those creative defenses for the album title, but yet Dre, to my knowledge, has never said those things.  I'm not saying it's not true, I'm just saying, Dre never said all that.  So he didn't even care enough to speak on it.

[Duck Duck Doggy]

Yeah, which is horrible album title.  "2001".   Try using that in a conversation it will automatically cause confusion.

 "I like the 2001 tracks"

"Oh cool, yeah, that was a good year in music, Eastsidaz Dueces and Treys and Nas Stillmatic."

"No, I'm talking about the album "2001" by Dr. Dre."

"Dre didn't release an album in 2001"

...it almost becomes like Abbot and Costello bit "who's on first"

Said no one ever. 2001 is an iconic album. Everyone knows what 2001 is. Anyone who doesn’t know is a goofy nerd or ignorant asshole